#dev 2018-07-13

2018-07-13 UTC
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dougbeal
What is hugo
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Loqi
Hugo is a static site generator written in Go https://indieweb.org/Hugo
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@matpacker
↩️ Can I post the story to my website first, then syndicate through to @exposure, with backlinks and what-not recognising my site as the source? That would be boss! Support for IndieAuth, etc?
(twitter.com/_/status/1017571325387288576)
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aaronpk
Starting to really want Aperture to include full reply context in the timelines
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aaronpk
I think it’s all of eddie’s reply posts that are doing it for me
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aaronpk
And if I do that, then I might as well also start fetching posts from their own permalinks instead of just from the feeds, so that’s a lot of new things to think about on the backend
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[eddie]
Haha “oops?” Or “you’re welcome!” Whichever you feel is most appropriate 😆
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[tantek]
[aaronpk] should we at least try to iterate on best practices for in-stream reply contexts?
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[tantek]
Now that at least we have some (hopefully more than me) examples?
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aaronpk
I’m not sure. I don’t really like the idea of relying on untrusted data like that
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aaronpk
I think I’d rather do it right and fetch the data from the source
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aaronpk
actvitypub solves this by including the signature of the original object so that you can trust that the person forwarding it on hasn’t faked it, but it seems easier to just fetch it from the source
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tantek__
hah just the fellow I signed-in to ask a q
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tantek__
snafed, I tried posting a comment+tag in one post, a la https://indieweb.org/tag-reply#tag_and_comment and it didn't work as either. does Bridgy Publish only support u-tag-of OR u-in-reply-to but not both in one post?
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tantek__
and I can't type
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tantek__
!tell snarfed in http://tantek.com/2018/193/t1/ I tried posting a comment+tag in one post a la https://indieweb.org/tag-reply#tag_and_comment (though without any tag/category markup), and it didn't work as either. does Bridgy Publish only support u-tag-of OR u-in-reply-to but not both in one post? (when I updated that post to only have u-in-reply-to, no u-tag-of, then it worked as a comment)
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi
[Tantek Çelik] Here is another more recent example: http://tantek.com/2018/190/b1/scrollbar-gutter-move-to-css-scrollbars New issue, with two labels: css-overflow-4, css-scrollbars-1 Only the first label was added to the Bridgy Publish POSSE copy: https://githu...
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tantek__
just wondering if https://indieweb.org/tag-reply#tag_and_comment was/is in scope for Bridgy Publish implementing or not; I can file an issue if that's preferred!
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@Snorremd
↩️ @nilshauk Super cool! I need to look into how the whole IndieAuth thing works.
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@jgmac1106
Spending the morning returning to the #IES grant application, then its rebuilding university webpages all day. Yipee…. Should have made my /to-do-list page a post and not a page so I could send myself webmentions as I move through the ... https://is.gd/rfXZdL
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GWG
Zegnat, if you are at your keyboard, any thoughts on https://github.com/snarfed/wordpress-micropub/pull/135 where snarfed mentioned you?
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Loqi
[dshanske] #135 Split off Authorization
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Zegnat
I am writing a response right now, GWG :D
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GWG
Small world
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Zegnat
There you go GWG :)
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Zegnat
I’ll also quickly update my auth-header diag tool to check for that redirected value. Nice find, GWG! Did you ever document a source for it?
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[jgmac1106]
Looks like my name has been said three times so wanted to derail the PR with a BeetleJuice gif
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GWG
Zegnat: Not specifically...lots of Googling
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Zegnat
[jgmac1106], sorry, my gif skills aren’t up to it.
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Zegnat
Updated the diag tool now. No idea about the support for REDIRECT_HTTP_AUTHORIZATION but testing for it is no issue
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Loqi
[panic175] #47 HTTP_AUTHORIZATION is called REDIRECT_HTTP_AUTHORIZATION on some server configurations
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GWG
There are two
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Zegnat
Thanks!
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Zegnat
I wonder if we should be documenting this somewhere on the wiki, or if it is too technical?
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GWG
It isn't a bad thing, but I'm not sure which wiki entry
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Zegnat
Wat is authorization header?
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Zegnat
What is authorization header?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "authorization header" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "authorization header is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Zegnat
What is http authorization?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "http authorization" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "http authorization is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Zegnat
Hmm, I thought we might already have something.
