#dev 2018-06-07

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[grantcodes] But 100% the use case is to make micropub clients with it
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[grantcodes] It just provides a form and returns the mf2 json you would use for a micropub post (more or less)
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KartikPrabhu it seems to be building a micropub request and not mf2 markup then?
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[grantcodes] I guess so, trying to figure out what I should be calling it
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tantek_ grantcodes yup: https://indieweb.org/posts#Types_of_Posts
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tantek.com edited /travel (-65) "emojicon" (view diff)
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tantek_ hmm is walking travel or exercise
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tantek_ same with running and bicycling I suppose
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[cleverdevil] Depends on why you're doing it.
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tantek_ if you end up in the same place, it was exercise
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[cleverdevil] Can't infer intent from data.
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tantek_ did you POSSE to Strava? then exercise
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tantek.com edited /exercise (+311) "Brainstorming / Specific Exercise Types" (view diff)
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@dustyweb ↩️ Working Groups are only chartered for a certain amount of time (and we were given several extensions). Yes, we finished quite a bit (ActivityPub, MicroPub, Webmention, Linked Data Notifications, and some more), incubation of new things is happening in the Social Community Group (twitter.com/_/status/1004522612305866753)
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@jgmac1106 #indieweb jgmac1106: I explain to @cathieleblanc how indigineous app for Android and we talk about the future of microsub reader. (twitter.com/_/status/1004535604271513600)
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jgmac1106 Anyone or [kevingmarks] ever see this before with noterlice: https://jgregorymcverry.com/notes-from-virtual-homebrew-website-club-blogging-101-edition/ an issue with http://www.unmung.com/
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jgmac1106 it is the https/http mixed content?
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KartikPrabhu jgmac1106: yes it seems like mixed content. I get a warning on FF
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jgmac1106 doing the http https search and replace. Changed all the unmug http to https but I dfon’t think their is an ssl cert there. it is the hovercard button I clicked in noterlive.
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jgmac1106 and doing the http/https search and replace liek I usaluu do breaks all my media that I uploaded. crappit crap crap somebody didn’t make a backup of their mysql database before doing something stupid.
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jgmac1106 time to download all my content and install a back up from yesterday and then import all my cotent
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jgmac1106 looks like I will only lose four hours of content today. I downloaded all the posts for June but its probably not worth putting them back.
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[kevinmarks] Looks like unmung doesn't have https, which I thought it did.
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snarfed tantek: i switched bridgy github to the v3 api for creating comments. tried it on https://github.com/GoogleChromeLabs/confluence/issues/288 , works ok. feel free to try yourself!
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Loqi [tantek] #288 Define "Grace Period" and "can reasonably assume are still a part of the web...
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[kevinmarks] trying to switch unmung to https and I am in a maze of legacy Google products
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[kevinmarks] Despite serving the domain from appengine, to switch to ssl I have to verify I own the domain, which I registered through google. It redirects me to godaddy, as apparently way back in 2009 google outsourced registration to them. When I log into godaddy, I can't see the domain, as google registred it to their account or something.
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jgmac1106 wonder if stef can point you to someone who can help when West Coast wakes up
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jay.funabashi.co.uk edited /inari (+278) "/* Itches */" (view diff)
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jay.funabashi.co.uk edited /inari (+16) "/* Itches */" (view diff)
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markdain.net edited /hovercard (+542) "Added my website's hovercards to IndieWeb Examples section" (view diff)
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ancarda sknebel: https://indieweb.org/hovercard#IndieWeb_Examples
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ancarda How can I add a screenshot to that page?
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sknebel ancarda: https://indieweb.org/Special:Upload
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sknebel and thanks!
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ancarda No problem, I’ll get a screenshot up soon
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ancarda It’s a shame to see the examples section so bare. Do other people do hovercards as well?
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jay.funabashi.co.uk edited /IRC_People (+13) (view diff)
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markdain.net uploaded /File:markdain-hovercards-v1-indieweb.png "How the [[hovercard]] looks on https://markdain.net/ for links to IndieWeb sites containing an h-card. Version 1 of the feature. https://indieweb.org/File:markdain-hovercards-v1-indieweb.png"
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markdain.net edited /hovercard (+74) "Add screenshot of how hovercards look on my website" (view diff)
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ancarda sknebel: BAM! https://indieweb.org/hovercard#IndieWeb_Examples
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ancarda Does that look alright?
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aaronpk nice
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ancarda It'd look even nicer if I knew a bit more CSS & JavaScript
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ancarda Coming soon... a triangle at the bottom!
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snarfed !tell tantek migrated bridgy github reactions to v3 API too, both are now working on org repos
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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petermolnar snarfed: https://plugins.trac.wordpress.org/browser/keyring-social-importers/trunk/importers/keyring-importer-instagram.php
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snarfed yeah API
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[xavierroy] keyring importer works. just imported a post now
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aaronpk well that's interesting
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aaronpk did you have to go authorize the app on instagram?
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aaronpk actually, did you have to go make an instagram app in their developer site?
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tantek_ \o/
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Loqi tantek_: snarfed left you a message 54 minutes ago: migrated bridgy github reactions to v3 API too, both are now working on org repos
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tantek_ retrying
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tantek_ it worked!
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tantek_ http://tantek.com/2018/157/t1/ that is - Bridgy Publish of a reaction to a GH issue, without having to get repo/org permissions etc.
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] 👍
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tantek_ to be clear, that same post failed yesterday on BP using GH API v4
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tantek_ (I didn't touch anything in the post, just did a retry in my posting UI)
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tantek_ snarfed++ thank you for the migration!
