#dev 2018-03-22

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swentel morning all
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cweiske dgold, I see you offer atom feeds. I use /stapibas to automatically send out webmentions to all links in my atom feeds. shall I add your feed, too?
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cweiske jeremycherfas, do you offer a feed on your main page? I didn't find one
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cweiske (apart from microformats)
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jeremycherfas At jeremycherfas.net? Not for the index page, no. For the blog, yes. feed:https://www.jeremycherfas.net/blog.rss and feed:https://www.jeremycherfas.net/atom.rss
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cweiske ah. https://www.jeremycherfas.net/blog.atom
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jeremycherfas I should probably add one to /reviews as well
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cweiske could you make the atom and rss links machine discoverable?
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cweiske https://indieweb.org/Atom#Autodiscovery
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Loqi totally
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cweiske jeremycherfas, I could also add your blog's atom feed to my stapibas instance, so that webmentions get sent out automatically
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jeremycherfas Aren't they already? I can do that quite easily, yes.
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cweiske they are in the sidebar
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cweiske but feed readers cannot discover that they link to the feeds
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cweiske because no rel attribute
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jeremycherfas Best to put it in the HEAD, or add the rel attribute?
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cweiske I know that all readers support head links. no idea about normal <a> with rels
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jeremycherfas Cool. Into the head it will go.
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jeremycherfas I could probably add it to the HEAD of index too if I think about it.
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cweiske yes
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sknebel What is stapibas?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/stapibas
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jeremycherfas Does it matter that my feed ends .atom and .rss rather than .xml?
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cweiske file extension does not matter. it only matters that it is atom
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jeremycherfas Thanks
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sknebel cweiske++
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jeremycherfas Done. cweiske would you mind checking everything works as you expect?
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cweiske https://www.jeremycherfas.net/ has "feed:https..."
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Loqi Jeremy Cherfas
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cweiske that feed: is not necessary
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cweiske and even invalid
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jeremycherfas Aaargh.
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cweiske and the & in "&c" should be escaped
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cweiske as &amp;
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cweiske "Books &c"
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jeremycherfas Badly copied and pasted. My bad.
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jeremycherfas Try again please
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cweiske what does "Books & Atom Feed" mean?
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cweiske "Books &"?
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cweiske should that be "Book reviews Atom Feed"?
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cweiske and your atom feeds have <author><name>John Appleseed in them
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jeremycherfas What the? That is weird. See, you fix one thing and another pops up. Its whack-a-mole.
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jeremycherfas Book & should be Books &c -- that is, books and other reading related things.
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cweiske and remove the "Atom Feed" and "RSS Feed"
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cweiske the title is for users, and they should not care about the format
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jeremycherfas From the Titles?
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dgold cweiske: oh wow - thank you!
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cweiske jeremycherfas, yes from the titles
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jeremycherfas I guess the Atom feed is picking up authorname from somewhere strange, and I think I know where.
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cweiske dgold, I've added you. it will start pinging in a couple of minutes.
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cweiske oh. it pings.
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cweiske it tried to ping 53 urls
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jeremycherfas Should be good to go now. Fingers crossed.
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cweiske :) all fine
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cweiske dgold, http://cweiske.de/stapibas/
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cweiske there is a bookmarklet that you can use to view the mention status of your posts
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cweiske visit a post, and then invoke the bookmarklet.
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jeremycherfas About stapibas: when I put a url into Telegraph, it shows that it could send webmentions to things like tag pages and category pages. I never want to do that, so I don't send the webmention. Would stapibas send those automatically?
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cweiske stapibas only looks at the links inside of h-entry
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dgold I may have to look at my h-entry markup, but I _think_ i'm good
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jeremycherfas I'd better check mine too. By extension, you are saying that Telegraph looks at everything for links.
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cweiske dgold, https://ascraeus.org/micro/1521657862/
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Loqi [Daniel Goldsmith] I agree that this time feels different, but the truth is that as we have become more compartmentalised Facebook has become the touchstone of community, of belonging. People move to new places and Facebook is where they meet their neighbours. The effe...
