#dev 2018-07-15

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@kickscondor ↩️ Apologies. Microsub, that is. (twitter.com/_/status/1018301286003798016)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Glad to see your http://micro.blog adventures going so well. Just saw on #indieweb chat @kfitz added webmentions. We really need to pull all us academics together. Maybe an IWC even virtually. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/4359-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1018305235037679617)
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@jgmac1106 If folks at #WPCampus would love to learn more about how #IndieWeb themes and plugins work let me know. Happy to have convo. Webmentions are a glue to hold students together. (twitter.com/_/status/1018350098831609856)
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weblog.200ok.com.au edited /Posts_about_the_IndieWeb (+202) "/* Articles */" (view diff)
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@pstuifzand I see that you also added dt-published to the date. That makes it complete for the readers. Thanks! https://www.kickscondor.com/2018/07/14/microsub-for-xyz-and-this/ https://p83.nl/p/796 (twitter.com/_/status/1018379548302413824)
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@NielsGouman ↩️ @frankmeeuwsen Best leuk die webmentions onderaan je blog. Waarmee heb jij die weergave gefixt? (twitter.com/_/status/1018400031454453766)
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GWG There was some discussion of a Micropub endpoint outputting what properties/post types it recognized as a query option, wasn't there?
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aaronpk sounds familiar
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/Micropub-brainstorming#Query_for_supported_vocabulary
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[eddie] Aha beat me to it!
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GWG snarfed: Howdy
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snarfed hey GWG, lots of great work recently!
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snarfed sorry i've been slow ish on reviewing. real life :P
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GWG snarfed, I have heard of it
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GWG I don't mind. Just excited about moving forward
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GWG I am trying to ride the wave
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GWG But while I am waiting, I have some other things I can do.
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GWG Like writing a media endpoint
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GWG The problem is that I have to make sure things work during intermediate steps when I intend to switch to functionality that has those pieces built in
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snarfed hah, yes!
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GWG snarfed, for the Micropub Endpoint, it would have to be a massive PR to rewrite every single test to use the request object over a direct query check.
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GWG That's why I wrote the media endpoint, to show you what the code for the main endpoint would look like with tests
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snarfed GWG: great! thanks!
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snarfed i'm actually looking at the auth PR right now. your latest commit on it, https://github.com/snarfed/wordpress-micropub/pull/135/commits/b78db77aa40a06f6820e5e4fb9be0c47e50c7dd7 , is a really big structural change from what the original PR did, which was a surprise
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GWG snarfed, as I noted, the problem is trying to build something knowing that I won't need it in the next phase
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snarfed that's unusual, since it makes a PR hard to reason about and review when it changes so drastically in the middle or reviewing
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GWG I was trying to address the issue of the confusion about testing
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snarfed ah, sure! i probably could have been more clear. i'm definitely looking forward to seeing more tests!...but it wasn't required for this PR itself, just in the (near) future
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GWG snarfed, oh
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snarfed mind if we punt that commit to another later PR, so we can keep this one contained and understandable based on what you originally put in it?
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GWG Okay. Need me to revert?
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snarfed yeah please do. make a separate branch based on this one first so you can save that commit and use it later, or however you want
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snarfed i think then we just need to 1) return $user_id vs $user and 2) ideally move those add_filter()s to init()
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GWG I have no problem, as I really wanted to get the parse query stuff out before unit testing
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snarfed debates whether this kind of talk belongs here, or #-wordpress, or DM
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GWG snarfed, happy to move to Wordpress. When I move the filters right now, it breaks the testing
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snarfed heh #-dev isn't ideal because this is narrow, for a single PR; #-wordpress isn't ideal because it should ideally be welcoming for non-technical people; DMs aren't ideal because then other people don't see the conversation
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snarfed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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snarfed asking in #-meta
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@jeffwatkins Do I know anyone who would be willing to write an Amazon Lambda WebMention thing? I’ll release the code as open source and (if necessary) pay you a bit for your time. This is intended to work with a Jekyll-published Website. (twitter.com/_/status/1018549298726821890)
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dougbeal What is Lambda
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Loqi Lambda is a service from Amazon Web Services that runs individual functions of code rather than running a server https://indieweb.org/Lambda
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gregorlove.com edited /discuss (+26) "/* Chat Channels */ #wordpress +general WordPress development, per /2018/Leaders" (view diff)
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dougbeal Idiepaper users lambda?