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GWG
Zegnat: replied to your response.
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Zegnat
getallheaders === apache_request_headers afaik. So there really is no difference in using those two. I do like your reason for testing $_SERVER first.
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Zegnat
Eitherway, I think the function is about as complete as you can make it without redundent getallheaders/apache_request_headers fallbacks
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GWG
Zegnat: I like to hope upstream is always improving
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GWG
That is why I only make my own function to do something that is already in the system if there is a compelling reason to do so
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GWG
And there is always upstream PRs.
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GWG
Although on WordPress that is an uphill battle
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Zegnat
I hope they will adapt getallheaders for everything at some point. So we can stop with the whole `HTTP_` prefixed keys in the $_SERVER array.
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Zegnat
At least capitalisation does not matter anymore as all headers are lowercased by default in HTTP/2
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[jgmac1106]
@zegnat @karthikPrabhu is there any special markup or way you are experimenting with mf2 with https://indieweb.org/bookmark and fragmentions?
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Zegnat
Not me, I do not post bookmarks
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[jgmac1106]
Been talking with John Udell over at Hypothesis and he said it would be easy to use their API, strip down to html, and add back what I want, he just needs me to map it out
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[jgmac1106]
would involve /bookmark /quotation /reply /highlight and every possible combination of those four plus an image reply or video reply to each. Which brings back to what would [tantek] say, "Just leave it as the HTML and stick an h-entry on the entire page. Done"
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Zegnat
I am not sure what the end-goal is, [jgmac1106]?
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[jgmac1106]
writng the post now, first priority is just figure out embedding and using annotations in other posts in the simplest way possible, skipping all indieweb stuff
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[jgmac1106]
second priority, and I don't think it is smart, is to think about using annotations within a secondary piece from an IndieWeb perspective
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[jgmac1106]
on a different note here is a cool attempt at learnign analytics in the open that long term I want to do with indieweb stuff: http://marginalsyllab.us/crowdlaaers/
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Zegnat
You mean annotations as in comments to specific parts of another article? I think KartikPrabhu was doing that, yes.
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[jgmac1106]
yeah based on wiki it is a combination of bookmark+fragmention, but then I can get replies to that specific annotation which I think would just be /reply
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[jgmac1106]
a photo or gif reply would just get u-photo
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Zegnat
Well, anything could be used to reply to the annotation. Someone could chose to annotate your annotation. That’s just about what types of replies you want to handle on your site.
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[jgmac1106]
which brings me back to just stick with an hentry on the entire page, but if I get free time I may experiment like you and I tried with citations, I finished the first two in the fork of the citation builder I found, need to get back to it. Test and share. Just a brutal writing month for me
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Zegnat
Definitely [jgmac1106]. Just start by posting annotations to your own site and see what you need to get that to work. Worry about more specific mf2 later. Own your data first
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@vincentlistens
Adding Webmentions Support First step to fully supporting Webmention on my blog completed! I’m now pulling webmentions, likes and reposts on to the blog. I’ve also got PESOS working via my Micropub API and pulling Swarm Checkins in to the blog as well. Lots more still to do.
(twitter.com/_/status/1017793846485377026)
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sknebel
aaronpk: Loqi is missing a link here? ^^^
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Loqi
pong
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aaronpk
got stuck
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tantek__
[jgmac1106] interested to see what you come up with in terms of your own use-cases for posting /bookmark /quotation /reply /highlight posts to fragmentions
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jgregorymcverry.com
edited /indiewebring (-29) "replaced ringmaster with ringbearer. Keep truth out of parentheses."
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KartikPrabhu
the ringbearer has to eventually destroy the ring on Mt. Doom
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KartikPrabhu
[jgmac1106]: no, just u-bookmark-of with a fragmention link
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KartikPrabhu
I don't see any need to use new mf2 for fragmention/annotations
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Loqi
[Kartik Prabhu] “but much to say about humanity” nice thoughts on Minority Report and Artificial Intelligence. Sci-fi is best when it is not about the technology but about humans.