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cweiske the bookmarklet works there
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cweiske shows that it still tries to ping colinwalker
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cweiske http://fotos.cweiske.de/screenshots/2018/2018-03-22%20stapibas%20pinging.png
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cweiske ah
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cweiske stapibas ONLY pings links inside h-entry and then e-content
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cweiske so it requires those two classes.
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cweiske that makes it very safe
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cweiske unless you put category links inside e-content, which you should not do.
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jeremycherfas Those links I was talking about appear to be inside h-entry, in the "html" of "content"
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jeremycherfas https://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https://www.jeremycherfas.net/blog/a-user-considers
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Loqi [Jeremy Cherfas] A user considers
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jeremycherfas Thank you so much for your pointers cweiske++
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jeremycherfas Tidying up now
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jeremycherfas Cweiske++
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dgold cweiske++
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dgold if its working inside that to try to ping colinwalker's site, then all is well :)
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jeremycherfas Very interesting. Prodded by cweiske, I've had a much closer look at my Grav theme, and it is clear that I can make the mark-up much more logical. But that's also a bigger task than I am ready for today. Still, it creates a significant itch.
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cweiske wow. a perl-based microblog; https://publog.stuifzandapp.com/posts/244
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Loqi Peter Stuifzand
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petermolnar perl 5 with moo/moose is surprisingly efficient, although still hm... interesting to read.
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dgold just realised my aperture doesn't have the [Notifications] Channel, per the spec
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cweiske dgold, there is a catch currently. you have to tell stapibas that it should update your feed manually.
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cweiske curl https://cweiske.de/stapibas/request-feed-update.php?url=https://ascraeus.org/index.xml
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cweiske err
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cweiske wrong
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cweiske correct:
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cweiske curl -XPOST --data url=https://ascraeus.org/index.xml https://cweiske.de/stapibas/request-feed-update.php
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cweiske I have a script on my server that triggers this when a new blog post is rendered
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dgold I can write that as a cronjob, I reckon
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dgold or incron in my case
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cweiske how do you post to your blog?
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cweiske ah, incron would do
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cweiske yes
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dgold micropub->nanopub->content entry; incron notices the new file has been written and 'released', this triggers a rebuild
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cweiske yes, than this trigger should also do that curl call
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dgold but the script for that can be changed to do a curl `ping`
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dgold <snap>
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Zegnat I think I am getting the hang of this TDD. mf2 parsing problem? Write a failing test. Fix it. Commit.
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[kevinmarks] that's the way
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[kevinmarks] now what I really want is common tests for all parsers, but the existing ones are a bit of a mess
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cweiske do you mean https://github.com/microformats/tests ?
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Loqi [microformats] tests: Microformats test suite
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Zegnat Yeah, those are a little hit’n’miss cweiske
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cweiske I'm also planning to implement a mf2 parser, so having that test suite in a good state would be very helpful
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[kevinmarks] what language are you targetting?
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sknebel Zegnat: good start would be submitting all tests you add/propose for other parsers also to the central repo
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cweiske php
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sknebel what's the problem with the existing one?
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cweiske NIH
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sknebel (I assume you are not just doing it for "I have nothing else to do" ;))
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cweiske independence
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Zegnat may or may not also have half an alternative PHP parser because of NIH
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Zegnat Also because I didn’t want the xpath logic used by the current one, and instead wanted to see if it was possible in a single complete tree walk
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cweiske ah, sax-style?
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Zegnat does not know sax-style vs other styles
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Zegnat I’d say DOM style. That is, you give the parser a DOMDocument, and it walks it using only standard DOM methods to get the microformats out
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cweiske https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_API_for_XML
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Zegnat Ah, no, my microformats parser works on a DOM tree. Not event based off of a parser walking the raw HTML
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@jobsonnentag @andrea @Blot__ @kevinmarks @desparoz Hey Andrea. Here’s a whole template for single entries, so you can see it in context (if you need) - https://cl.ly/2d1e091d380M. Are you using http://webmention.io? I don’t think what he wrote for me will work without using that. (twitter.com/_/status/976810100244480001)
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Zegnat I love error messages like these: https://i.imgur.com/yp1gHLu.png </sarcasm>
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swentel hehehe
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Zegnat I wonder if I could make php-mf2 run through the centralised tests using PHPUnit
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cweiske there'd be people in here giving you karma for that
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Zegnat It can already run the tests through its own little script: https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/blob/master/tests/test-suite/test-suite.php
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Zegnat But I would prefer PHPUnit’s output
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Zegnat brushes up on data providers
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cweiske yieldy yield
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Zegnat reads https://phpunit.de/manual/5.7/en/writing-tests-for-phpunit.html#writing-tests-for-phpunit.data-providers
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Zegnat Oh, wait, we are on PHPUnit 4. I need even older documentation, possibly
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cweiske shouldn't have changed much
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Zegnat Alright, I’ll try with this documentation in hand first
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Zegnat Tests: 342, Assertions: 713, Failures: 68.