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dougbeal need caffine, Indiepaper uses lambda?
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sketchess greetings tech corner
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dougbeal Hi sketchess
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@outlawpoet ↩️ Now I'm concerned some hapless employee is going to die trying to push the microsub to the final cave so he can "claim victory" (twitter.com/_/status/1018578083358507008)
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sketchess I am pretty lost again.
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sketchess I go for straight as possible. How does a url get its http? Not https..... http.
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sketchess After reading about CSP, lets encrypt, HTTP or HTTPS and so on.... it just hit me. My Domain is as plain as it gets. Typ it www. or leave it aside and does not matter..
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dougbeal What is www
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Loqi www in the context of the IndieWeb is an unnecessary subdomain on personal domain name https://indieweb.org/www
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dougbeal What is 301
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Loqi 301 (301 Moved Permanently) is an HTTP status code returned from a web server to indicate the URL is permanently redirected to another URL https://indieweb.org/301
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sketchess Please don't through wiki links at me.
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dougbeal sketchess: Usually the webserver is responsible for redirecting www. to .
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dougbeal sketchess: Just refreshing/looking for pointers
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dougbeal sketchess: A browser will use DNS to translate www.domain into an IP address, which it uses to actually talk to your webserver.
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sketchess I see, we hadn't the pleasure to meet before.
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dougbeal sketchess: Then then webserver (in apache its usually configured in .htaccess) tells the browser (with HTTP status code 301) that it actually wants .domain
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dougbeal Was that the level of detail you were looking for?
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sketchess fetching for the right words
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sketchess Ok, straight as possible again. Try to explain it to me as if I were a child.
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sketchess That would work in my case.
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sketchess Do you need an starting point from my side?
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sketchess -n
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sketchess level of knowledge for example
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dougbeal Sure, and what point of view, like from the browser, or from the point of view of creating a new website.
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sketchess give me a little time to put the words together
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dougbeal Ok
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sketchess Probably some background information (attempts) would be a good idea.
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dougbeal Let me try an analogy.
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sketchess wait
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dougbeal Oh, did you mean you will give the background information?
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sketchess Yes. Otherwise I would have asked you for it straight.
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sketchess I am aware of my cognitive weaknesses. Well I am not quite the fastest typer as well. I need a little bit of time to process language. I am also not native English speaking.
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sketchess good candidate for dyslexia ;)
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sketchess Ok. I own my own domain. Its hosted on an Apache server. I have very basic knowledge when it comes to web development. .....
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sketchess For me the decision was easy to stick with pure CSS and HTML5. So a static webpage it is.
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sketchess We had a chat about security issuses on beginners level and possibility / benefits in chat yesterday.
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sketchess To sum it up. HTTPS combined with CSP was deeper dived into.
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sketchess I left with some material to read about (links), which I did. And got basically triggered by articles regarding gooles decision to mark HTTP websites as unsecure. ......
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sketchess own further research to get a hang of things.... well.....
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sketchess Things went as they had to..... I checked my own Domain. OK HTTP will get marked as unsecure... but wait, realising, doubt... I don't even have THAT anyway. Just a line (CSP) in a .htaccess file can't set my Domain to HTTP. So how do URLs get their HTTP before even think about HTTPS or not.
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sketchess picture painted......
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dougbeal Ok, I think I have a analogy.
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sketchess shot
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sketchess ok shoot
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dougbeal Using phone numbers. A url is like an entry in your contacts, it takes a name to a number (www.domain.tld - "Jonny B. Goode")
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dougbeal http is like an implied country code when making a phone call
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sketchess you mean the person to reach for...
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dougbeal which ends up being the server port apache is listening on (80)
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sketchess and you lost me
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dougbeal yeah, I didn't like that jump
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sketchess hahahahahaha
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Loqi rofl
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sketchess Well I have assumptions.
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sketchess Or better....
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sketchess Let's pretend may main document got a nice little .htaccess with its CSP line. Is it correct that creating that file won't set my Domain to http?