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KartikPrabhu
the bookmark link is fragmentioned. I might need to display the response-context better
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snarfed
a swarm of chickens
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Loqi
snarfed: tantek__ left you a message 11 hours, 2 minutes ago: in http://tantek.com/2018/193/t1/ I tried posting a comment+tag in one post a la https://indieweb.org/tag-reply#tag_and_comment (though without any tag/category markup), and it didn't work as either. does Bridgy Publish only support u-tag-of OR u-in-reply-to but not both in one post? (when I updated that post to only have u-in-reply-to, no u-tag-of, then it worked as a comment)
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snarfed
where's benwerd when we need him? 😂
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snarfed
tantek__: correct, bridgy doesn't support combined reply + tag-of right now
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tantek__
snarfed, so I should file an issue? as in treat them orthogonally, if both present do both?
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snarfed
you're welcome to...but honestly, the use case of combining them in a single post isn't very intuitive to me
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tantek__
as a publisher that use-case came very naturally, as in I wanted to make a comment and in that context add a label
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snarfed
does any silo support it? even apart from issues? eg comment + person tag?
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KartikPrabhu
twitter ?
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tantek__
well you support it for github issues + label
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tantek__
s/you/Bridgy :)
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snarfed
sure, if you want to do two things, combining them in a single post may be more convenient. that logic applies in lots of cases. but doesn't make it make any more sense to me
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snarfed
creating issue + label is different than reply + label
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snarfed
lots of existing precent for create + label. not much or any i know of for reply + label (or even other tags)
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snarfed
KartikPrabhu: feel free to elaborate, i don't know of any such feature on twitter
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KartikPrabhu
snarfed: I think I saw this once on the twitter, but don't know examples of hand
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tantek__
snarfed: any tweet, including @-replies, can include a photo, any photo can be person-tagged. thus Twitter supports reply + person-tag
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snarfed
KartikPrabhu: adding a tag or label to the tweet you're *replying to*?! hard to believe
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KartikPrabhu
oh! not that :P
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tantek__
but yes the effect is different
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snarfed
tantek__: but in that case the tag is of a photo *in the reply*. not tagging *the in-reply-to tweet*. different.
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snarfed
much less obvious (or i expect common) use case, at least to me
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tantek__
snarfed, I believe Flickr since they added #-hashtag support in description, comments
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tantek__
as in if you put hashtags in a comment on a Flickr photo, you are simultaneously commenting and tagging the photo
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snarfed
yeah? you can comment on flickr and simultaneously add a hashtag to the original photo? as a single action, in the comment? if so that's great precedent
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snarfed
great! ok
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snarfed
seems so non-obvious to me, but i don't use flickr
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tantek__
that's my understanding, would be odd if it didn't work that way
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tantek__
since they added hashtags at all
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snarfed
hah seems odd to me that it *does*. intuition is relative
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snarfed
feel free to confirm!
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snarfed
gotta run
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tantek__
so, file an issue asking for the suppor then, and iterate there with examples?
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KartikPrabhu
so on Flickr, tag goes to the photo itself and not just your comment on the photo?
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snarfed
tantek__: sure! low priority for me though, fair warning
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KartikPrabhu
what is Flickr
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Loqi
Flickr is a photo and video hosting silo founded in 2004 https://indieweb.org/Flickr
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snarfed
(how's your python? :P)
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tantek__
very odd, the hashtags in a Flickr comment are clickable in the iOS app but no longer in the web (desktop) UI.
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@nhoizey
↩️ @Paul_Kinlan I moved to distributed, standard based, and @indiewebcamp solutions based comments, AKA WebMentions: https://nicolas-hoizey.com/2017/07/so-long-disqus-hello-webmentions.html
(twitter.com/_/status/1017828818441134087)
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tantek__
!tell snarfed there are two levels to it. at a minimum, the presence of u-tag-of should not nullify / cause the u-in-reply-to comment to fail to work with Bridgy Publish. then incrementally on top of that, it should handle *also* adding any p-category properties as labels
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek__
nhoizey++
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Loqi
nhoizey has 1 karma
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tantek__
wow that's horrible - Disqus was 3/4 of his page weight! https://nicolas-hoizey.com/2017/07/so-long-disqus-hello-webmentions.html
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Loqi
[Eric Portis] Possibly useful, when you figure out what you want to do with avatars: cloudinary.com/documentation/…
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tantek__
what is Disqus
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Loqi
Disqus is a comments hosting silo https://indieweb.org/Disqus
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KartikPrabhu
yeah disqus is huge
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KartikPrabhu
mostly because of the big javascript stuff
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@nhoizey
↩️ @Paul_Kinlan @indiewebcamp I didn’t have much comments anyway, but most of all, I really like WebMentions and other distributed systems.