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Zegnat Lets see if that improves when I stop doing string comparisons of the resulting JSON and do an actual proper comparison of JSON objects.
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sknebel With the recent changes theres going to be a bunch of actual defects
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Zegnat That’s fine, as long as I know the failures aren’t caused by my checking code. Then I can start filing fixes to the centralised tests
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skippy when one uses Quill to micropub a note with a photo, the photo is an element in the array the gets posted. How do folks reference said photos in the body of the posts they are composing?
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skippy also, woah, just saw that quill supports post-by-email? that's slick.
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Zegnat Tests: 342, Assertions: 1127, Failures: 38.
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Zegnat Almost halved the amount of failing tests already :D
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snarfed testing++
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Loqi snarfed: [eddie] left you a message 18 hours, 47 minutes ago: aaronpk Something is off between Bridgy and Webmention.io. Not sure which end it’s on… I kind of think Bridgy might be sending the webmention BEFORE the photo is uploaded? Here is the current microformats of the bridgy page: http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbrid-gy.appspot.com%2Fcomment%2Ftwitter%2FEddieHinkle%2F976504920663887872%2F976505142651555842 and here is the webmention.io parsing:
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Loqi snarfed: [eddie] left you a message 18 hours, 47 minutes ago: aaronpk here is the webmention.io parsing: https://webmention.io/api/mentions?target=https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/03/21/8/reply/ in the past when I’ve seen this and resent the webmention it has become fixed, so I think it’s a timing thing
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Zegnat I just have to be careful. Because I am currently fixing tests by tweaking how the tests run ...
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KartikPrabhu testing++ now that I understand how to do it ;)
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KartikPrabhu spaces--
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KartikPrabhu testing++ now that I understand how to do it ;)
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snarfed KartikPrabhu++
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Zegnat https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/pull/163 testint ftw
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Loqi [Zegnat] #163 Run mf2/tests test suite with PHPUnit during default testing
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Zegnat If the improved rel parsing PR gets merged in it actually fixes 1 of the test suite tests. Nice to have this working
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Zegnat Does anyone here know where https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/tree/master/tests/test-suite/test-suite-data is coming from? And whether those tests should also be done?
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sknebel Is that just an old copy of the suite?
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KartikPrabhu yeah i think they are an old copy
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sknebel At least that's what the commit addibg it sounds like
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KartikPrabhu also the tests don't test for specific things so they are not very useful (atleast for me)
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KartikPrabhu vocab-specific tests make sense for mf1 but not so much for mf2
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sknebel Yes, sounded like we have green light to change that tho
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KartikPrabhu sknebel: how would one change that if one is matching the dictionaries directly
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KartikPrabhu for mf2py in the tests I only check specifically what I want to test (for instance deduplication and ordering of classes)
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KartikPrabhu in that test I ignore everything else
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KartikPrabhu so I know exactly what is failing
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sknebel Sure, can't do that. But we can structure the suite in a more feature-oriented way
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KartikPrabhu sknebel: aah ok yes
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KartikPrabhu also a direct dictionary comparision will always fail now since both php-mf2 and mf2py add a "debug" dictionary :P
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sknebel Sure, that has to be stripped
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Zegnat Oh, hmm, I do not account for that one in my test suite tester. Good call
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Zegnat makes note
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Zegnat And yeah, while we can’t test specific items in the objects in a general input-output test, you can make the input as minimal as possible
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[kevinmarks] both kinds of tests make sense - small synthetic example mf2 markup to test specific parsing issues, and bigger examples from the wild to be more like an integration test
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Zegnat Agreed [kevinmarks]. But I think some of the “bigger” tests in the current suite aren’t taken from the wild either...