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dougbeal To talk to a computer on the internet, you need an address and a port (10.0.0.1:80). Its kinda of like a building address, and then the aparement in the building
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dougbeal http is like a well understood thing in each building, say a lobby
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dougbeal So when you want a web page, you send to http (or in the analogy, the lobby)
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sketchess no document is not the correct word.... wrong wire
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sketchess folder
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dougbeal So by default, anyone wanting your webpage will send to http
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dougbeal In the analogy, apache would be like the manager in the lobby, accepting packages
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dougbeal With static pages, apache works by looking at your folder for the website. Like a manager might look at building mailboxes
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dougbeal Is the analogy helping at all?
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sketchess I am not sure, cause I have to translate your word into pictures and give them meaning.
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sketchess It would be a greate script for a learning video with all those interactions and text pieces poping up.
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sketchess Maybe you are trying to hard beeing metaphorically accurate.
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sketchess One simple question.
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sketchess Is .htaccess somehow connected to HTTP?
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dougbeal yes, through apache
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sketchess Next simple question.
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GWG htaccess is a configuration file for Apache
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sketchess Does .htaccess somehow define / implement HTTP?
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sketchess used to let it appear
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GWG No, just defines how Apache responds to requests
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sketchess OK, then what does?
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GWG Your web browser or server
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GWG Apache being a server
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GWG A very popular one
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sketchess Hello GWG.
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GWG Hi
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dougbeal http is defined by a standards body (IETF, I guess?)
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GWG IETF and the W3C
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GWG It is a protocol on which the web is built
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GWG It is how you get web pages
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sketchess Maybe you can take all my wonders from me, why my Domain doesn't have a HTTP?
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GWG Which domain is this?
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dougbeal sketchess: do you mean if you go http://domain.tld it doesn't work?
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dougbeal go (in a web browser)
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sketchess picmodi.de still
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GWG And what did you do once you bought it?
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sketchess hat do you mean
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GWG I see the site when I visit it
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sketchess Yeah. That does not prevent me from wondering, why it is not shown http://....
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GWG In the browser bar?
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GWG Because some browsers hide it.
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sketchess jup..... that's why I got triggered in the first place
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sketchess aaaaah......
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sketchess So I did ask the wrong question due to my lack of knowledge.
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GWG I think it was seen as a development question
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sketchess My curse is that nobody can see my thoughts printed on a wall. *sigh
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sketchess That would make things so much easier. Gosh what would I give to make it possible.
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sketchess Hah, the aswer is. All domains are by default HTTP, some just got hidden and others, well they got their upgrade to HTTPS.
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sketchess Thank you very much for all that patience.
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dougbeal You are welcome, I'm glad we got to an answer.
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sketchess dougbeal++
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Loqi dougbeal has 2 karma in this channel (11 overall)
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sketchess You prevented me from having a very bad night. :D
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sketchess I rather not ask what part happens to appear development related. Hahahaha. Instead I wish you a very pleasant night and sleep.
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Loqi rofl
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sketchess enjoy your time
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sketchess bye
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dougbeal bye o/
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@jeffwatkins ↩️ I think I’ve got this all wrong: I think the WebMention thing needs to be part of my Jekyll build so posts ping people I’ve @ mentioned. (twitter.com/_/status/1018610456821288960)
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aaronpk whoa something's going crazy in aperture
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aaronpk there's some post that is filling the logs with "3"s
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@schnarfed ↩️ @jeffwatkins https://indieweb.org/static_site#Sending_Webmentions , https://indieweb.org/static_site#Receiving_Webmentions ? (twitter.com/_/status/1018613017691295744)
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aaronpk holy crap the log file from today is 6gb
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snarfed !
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aaronpk it's writing hundreds of megabytes a second
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aaronpk attempts to download this file to see what's inside it
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aaronpk how do you even open a file this big
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aaronpk whoa, it's marty's podcast
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schmarty Wait what
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aaronpk this is so weird
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schmarty Is this feed data from one of my feeds?
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aaronpk trying to trace this, one sec
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aaronpk here's a snippet from my logs https://media.aaronpk.com/Screen-Shot-2018-07-15-14-55-17-lsjqNkyQpG.jpg
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schmarty Woah. Hmm. it’s pulling the audio attribute as a full file?
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aaronpk .. could that be?
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aaronpk the proxy thing is supposed to be encoding the URL as hex
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aaronpk you aren't using a data URL anywhere are you?