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Loqi snarfed has 63 karma in this channel (387 overall)
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GWG Why do I feel like POSSE is an arms race?
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ancarda Arms race? In what way?
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tantek__ GWG, only with FB/IG (so still one company), and only incidentally as a side-effect. No actual "race" there.
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GWG We build an integration, they break it, we rebuild... repeat..
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tantek__ GWG, with GitHub this was more like AB testing. try both ways (v4 API, v3 API) and see which works better
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tantek__ GWG, this wasn't them breaking anything
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tantek__ I believe the only such integration that has been broken with any iteration is FB/IG
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tantek__ it's the exception not the rule
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GWG Maybe it is because we call it a silo
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[jgmac1106] Look forward to the day when Facebook is the exception and not the rule to how folks use the web. @gwg you build possibilities not break personal sites. Don't let anyone's "I quit" message get to you
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GWG It isn't
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GWG I just feel like we take a step forward and two steps back
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tantek__ GWG, it's too easy to be too harsh on yourself. The reality is every year we have made amazing progress over the previous. Not necessarily 100% of everything succeeds. However vast majority of efforts are making steady, sometimes slow, but ever forward progress. A testament to everyone's dedication.
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tantek__ it's more like 10 steps forward, one step back, repeat :)
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[xavierroy] [tantek] i had to create an app for Keyring.. but I haven;t touched it after setting it up in Jan.
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tantek_ nice
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aaronpk [xavierroy]: so that explains why you get API access... instagram lets you use the API to access your own account
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[grantcodes] Not sure what you're all doing with the instagram api but I managed to support posse to instagram with this https://www.npmjs.com/package/instagram-private-api
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tantek hmm
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tantek [grantcodes]: could you add that and how you did it to https://indieweb.org/Instagram#POSSE ?
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loqi.me edited /tests (+207) "tantek added "https://twitter.com/shadow/status/1001686735443628033" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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aaronpk Sounds risky.. might get for account shut down
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tantek It's an NPM package, what could possibly go wrong?
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[grantcodes] I have only ever posted posse content to instagram so don't really care if it gets shut down.
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tantek heh
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[grantcodes] Only issues I ran into were I had to scale down my photos / fix aspect ratios, and there is a limit of like 60 photos per hour
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tantek lol 60 photos/hr (!!!) perhaps add that to the limitations in /Instagram#Features 😂
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[grantcodes] Ha yeah I have some big galleries!
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[miklb] tantek there’s a PHP version of that private Instagram API https://github.com/mgp25/Instagram-API
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Loqi [mgp25] Instagram-API: Instagram's private API
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snarfed scraping--
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Loqi scraping has -5 karma in this channel (-9 overall)
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[miklb] yeah, I was just pointing out it’s not just a Node package. Not an endorsement
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[tantek] Understood. Still worth a short sentence in /Instagram#POSSE if you have a moment miklb
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grant.codes edited /Instagram (+435) "/* POSSE */" (view diff)
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[grantcodes] I did think of doing text notes to instagram photos as well, just for a fun project, but never got around to it yet
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tantek oh dear - there's so much of that I see on IG
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tantek mostly "inspirational quotes" but still
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[grantcodes] Even I don't spam instagram with them I think it would be cool to have them as the silo preview image
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I am very familiar with #Blockcerts and the current #Openbadges standards. Still thinking too complicated. I literally mean leaving a comment on a blog that sends a webmention back to another blog. A souped up pingback if you will. That is all you need… https://jgregorymcverry.com/3409-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1004776902857580544)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I know heads will explode, I ended up with 81 webmentions in just a few minutes and I am sure they are going to keep rolling in. Let’s do a pop up podcast: – Why is facebook teaching ~~adtech~~ digital literacy classes? – What should our response in… https://jgregorymcverry.com/3421-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1004782340361588736)
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gRegorLove I suspect most/all that karma for "scraping" came from snarfed :)
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snarfed regrets nothing
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[cleverdevil] https://cleverdevil.io/s/5FOl9btZs0.png
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[cleverdevil] Made some good progress last night on my location tracking stuff 🙂
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@kikipopsy Test webmention link: http://exploringwithmamabea.com/2018/05/22/Lisbon-9-things.html (twitter.com/_/status/1004809110871789568)
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@jgmac1106 Brad thanks for these great FAQs these are exactly the types of thins we want in a WordPress user guide (doing a theme developer guide separately). Luckily you have webmentions installed so I saw this post. #IndieWeb WordPress isn’t easy, but WordPress… https://jgregorymcverry.com/3429-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1004817746813743104)
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[grantcodes] [cleverdevil] will be interested to see how you handle the too many points issue I have
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[cleverdevil] I pick every 100th point 🙂
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[cleverdevil] (Its not a good solution... but its a solution!)
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[grantcodes] Yeah that'll work. But It is so satisfying to see a line when you are driving or something!
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[cleverdevil] Indeed. I haven't figured that out, yet, in terms of drawing a path using MapKit.JS
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[cleverdevil] Still, I am pretty pleased with what I have so far 🙂
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[grantcodes] For sure! Looking good
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@jgmac1106 I do not think you have the #IndieWeb webmentions plug in installed. I would see a box below to add my post as a webmention. If you want to spend ten minutes doing a tune up I would be happy to poke around. Just hit me up in chat anytime. Rest assured… https://jgregorymcverry.com/3434-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1004870856563154945)
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