(twitter.com/_/status/1017830089516515330)
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tantek__
Disqus << Criticism: 2017-07-27 [https://nicolas-hoizey.com/2017/07/so-long-disqus-hello-webmentions.html So long Disqus, hello Webmention] <blockquote>I’m fed up with Disqus. It’s been useful, easy to plug on this blog, but it’s a mess for web performance, and I don’t own my data, so… bye bye.</blockquote><blockquote>Disqus accounted for three quarters of the page weight!</blockquote>
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Loqi
ok, I added "Criticism: 2017-07-27 [https://nicolas-hoizey.com/2017/07/so-long-disqus-hello-webmentions.html So long Disqus, hello Webmention] <blockquote>I’m fed up with Disqus. It’s been useful, easy to plug on this blog, but it’s a mess for web performance, and I don’t own my data, so… bye bye.</blockquote><blockquote>Disqus accounted for three quarters of the page weight!</blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /Disqus https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=49870&oldid=41425
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Loqi
[Eric Portis] Possibly useful, when you figure out what you want to do with avatars: cloudinary.com/documentation/…
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tantek.com
edited /Disqus (-6) "/* See Also */ better markup"
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aaronpk
I think I need to use a new account in aperture that has the 7-day limit because I think some people are having problems with it due to weird edge cases in some feeds
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aaronpk
it's gonna take some digging, but I think what happens is someone adds a feed with almost no activity, then a week goes by so the entries are deleted, then the next time it polls it finds all those posts again and makes them show up again as unread
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snarfed
heh. sounds like the opposite of eg https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/771
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Loqi
snarfed: tantek__ left you a message 16 minutes ago: there are two levels to it. at a minimum, the presence of u-tag-of should not nullify / cause the u-in-reply-to comment to fail to work with Bridgy Publish. then incrementally on top of that, it should handle *also* adding any p-category properties as labels
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Loqi
[snarfed] #771 original post discovery: handle sites with high post velocity better
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snarfed
tantek__: oh absolutely. 500s are always bugs, full stop. i'm fixing that now.
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tantek__
that'll be a big help because then I can start publishing reply-to + tag-of posts again without getting penalized, and then those can be used as examples for testing / analysis etc.
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tantek__
I had to revert my (minimal) u-tag-of code because it was causing Bridgy Publish to fail
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snarfed
heh. sorry! i'm deploying that bug fix in minutes
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snarfed
...begs the question though, do i interpret those posts as replies or as tag-ofs
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snarfed
actually yeah even regardless of the answer, the right fix for granary's format conversion is less obvious than i thought. it's going to take longer than minutes after all
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snarfed
i'll get to it soon, but for now i'd recommend not bridgy publishing those combined posts, until i have a fix
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tantek__
I'll leave the u-tag-of code disabled for now
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snarfed
the catch is that i have to convert to AS, and i don't know a reasonable way to represent a single AS activity that's both a reply and a tag at the same time
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snarfed
(feel free to bridgy publish normal tag-ofs still though! just not in combination with a reply.)
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tantek__
multiple object-type tags right?
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snarfed
AS1 :/
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tantek__
right pretty sure that's still allowed
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snarfed
more importantly, which verb? i handle multiply valued object (and can probably handle type), but multiple verbs?!
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snarfed
afaik not many of those core "type" etc fields in AS1 could be multiply valued
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KartikPrabhu
hmmm seems like AS is being a bottle-neck right now
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tantek__
snarfed, presumably: <object-type xmlns="http://activitystrea.ms/spec/1.0/">reply</object-type> <object-type xmlns="http://activitystrea.ms/spec/1.0/">tag</object-type>
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KartikPrabhu
snarfed: just out of curiousity, why did you choose AS as the intermediate format for granary?