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schmarty I dang well shouldn’t be
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ I have a lot of email spammers talking about my site who can't spell CONVERSATIONS either. What's worse is that when I contact them, none have ever even heard of simple standards like Webmention. ;) (twitter.com/_/status/1018615665111035904)
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dougbeal snarfed: does anything happen with bridgy when an issue is closed?
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snarfed dougbeal: github backfeed? no
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dougbeal I wonder what should happen...
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dougbeal A badge status (if such a thing is possible) doesn't seem like the right solution
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snarfed there are lots of non-comment events that could ideally be backfeed
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snarfed closed, reopened, labels/commits/reviewered added/removed, etc
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snarfed feel free to file issue(s)
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dougbeal yeah. are there any other Kinds that have similar needs?
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tantek__ what is an issue
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Loqi issue is a special kind of article post that is a reply to typically some source code, though potentially anything at a source control repository https://indieweb.org/issue
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tantek__ dougbeal: see and add to existing brainstorming here: https://indieweb.org/issue#Close_and_re-open_issues_when_commenting
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snarfed (dougbeal was talking about backfeed)
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tantek__ that detail is irrelevant. whether posting from your own site, or bridgy posting a synthetic post as backfeed, the question (brainstorming) remains of how to represent such actions/posts
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snarfed afaik github still renders them in the UI (and i expect the API too) as separate comment and close actions, not combined, even if you created them by clicking the "comment and close" button
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snarfed i expect it's just a convenient UI not shortcut, not an inherent part of their data model. like gmail's "send and archive"
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dougbeal Are labels part of this "status stream" as well?
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dougbeal Assignes?
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snarfed dougbeal: yes
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snarfed example: https://github.com/snarfed/wordpress-micropub/pull/136#event-1734361952
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dougbeal Hurm, so would listen/read have a similar control stream?
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dougbeal Like percent remaining?
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snarfed example of github "comment and close" creating two separate events ("posts") on an issue timeline, not a combined one: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/827#issuecomment-392522810
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Loqi [snarfed] tentatively closing.
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snarfed dougbeal: no clue
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dougbeal What is Comment Kind
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Comment Kind" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Comment Kind is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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dougbeal What is a Comment
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Loqi A comment is a reply syndicated into the context of the original post https://indieweb.org/comment
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dougbeal Oh, with Salmention in the mix, comments are a tree?
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tantek__ what is a response
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Loqi responses, or interactions, in the context of the indieweb, refer to all the different ways and things people explicitly do to and with others’s posts, from written replies to quick likes, in other words responses = replies + reactions https://indieweb.org/response
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tantek__ comment kind is /response
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Loqi ok
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snarfed.org edited /issue (+424) "/* Close and re-open issues when commenting */ github feature is just a UI shortcut, not actual combined comment-and-close object" (view diff)
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snarfed comments can be a tree independent of salmentions, right? since you can reply to a reply
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tantek__ snarfed, interesting about the two separate "events" of GitHub comment and close
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[dougbeal] True
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tantek__ still, I'll take the UI-centric view (what you're calling a "UI shortcut) as the "actual" [reflection of reality], instead of the plumbing-centric view (what "events" are created in GitHub's database)
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tantek__ storing and displaying user intent (close + comment simultaneously) > what happens to fit some abstract data model
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aaronpk is it displayed as one event?
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aaronpk no, it shows up as two separate things, the same as if the two actions were taken separately
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snarfed tantek__: no, look at the example link i posted. they're *rendered* visibly as two separate events
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snarfed also kind of like gmail's send-and-archive
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tantek__ which to me smacks of fidelity loss somewhere
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tantek__ snarfed, except there is no stream of the history of a message in gmail
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snarfed sent and archived are distinct things that show up visibly in the UI
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snarfed but understood, the analogy is a stretch
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tantek__ so we can't argue kind of like either way - because there is no way to confirm what send-and-archive does in that respect
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tantek__ send, archive, send+archive are distinct things that show up visibly in the UI
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snarfed sure you can. send is a clear action with a permanently visible result. archive is too.
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snarfed ...on the email *after* you do it, that is
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tantek__ the existence of distinct things does not prove the non-existence of composite things
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tantek__ CSS properties are a good example.