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KartikPrabhu yup ^
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[eddie] !tell skippy oops that was three, not two :)
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[eddie] !tell skippy: There are two different things. A photo post (like Instagram style) where the photo is separate from the content. That is where a note is posted with a photos array. An article with a featured image has a featured array so the image is known to be supplementary to the post. Finally, there are embedded photos, which requires an article posted in JSON format with a content.html property that puts img tags in the correct placement in
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@andrea @jobsonnentag @Blot__ @kevinmarks @desparoz Thank you! Yes, I am using http://webmention.io. I will try this out asap. :) (twitter.com/_/status/976849371026350082)
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@jobsonnentag @andrea @Blot__ @kevinmarks @desparoz Whoop whoop! It’s totally gonna work! Also, http://checkmention.appspot.com is a great way to test that it’s working. In case you didn’t previously have any webmentions... like me 😉 (twitter.com/_/status/976850826084913153)
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skippy thanks [eddie]
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Loqi skippy: [eddie] left you a message 20 minutes ago: There are two different things. A photo post (like Instagram style) where the photo is separate from the content. That is where a note is posted with a photos array. An article with a featured image has a featured array so the image is known to be supplementary to the post. Finally, there are embedded photos, which requires an article posted in JSON format with a content.html property that puts img tags in the correct placement in
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Loqi skippy: [eddie] left you a message 20 minutes ago: oops that was three, not two :)
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skippy i'm trying to wrap my head around how quill will work. if i write a long post, and supply an image, how do i get to control where that image is displayed within my post? say I want some opening text, then the image, then more text. How do I reference the image in the post when I compose in Quill?
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[eddie] You would want to do that in the "Article" view in Quill. In that view, there is a plus icon on the left of the posting view. Wherever you press the + button, it will add the photo
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[eddie] Then Quill sends a JSON micropub request with the <img> embedded
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skippy i see. thank you!
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[eddie] So you would enter your text, click on the image button on the left, upload the image, then enter more text. It will send html that contains that same order
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[eddie] My pleasure :)
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[eddie] The article view of Quill works really great
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skippy i'm still futzing with modifying nanopub to my own needs; and weighing all that effort with trying to set up Known instead.
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[eddie] ohhh okay. nanopub, does that mean you use Jekyll or Hugo?
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skippy Hugo, currently.
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skippy though I haven't posted anything in almost a year. *sigh*
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[eddie] ahh okay. One issue I had with the Quill Article thing is Jekyll uses Markdown, so I have to convert HTML to Markdown for my post
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skippy Hugo accepts whatever i give it. HTML and MD. So that ought not be a huge problem.
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[eddie] Ah you're solid then
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[eddie] I ran into issues with html -> markdown with images embedded so I always have to manually tweak that when I do it
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[eddie] So if it accepts html you're in the clear
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skippy but I have two different sites, with different posting requirements. Trying to determine if a one-size-fits-all micropub widget works, or if i take on the burden of maintaining separate micropub endpoints for these.
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[eddie] Ohhhh yeah that's tricky
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skippy it's all so fiddly; but i'm fussy enough to rail against the constraints of canned solutions like WP or Known.... I don't want a ton of cruft CSS or JS sent across the wire when none of my sites need any of that.
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[eddie] Yeah, I know what you mean. I just can't do WP anymore (no offense GWG 😉)
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skippy it takes 25 lines of custom functions.php content in a theme to strip out all the junk that WP embeds by default. Too much.
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[tantek] Wow. Is this junk in the head?
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skippy yes
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skippy [tantek]: https://gist.github.com/skpy/b48f6e0b437e62b3ee56db4c8d444fde#gistcomment-2389127
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skippy can i get an easy-to-read human-readable list of all the fields that Quill HTTP POSTs to a micropub endpoint for the editor and notes?
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skippy parsing the code is a little tedious for me, this AM.