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tantek__
KartikPrabhu: I think granary predates h-feed
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snarfed
right, that decision was 2012ish
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KartikPrabhu
aah. got it. I was confused about this when I once looked at granary's code
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tantek__
presumably at the time, AS1 was the "richest" intermediate format
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snarfed
hard to pick winnners :P
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tantek__
"winner"
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snarfed
exactly
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KartikPrabhu
"whiner"s
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snarfed
anyway. i've made granary's internal AS1 handle "more" than strict AS1 before, eg making some fields like these multiply valued. i can do it again. it'll just take work.
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snarfed
(switching to a different internal format is pretty out of scope though. that'd be a huge project.)
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tantek.com
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tantek.com
edited /XOXO (+227) "add a few indieweb related events that happened in the past"
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snarfed
more discussion on this AS1 difficulty at the bottom of https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/832
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Loqi
[snarfed] #832 github publish: crash on reply post with tag-of
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tantek__
snarfed, it's funny that AS assumed one activity type etc. when it's been clear here on a few occasions that things can be multityped in (user) practice
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tantek__
I think AS2 even did away with the one-type assumption
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snarfed
probably why they relaxed that in AS2 :P
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tantek__
whereas with mf2 we assumed multi-type objects at a fundamental data model level
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snarfed
more like, mf2 mostly avoids the idea of explicit type at all
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tantek__
h-entry does you mean
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snarfed
whether single or multiple
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tantek__
whereas mf2 definitely has a "type" for objects e.g. h-entry + h-review etc.
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tantek.com
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tantek.com
edited /XOXO (+61) "link to local XOXO 2018"
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tantek__
snarfed, also a good critique of why objectypes vs verbs was a bad idea (also dropped in AS2)
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snarfed
heh yes
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[kevinmarks]
I think as1 assumed that you'd do facepile-like summaries for multiple actions
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tantek__
kevinmarks, if only as1 had documented such design assumptions
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[eddie]
I’m slowly build out a new “homepage” for my site, however it’s not a homepage yet. In fact, it’s not even publicly linked to, I’m just using it privately.
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[eddie]
It looks horrible as it’s almost completely unstyled, and yet I’m amazed because it’s a view being handed directly from my backend server rather than being part of my Jekyll site which takes 20 minutes to rebuild. I keep being amazed when I do a new post and look at the page and suddenly it’s updated immediately. 😆 https://eddiehinkle.com/overview
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Loqi
Eddie Hinkle
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[eddie]
And I’m even able to do things that would just be so difficult to do in Jekyll’s template, such as grab all the items I ate within 30 minutes of the most recent thing I ate (which seems weird, but then makes sense when you realize I log my sandwich and my chips separately)
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[eddie]
Once I get off Jekyll I’m never going back to it for anything remotely complicated haha, simple sites only for Jekyll and me
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aaronpk
static sites have many advantages, and being dynamic is not one of them
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[eddie]
Yeah. I have abused Jekyll sooooo badly trying to make it as dynamic as possible haha
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tantek.com
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tantek.com
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tantek__
googlegroups-- for *STILL* using hashbangs
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Loqi
googlegroups has -1 karma in this channel (-7 overall)
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tantek__
hashbang--
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Loqi
hashbang has -1 karma in this channel (-3 overall)
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tantek__
seriously there has to be a business model of, replicate "obvious" stuff Google etc. other BigCos are doing with crappy URLs, crappy markup, crappy bloated JS, except with clean URLs, minimal semantic markup, minimal progressive enhancement JS
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tantek__
and you can be guaranteed no competition because everyone else is too afraid to build something in an area that Google already "owns"
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[kevinmarks]
It worked for Google Code
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tantek__
You mean it worked for GitHub
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tantek__
yes, that is a very good point.
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aaronpk
flickr is ripe for this too. their website has been getting so slow full of js
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tantek__
1. pick the crappiest "service" that Google "owns", rebuild it with clean/minimal URLs + markup + progressive enhancement JS.