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aaronpk the gmail shortcut is slow enough that you can actually see that it is two separate actions
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snarfed lol sure....but in these cases, after you take a composite action, there's no visible way to tell that you did that, vs if you did the two separately
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snarfed which is a pretty strong signal
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aaronpk you can watch it send then archive as two separate steps
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tantek__ which as I said, is lossy in terms of capturing user intent
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snarfed eh. high level, i don't really think it's a high priority for us to figure out composite actions like these
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tantek__ maybe we need a transaction post special type of collection post to reflect these kinds of composite responses
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tantek__ instead of trying to design individual composite variants
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snarfed ugh
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aaronpk why
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snarfed i get that they're a convenience for publishing code in some cases, but they make more work for lots of other code and tools in many other places
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tantek__ to reflect user action 1:1
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tantek__ which is more important than reflecting data model 1:1
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snarfed and i don't see a benefit beyond pure authoring UI shortcuts like github's or gmail's
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tantek__ because the data model must always follow the user model, not vice versa
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tantek__ snarfed, easy: undo
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tantek__ which exists in gmail
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aaronpk eh, it's more important to me that the backfeed I get to my site looks the same as it does on github
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tantek__ it undoes whatever you chose
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tantek__ whether send, archive, or send+archive
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snarfed hah, undo send does exist in gmail, but i bet undo send and archive doesn't also undo the archive
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snarfed do you know that?!?
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tantek__ so yes, they are saving that information somewhere
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snarfed i kinda doubt it
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tantek__ yes of course I do it all the time
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snarfed but maybe!
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snarfed cool! ok then
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tantek__ aaronpk: re: why -> undo
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tantek__ undo must undo the user notion of what they did, not some abstract data model of the most recent atomic thing in the data model
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snarfed eh ok. i'd love to see more examples of composite actions in silos that are rendered visually later as composite actions. i don't think we have many (any?) yet
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tantek__ undo is a powerful reason IMO
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snarfed absolutely, very good reason
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tantek__ to treat composite actions as such
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aaronpk aren't we talking about backfeed?
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snarfed both
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snarfed i still think composite actions are probably medium to low priority for us as a community, but i get the rationale
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tantek__ exactly
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tantek__ agreed with the priority, and I'm realizing I'm scratching the edges by bumping into this
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snarfed and they're *definitely* low priority for me specifically on bridgy and granary, vs other things
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snarfed but understood. no worries! gotta blaze trails :P
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tantek__ undo is still a bit priority for me
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snarfed agreed!
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tantek__ perhaps the biggest reason I have yet to finish a working posting UI
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snarfed reminds me of https://snarfed.org/2015-11-29_keep-bridgy-publish-dumb
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tantek__ (not requiring editing HTML + scp)
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tantek__ indeed
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aaronpk stats++ https://media.aaronpk.com/Screen-Shot-2018-07-15-15-46-33-dgiXiSVkh3.jpg
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[dougbeal] I wonder if gitea copies GitHub semantics , and if itbl has undo
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snarfed aaronpk: oh man cool!!!
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aaronpk that's gonna look great in 24 hours
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tantek__ snarfed, in short, I've wanted (and designed a user flow / mockup UIs) a gmail-style "undo" of every possible post/delete sequence in my own posting UI
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tantek__ that works with/without JS
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tantek__ it's quite hard
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snarfed oh hell yes it is
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snarfed ambitious
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tantek__ yes. keeps getting sniped by other smaller incremental improvements / explorations
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tantek__ might be the kind of thing where I'd need to take a vacation off all other work/email for 1-2 weeks in order to build it. incrementally making progress on it has been insufficient to date.
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dougbeal I still want some sort of issue link so I can use a bookmakrlet/micropub client to one-click create an issue on my blog and syndicate it
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dougbeal Guess I will start with my own blog
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dougbeal What form should the link take?
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aaronpk what the heck format is this http://feeds.pinboard.in/rss/u:ats/
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dougbeal Would the issue status problem be similar to if you wanted to have seperate comment streams for different languages?
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dougbeal What is a channel
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "channel" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "channel is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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dougbeal What is a microsub channel
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "microsub channel" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "microsub channel is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk:seems like RSS + RDF
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: link https://www.w3.org/TR/2014/REC-rdf-syntax-grammar-20140225/
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Loqi [Fabien Gandon] RDF 1.1 XML Syntax
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aaronpk omg why
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KartikPrabhu because https://xkcd.com/927/
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Loqi [XKCD] Standards https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png
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tantek__ no because /architecture_astronomy
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KartikPrabhu good job Loqi
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tantek__ which is worse than 927
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KartikPrabhu tantek__: yeah but I couldn't find a comic for that ;)
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tantek__ KartikPrabhu: 1174 is close. see /app
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tantek__ dougbeal: I don't understand your questions
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tantek__ what do you mean by "issue link"? can you provide an existing (silo?) example?