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Zegnat Does it send POST fields from the editor? Not just a single JSON body?
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skippy let me rephrase: can I get a human readable display of what it posts?
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skippy if no such list is readily available, I can capture it from a test endpoint; but seems like something that should be documented somehwere?
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[eddie] Yeah, I can get that for you pretty easily
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skippy (tanks) [eddie] !
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Zegnat The output on sink wasn’t clear enough? https://sink.zegnat.net/126KjmcsMWLxnDkkMLkCXsdGqvR
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[eddie] Haha, that’s what I was just doing Zegnat 😉
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Loqi awesome
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[eddie] https://sink.zegnat.net/12Bo37OSmT03DzcRF6vC0sqhEds
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Zegnat :P
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skippy thanks. but you're parsing the json, right? that's not raw, because sink escaped the content.
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[eddie] ohhhh
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skippy oooh, base64 encoded image?
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[eddie] Yep, that’s how it sends the image from quill
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[eddie] That said, other clients might send it as a URL from a media endpoint
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[eddie] Oh, in fact, Quill *might* send a url if you have a media endpoint
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[eddie] because sink doesn’t have one
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[eddie] For what it’s worth, here is a note version from sink: https://sink.zegnat.net/12BoCraNl1dpTTU00dfvkECyT1n
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[eddie] I don’t think the raw, unescaped content is documented anywhere
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Zegnat Ah. No. Sink does a little bit of stuff. E.g. when it gets a JSON body it will make sure it didn’t contain your authentication (strip it if possible) and re-render it through PHP’s json_encode with pretty printing
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skippy ok. So the Quill "editor" and "note" links both send h-entry. And I see the format. Thanks Zegnat !
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skippy https://github.com/dg01d/nanopub/blob/master/nanopub.php#L320 this bit in nanopub is looking for "h" as a posted param, but i dont see that in sink's ouptut.
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sknebel "h": "entry",
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[eddie] Ohhh that is looking at form-urlencoded
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skippy but it's not clear to me if that's matching, or if it's falling through to the json_decode(file_get_contents('php://input'), true);
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sknebel micropub has both a form-encoded and a JSON part
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aaronpk skippy: you might want to test with https://micropub.rocks since it will show you the fields it sends before it makes the request and has a bunch of different combinations of properties that you'll encounter
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sknebel nanopub tries to take formencoded and turns it into the same structure as the JSON would be, or if there is no form-encoded it parses it as JSON
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aaronpk that will make sure you don't accidentally hard-code this to only work with Quill :)
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Zegnat form-urlencoded gets crudely converted into JSON by Sink. It should show the h property
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Zegnat shpub is another option that can show you the full curl command before it even sends it
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Zegnat What is shpub?
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Loqi shpub is a command line micropub client written by Christian Weiske https://indieweb.org/shpub
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[eddie] I don’t know why I didn’t think to recommend mp.rocks that will definitely help
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[eddie] Because it has two different tests, one for urlencoded and one for json
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[eddie] (well more than that, but it includes both of those tests)
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skippy oh, I see. I didnt realize that it was two different submission formats. That explains things. Thank you.
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aaronpk yep either mf2 JSON or the simpler form-encoded format. you won't get HTML posted at you in the form-encoded version.
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swentel aaronpk, did you find a moment to checkout the gateway problem on aperture?
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dgold oh, yes, aaronpk: My aperture was done at an early stage in your breakneck development cycle. It doesn't have a Notifications Channel
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dgold can I trivially fix that, or should I start all over again?
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[eddie] dgold: Should be pretty simple. We just have to add an SQL insert into the channels table for that
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[eddie] I’ll peek at the channels table real quick
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[eddie] dgold: You are the only user in your Aperture instance, correct?
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dgold [eddie]: that I am!
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dgold o sole mio
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Zegnat Hm, it wasn’t added in a migration?