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tantek__
2. wait for people to gradually shift to your new cool thing, and Google's old thing to get filled with spam, neglected, and eventually shutdown
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aaronpk
tho I woudlnt try to take on flickr right now cause smugmug might actually fix things up now
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tantek__
3. wait 2.5 years
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tantek__
4. profit
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tantek__
aaronpk, not flickr, because smugmug is not a BigCo
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tantek__
aaronpk, Flickr has already been displaced by Instagram effectively
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aaronpk
I guess so
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tantek__
which already had their wait and profit moment
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tantek__
what's amazing is that Flickr is still hanging on
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tantek__
I have some theories about that
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tantek__
(I mean was amazing up until the smugmug acquisition, now I give Flickr a much bigger chance of hanging around than before)
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[kevinmarks]
Monica did great work on building out activity streams usefully
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[eddie]
!tell strugee So far https://github.com/strugee/node-send-webmention#readme has been working great for sending webmentions, but I can’t figure out how to get the response url back when I use it to send a webmention to bridgy
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi
[strugee] node-send-webmention: Send a Webmention
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snarfed
heh yeah, still pretty rare that anyone expects to do anything with a wm http response
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[eddie]
The odd thing is I see some code that supposedly should print the response in the readme, but it never outputs anything
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[eddie]
I have automated bridgy syndication now, my only hurtle left is getting the url from the response into my post as a u-syndication 🙌
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[eddie]
I found the manually webmentions too much of a barrier to POSSE my GitHub stuff. But hopefully that is changed now with automatic webmentions :crossed_fingers:
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tantek__
eddie++ great!
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Loqi
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[eddie]
It was manually until it hurt and boy, did it hurt! Haha
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loqi.me
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kaja.sknebel.net
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Loqi
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loqi.me
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aaronpk
i'm having a conversation using monocle posting to my site, talking to someone using mastodon, and it's working amazingly
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tantek__
and you're not using Bridgy Fed at all right?
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aaronpk
correct
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tantek__
so we now have two ways of making that work
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tantek__
I'm assuming snarfed has done what you're saying, but with his site and Bridgy Fed
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aaronpk
yeah bridgy fed would support what i'm doing right now too
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[snarfed]
plurality++
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Loqi
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aaronpk
I learned a lot doing it myself
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aaronpk
also I now know why bridgy fed doesn't do the whole following/followers thing so people can subscribe to your posts
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[snarfed]
hah yes
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tantek__
what is design
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Loqi
Design is a catchall term used to refer to everything that affects users about a page/site including: Graphic design (including site icon) User interface design (UI design) User experience (UX) Information architecture (IA) URL design https://indieweb.org/design
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tantek__
design << 2018-06-29 Fast Company: [https://www.fastcompany.com/90177573/how-blue-became-techs-favorite-color-and-why-it-shouldnt-be Why tech’s favorite color is making us all miserable] (tl;dr: blue bad, orange/red good)
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Loqi
ok, I added "2018-06-29 Fast Company: [https://www.fastcompany.com/90177573/how-blue-became-techs-favorite-color-and-why-it-shouldnt-be Why tech’s favorite color is making us all miserable] (tl;dr: blue bad, orange/red good)" to the "See Also" section of /design https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=49937&oldid=46154
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dougbeal.com
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dougbeal
Hurm, is my user template not set up right?
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aaronpk
the image URL is wrong
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aaronpk
oh wait no it's not
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aaronpk
twitter is blocking it
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aaronpk
might have to switch to a profile image on your own URL
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dougbeal
probably a good idea anyway
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dougbeal
Who is dougbeal
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tantek__
This is an excellent article on "separation of concerns" by adactio: https://adactio.com/journal/14103 and I think the way we design and assemble indieweb building blocks is consistent with his approach. wondering how we can document that in terms of "separation of concerns"
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Loqi
[Jeremy Keith] Components and concerns
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KartikPrabhu
yeah that article is very on point. Couldn't decide where to put it when I read it a few days ago
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tantek__
Figured I'd share it here to see if others had thoughts on where to document it
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KartikPrabhu
what is separation of concerns
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "separation of concerns" yet. Would you like to create it?_ (Or just say "separation of concerns is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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KartikPrabhu
what is components
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "components" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "components is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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KartikPrabhu
has no suggestions
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aaronpk
what is modularity?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "modularity" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "modularity is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek__
difficult to define in the abstract absent any relevant indieweb context
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tantek__
I think we have a principle similar to modularity
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KartikPrabhu
right. It is more of a design principle
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aaronpk
that's what I was thinking
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tantek__
feel free to expand that or create a subarticle starting from principle #8
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tantek__
for "modularity" that is