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tantek__ (the issue status problem appears to overlap the reading status problem - see also gRegorLove's post, /indiebookclub etc.
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tantek__ )
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dougbeal tantek__: not aware of any, something like <link rel="issues" href="https://github.com/dougbeal/repo" />?
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dougbeal tantek__: I'm wondering if the generalization is just having some sort of grouping on comment stream
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tantek__ sounds like we need to document "issues" as distinct from "issue"
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tantek__ to help clarify this discussion
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tantek.com edited /issue (+500) "/* Close and re-open issues when commenting */ follow-up to preferring UI model ("shortcut") as more reflecting user-reality than plumbing-centric perspective of API, add Gmail send+archive example which it treats atomically when undoing" (view diff)
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tantek__ dougbeal a-ha we have a separate page, /issues which redirs to https://indieweb.org/issue_tracker
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tantek__ what is an issues link
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "issues link" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "issues link is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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tantek__ what is a repo
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Loqi A repository (AKA repo) is a collection of typically code & related versioned files in a folder (hierarchy), issues & their responses, and a set of (named) releases, often hosted in a source control backend such as Git, on a service like GitHub, or on independent sites using open source software https://indieweb.org/repo
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dougbeal tantek__: I guess now is the time if we want to disambiguate the link name ;)
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tantek__ issues link is a common UI element on [[repo]] pages and web standards specifications (often with just a label like “Issues”) that links to the [[issue tracker]], usually to a [[collection]] or [[stream]] of [[issue]] posts, for that repo or spec.
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /issues_link (+278) "prompted by tantek__ and dfn added by tantek__" (view diff)
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tantek__ dougbeal does that reflect what you meant by "issue link"?
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dougbeal Is rel-me the only codified link?
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tantek__ what is rel registry
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Loqi The rel registry is http://microformats.org/wiki/existing-rel-values#HTML5_link_type_extensions https://indieweb.org/rel_registry
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dougbeal tantek__: yes, but I want is to expand it to project/websites for autodiscovery
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dougbeal What is rel
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "rel" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "rel is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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dougbeal Should rel point to rel registry?
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dougbeal What is rel-me
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Loqi Using rel=me on a hyperlink indicates that its destination represents the same person or entity as the current page, which is a key building-block of web-sign-in and IndieAuth https://indieweb.org/rel-me
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dougbeal rel-me << rel registry
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Loqi ok, I added "[[rel registry]]" to the "See Also" section of /rel-me https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=49980&oldid=47457
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tantek__ rel is an HTML attribute that has a space separated set of values defined by the [[rel registry]] used in the IndieWeb for various [[discovery]] purposes such as [[identity]] ([[rel-me]]), [[authorship]] ([[rel-author]]), [[Webmention]] endpoint, [[Micropub]] endpoint, [[IndieAuth]] endpoints, etc.
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /rel (+326) "prompted by dougbeal and dfn added by tantek__" (view diff)
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tantek__ dougbeal, feel free to start /issues_link#Brainstorming and document your specific user scenario(s) you want to enable
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dougbeal tantek++ I would never have followed that back to rel registry
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Loqi tantek has 40 karma in this channel (457 overall)
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tantek__ continues to externalize the hypermedia in his head
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tantek__ repo << issues link
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Loqi ok, I added "[[issues link]]" to the "See Also" section of /repository https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=49982&oldid=49585
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tantek__ issues link << repo
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Loqi ok, I added "[[repository]]" to a brand new "See Also" section of /issues_link https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=49983&oldid=49979
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loqi.me edited /issues_link (+34) "tantek__ added "[[repository]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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tantek__ issues link << issues
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Loqi ok, I added "[[issue tracker]]" to the "See Also" section of /issues_link https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=49984&oldid=49983
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tantek__ issues << issues link
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Loqi ok, I added "[[issues link]]" to the "See Also" section of /issue_tracker https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=49985&oldid=49538
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