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[eddie] :thumbsup: Just wanted to make sure your user id was 1, which it will be if it’s only you 🙂
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[eddie] Zegnat: It’s added when a user is created, but dgold and I didn’t use the create user script
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Zegnat Gotcha
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[eddie] dgold: Here’s the SQL script: https://gist.github.com/EdwardHinkle/f604e3159aa6f2ff6d5233e2725a25d1
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[eddie] You’ll just need to replace {database_name} with the name of the database that holds your aperture data
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dgold thanken eddie
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dgold (again)
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[eddie] My pleasure 🙂
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dgold just need to remember my mysql password. lol
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[eddie] lol i always look at my settings file on my server
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dgold i am loving monocle
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sebsel is slowly chipping away at a rebuild of his site
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sebsel Trying to get a basic working version out soon, so I can do an XXdaysOfIndieWeb :P
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sebsel In which XX <= 30
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sknebel oh, what are you switching to?
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sebsel Laravel, since I work with that every day now and I want to practice outside of work too :) Kirby was nice, but I kept hitting walls and bugs.
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cweiske is there some ready-made javascript that a not-very-technical user can copy&paste to render webmention.io data for a blog post?
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cweiske webmention.io gives that for the streaming api, but not for the "normal" fetching
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Zegnat Didn’t voxpelli’s webmention endpoint have some easy to copy-paste embedding code?
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cweiske (0 of 150 accounts left at the moment – more will be released as development goes on)
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cweiske https://webmention.herokuapp.com/
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Loqi A WebMention Endpoint
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Zegnat Ah
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aaronpk i should just write that up
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Loqi totally
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aaronpk wow i really broke something with aperture's paging mechanism in that last update
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aaronpk back to the drawing board on that i think
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swentel heh, paging is hard
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cweiske turns out that css grid is awesome. no floats anymore
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cweiske or negative margins
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tantek yes
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cweiske I always thought "u-" to define the data type as URL
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tantek cweiske: that's a common misconception of the mf2 prefixes. the prefixes are for parsing differences
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cweiske but the rule that u-comment requires to look for an u-url inside looks strange
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tantek and yes those parsing differences are adapted from authoring use which often happens differently for different properties on different elements
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tantek it's part of how property nested microformats objects are handled
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tantek e.g. on something with class="u-comment h-cite"
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cweiske Zegnat++ for the mf2 test suite patch
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Loqi zegnat has 50 karma in this channel (186 overall)
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cweiske https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/pull/163
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Loqi [Zegnat] #163 Run mf2/tests test suite with PHPUnit during default testing
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gregorlove.com edited /Facebook (+896) "/* Criticism */ Changed emails to @facebook.com" (view diff)
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@kaushalmodi Learning about Webmentions (https://indieweb.org/Webmention).. figured out how to add rel="me" links to my site.. but really confused with what's next.. what do I do next so that Webmentions can completely replace the Disqus based commenting for my blog? (twitter.com/_/status/976946679504130050)
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@ChrisAldrich @kaushalmodi I know that @_dgoldsmith has gotten Webmention working with Hugo before, presuming that's what you're building on top of. https://chat.indieweb.org/ is also a good place to ask. (twitter.com/_/status/976954027744415744)
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@kaushalmodi @ChrisAldrich @_dgoldsmith That's correct. I am reading through https://ascraeus.org/embracing-the-indieweb/#webmentions, but I still cannot put the pieces together.. "What do I need to bake into my site, so that people can reply without having to write whole reply blog posts?". I'll check out that chat link too. Thanks. (twitter.com/_/status/976955218347941888)
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@kaushalmodi @ChrisAldrich Even without those quotes, http://webmention.io and http://indieauth.com were able to authenticate me. I had those quotes originally, but the HTML minification removes those.. apparently as "me" has no spaces, it being quoteless is syntactically correct. (twitter.com/_/status/976956173755867137)
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@ChrisAldrich @huby plain old semantic HTML with microformats in combination with the webmention protocol allow one to post "likes" to one's own website and send them to others. Here's a simple example: http://boffosocko.com/2018/01/11/1-million-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/976965497429352450)
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@_dgoldsmith @kaushalmodi @ChrisAldrich Hi Kaushal. I'm afraid I can't answer your question about replying without writing blog posts. I made the choice to not have replies, other than blog posts, and replies to syndicated content using webmentions/bridgy. I'd be happy to talk to you about it. (twitter.com/_/status/976970551909593089)
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