#dev 2018-04-07

2018-04-07 UTC
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GWG snarfed: That PR I just sent, it is in hopes of shopping around POSSE plugin integration with Micropub. I want to start emailing developers
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snarfed GWG: ok!
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GWG snarfed: I always worry about blasting you when I'm feeling motivated though. I know you always say I should just keep going, but still worry. It's my nature.
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snarfed understood. thanks for the concern. :P
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GWG I need a Micropub setting for private location though.
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GWG Maybe I'll write a proposal on the wiki
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GWG Is location-visibility too much of a mouthful?
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loqi.me created /toast (+268) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by [kevinmarks]" (view diff)
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GWG In WordPress, the unofficial standard is geo_public 0 or 1. The 0 or no property is assumed to be public. I added 2, which is text based location but not coordinates.
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GWG Referring to it as public, private or protected.
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aaronpk i think twitter has that feature too
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snarfed really?
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aaronpk oh nvm, it's just location enabled or disabled
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snarfed yeah
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aaronpk oh i'm thinking of flickr
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GWG I want to store location always, but not always share
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aaronpk sounds like a good idea
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[kevinmarks] Fire eagle and orkut had different location granularity based on friend graph
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tantek.com edited /toast (+24) "The Toast, fix dfn, note spotty online" (view diff)
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tantek.com moved /toast to /The_Toast "canonical article and caps"
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aaronpk btw, for anyone who has been reading my book or oauth.com, i'm going to be publishing an updated version in the next month or so, so let me know if you see any typos or if anything needs clarification! :)
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aaronpk I'm hoping to have time to expand out the IndieAuth chapter now that there's a proper spec I can reference :)
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snarfed aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 132 karma in this channel (1613 overall)
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tantek aaronpk awesome!
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aaronpk hm maybe that's a good excuse to email my list
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aaronpk i never know what to do with that list, because my only intention of creating it was to tell people when the book was out. then it came out and i didn't take down the signup form, and people keep signing up
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tantek did you change the text on the signup form?
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aaronpk much later
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tantek when "updates to" the book come out
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aaronpk it says "keep me updated" now. but it used to say something like "tell me when the book comes out"
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david.shanske.com edited /Micropub-extensions (+630) (view diff)
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www.boffosocko.com edited /content_management_system (+178) "Drupal plugins and users" (view diff)
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GWG aaronpk: Why does your itinerary type not have a summary option for backcompat?
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aaronpk I should add that
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Loqi yea!
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GWG I opened an issue.
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GWG It is why it won't work on WordPress
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GWG A WordPress post, unless you override it, requires a summary, content, or title or it will not work.
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aaronpk That seems reasonable
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GWG aaronpk: Quill is saying a post has been generated for an itinerary because a location header was returned, but the log on my end shows no location header
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GWG My end shows an error.
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ #IndieWeb also has some useful advice and help in these areas. They use things like POSSE, backfeed, and webmentions that allow site to site interaction that helps to solve the "bring folks to our sites" problem. https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/982493408852836353)
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@aegisdesign ↩️ @janole 🤔 time to support something like indieweb stuff or w3c Micropub & webmentions? https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/ (twitter.com/_/status/982593864459608065)
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@jkphl ↩️ Bausteine, mit denen das prinzipiell geht: 1.) Webmentions https://indieweb.org/Webmention 2.) Evtl. https://brid.gy, um dir Social-Media-Signale bequem in Webmentions an dich übersetzen zu lassen 3.) Schließlich: Guck dir mal @AaronGustafson's https://www.aaron-gustafson.com/notebook/enabling-webmentions-in-jekyll/ an (twitter.com/_/status/982603188032491521)
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@HeNeArXn ↩️ vermutlich http://brid.gy und http://webmention.io - von letzterem kann man die Daten entweder per javascript nachladen oder man lässt den build-prozess für die statische Seite das machen. Beispielprojekt: https://github.com/martymcguire/morris (twitter.com/_/status/982604027149070337)
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[miklb] I know the pieces are there, but has anyone written up testing micropub/webmentions in a local environment?
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Zegnat I seem to recall getting webmention.rocks to run locally for testing
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Zegnat Haven’t tried micropub.rocks
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[miklb] I mostly want to be able to test posting via micropub and sending a webmention to another local site. I know snarfed’s micropub plugin will work on local testing, but not sure about the part of sending the webmention to a local site
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[miklb] I’ll just jump in. Might not really need to send the webmention for my testing purposes, I just need to “see” it fire
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dansup writing a new websub library for php that uses guzzle
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aaronpk nice
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aaronpk client?
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dansup aaronpk: both, client and server.
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aaronpk sweet
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aaronpk are you including subscription management stuff in it too then?
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dansup yeah
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jalcine looking at those sites mentioned above (https://webmention.rocks and https://micropub.rocks), those have a lot of the bits of data for those specs needed for the project
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jalcine makes a note
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Zegnat jalcine, yes, aaronpk built them so it would be easy for people to test spec compatibility and file implementation reports against the spec :) They are great tools!
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jalcine indeed!
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aaronpk I need to start on indieauth.rocks soon
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aaronpk oh don't forget https://websub.rocks too :)
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kimberlyhirsh.com created /User:Kimberlyhirsh.com (+70) "Created page with "<span class="h-card">[http://kimberlyhirsh.com/ Kimberly Hirsh]</span>"" (view diff)
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kimberlyhirsh.com edited /User:Kimberlyhirsh.com (-71) (view diff)
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GWG Have to decide what to do next
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kimberlyhirsh.com edited /User:Kimberlyhirsh.com (+96) (view diff)
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aaronpk GWG: what are we waiting for to get the micropub and indieauth plugins shipped?
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kimberlyhirsh.com edited /User:Kimberlyhirsh.com (+83) "/* Itches */" (view diff)
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skippy are they in a repo for public scrutiny?
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[snarfed] aaronpk: me, to review and merge PRs 😂
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[snarfed] skippy: yup! easily searchable
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aaronpk haha k!
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[snarfed] soon!
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skippy indeed. found them.
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[snarfed] micropub plugin's bus factor is too high. I'll work on that
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[miklb] what does bus factor mean?
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aaronpk what is bus factor?
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Loqi bus factor is a relative measurement of risk concerning a project or service's potential fragility judged by asking the question "Will a project (or service) fail if one of its members is hit by a bus?" Also known as train factor, lorry factor, and other variations https://indieweb.org/bus_factor
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[miklb] nods
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aaronparecki.com edited /RelMeAuth (+634) "move brainstorming from [[email]] page" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /email (-424) "/* See Also */ move brainstorming to https://indieweb.org/RelMeAuth#Brainstorming" (view diff)
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aaronpk i'm always surprised when I see pictures like this https://indieweb.org/2014-05-06-iiw-indieauth as a reminder of how long we've been working on this stuff
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GWG aaronpk, pfefferle for IndieAuth, snarfed for Micropub
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GWG snarfed, do you want to turn the plugin over to the Indieweb community account and have PRs community reviewed?
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GWG I would gladly transfer mine to the community if anyone ever starting sending PRs in any volume
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GWG aaronpk, although like most of the Indieweb repo stuff, any community member can approve, pfefferle was having problems, so I want him to see if it works for him before shipping. I should prepare a blog post though
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GWG Still having trouble deciding what to do next.
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aaronpk finds https://indieweb.org/User:David.shanske.com#Itches
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GWG I still need a goal
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KartikPrabhu I randomly select 3 from your list GWG
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GWG I have many things that I want to do
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GWG I should update the list
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GWG I have a lot of little things
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GWG The media parsing for listening and watching for one
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