#dev 2018-07-26
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[eddie] Oh wow, NASA blogs support Microformats https://blogs.nasa.gov/insight/
# [eddie] NASA feed in Indigenous https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-FBX53HM0S/image_from_ios.png?pub_secret=e4fac47f22&name=Image from iOS.png I added the url to Aperture and it offered a microformats option
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[ryan339] whoa I just realized i’ve been using ngrok like a chump this whole time… i didn’t know anything about config files and not having to reboot every 8 hours with their free plan
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iambismark .
# iambismark aaronpk: question about quill, its correctly posting the image to my media endpoint, but then once i post the note, it just does a multipart post with the image...
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[dougbeal] dougbeal: nope
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dougbeal.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:vHWC 2018-07-25.png]]" https://indieweb.org/File:vHWC_2018-07-25.png"
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# [jsorge] var response = HTTPResponse(status: .created) response.headers.replaceOrAdd(name: "Location", value: location) return req.makeResponse(http: response)
# [jsorge] Are you using Vapor too?
# [jsorge] I got it figured out. In the Vapor response, I’m using the `replaceOrAdd` method on its headers property.
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boffosocko.com edited /on_this_day (+1213) "Chris Aldrich, Colin Walker examples; CMS support for; WordPress plugins" (view diff)
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[cleverdevil] Turns out the Facebook JSON export is better than the HTML version, and the photos are much higher resolution now in the exports.
# [cleverdevil] The bad news is, its not *great*.
# [cleverdevil] There isn't much in the way of metadata to determine if a "post" is a status update or a photo or an event, etc.
# [cleverdevil] I've written a quick script that uses some heuristics in the form of regex against the "title" property to determine what I am looking at.
# [cleverdevil] With that, I've been able to convert like ~70% of the content into workable MF2 JSON.
# [cleverdevil] (Mind, this is only for *my wife's* Facebook export... not any arbitrary export).
# [cleverdevil] Weaponized regular expressions 😛
# [cleverdevil] The "FILTERS" represent content I plan on ignoring, basically. Not content that is worth migrating.
# [cleverdevil] Anyway with that, I am going to veg out and then hit the sack. Good night indieweb 🙂
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# [ryan339] aaronpk: just double checked against micropub.rocks, all the media endpoint tests pass. when I use https://quill.p3k.io/editor, I get the upload to the media endpoint but then it sends the image as a data url upon publish. https://quill.p3k.io/new uploads to the media endpoint but then posts a multipart/form-data
# [ryan339] i do see some requests to `GET /path/to/media/enpoint?q=last` that i’m just returning a 400 to…
# [ryan339] the location urls i’m returning from `POST /path/to/media/endpoint` do resolve (they weren’t before but i patched that up to pass micropub.rocks), but i never see any GET requests for them from quill so i dont see how that would make a difference…
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jgmac1106 need a few more use cases before going experimental with: http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/05/07/microformats-i-would-like-in-remixable-indieweb-classrooms
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gRegorLove !tell jgmac1106 I don't recall the post you're referring to, but if you're asking about mixing mf2 classes with CSS classes, that's fine. Recommended to put CSS classes first in the space-separated list, to discourage styling based on the mf2 classes.
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# [cleverdevil] So, interesting question. Trying to figure out how to transform some Facebook export data, specifically for photo albums, to MF2 JSON.
# [cleverdevil] Photos in Facebook can have some metadata associated, such as a caption/title.
# [cleverdevil] My understanding is that the 'photo' property in MF2 just contains a list of URLs to photos on an h-entry.
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KartikPrabhu what is photo post?
# [cleverdevil] How might one go about capturing the photo metadata in the MF2 JSON?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "photo post" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "photo post is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# KartikPrabhu what is photo
# Loqi A photo is a post whose primary content is a photograph or other image, with an optional caption. With multiple photographs it becomes a multi-photo post https://indieweb.org/photo
# KartikPrabhu so each photo is its own h-entry with "content" as the caption/title
# [cleverdevil] Hmm... seems pretty heavy.
# [cleverdevil] And I doubt that, say, Micro.blog would actually support bundling of photos together into a single album in this way.
# KartikPrabhu then each photo is its own h-entry with no album structure
# [cleverdevil] Hmm.
# KartikPrabhu so each photo is a h-entry, if you want an album structure then the album is its own h-entry with the photo property having nested photo h-entry s
# [cleverdevil] It'd be nice if elements in the 'photo' properties array could be JSON dictionaries with a URI and a comment.
# KartikPrabhu that is what the above does
# KartikPrabhu the photo property of the album is a JSON dictionary of the individual photos as h-entry
# KartikPrabhu no! alt text is to describe the images
# KartikPrabhu [cleverdevil]: http://pin13.net/mf2-dev/?id=20180726173429605 :)
# [cleverdevil] Yeah mostly concerned about getting High-fidelity migration to Micro.blog here.
# [cleverdevil] So, I’d really want to do something that Micro.blog actually supports.
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# [ryan339] does anyone know of a library/tool for “baking” embedded tweets? i.e. running a tweet through a headless browser so their javascript does all of its formatting, etc so that you can then dump the final html in to a static page without loading their javascript?
# [cleverdevil] Ah that’s super helpful KartikPrabhu! Now I just need to see if Micro.blog will actually support that.
# [cleverdevil] I’m guessing I could ask [manton] 😉
# KartikPrabhu [cleverdevil]: also if you use "u-photo h-entry" then the "value" becomes the URL which you might want
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# snarfed aww hey KevinMarks_ looks like http://www.unmung.org/ is down?
# [ryan339] [snarfed]: either one. my basic goal is to stop loading twitter’s javascript on my site and just do everything at build time…
# [ryan339] cool, i’ll poke around with it!
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# [cleverdevil] I'll likely do a first pass that converts everything to more "standard" and "correct" MF2 JSON, and then have a second pass that takes that, and does formatting and such that makes it publishable to Micro.blog.
# [cleverdevil] So, I can use the basic structure here - http://pin13.net/mf2-dev/?id=20180726173429605
# [cleverdevil] Then, on second pass, use the media endpoint to upload photos, generate the HTML for the h-entry album post, and then publish that.
# [cleverdevil] Oh?
# [cleverdevil] Ah, I thought it was something standard-ish based upon the earlier conversation.
# [cleverdevil] I hadn't either 🙂
# KartikPrabhu totally allowed in mf2 afaik
# KartikPrabhu ok
# KartikPrabhu in mf2 any property can be a object
# [cleverdevil] Is there something on the wiki that captures the collections/albums?
# KartikPrabhu what is album
# Loqi An album is another name for a collection of photos or songs https://indieweb.org/album
# KartikPrabhu what is collection
# Loqi A collection is a type of post that explicitly lists and/or embeds multiple other posts chosen by the author https://indieweb.org/collection
# KartikPrabhu ok
# [cleverdevil] Sadly, none of the examples cited on the wiki are really capturing what I'd like...
# KartikPrabhu yup
# [cleverdevil] So, that leaves two options that I can think of:
# [cleverdevil] 1. KartikPrabhu's approach of overloading the photo property with an array of h-entries.
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# [cleverdevil] 2. Exporting to an array of MF2 "items": one for each photo, and then a last one that refers to the photos and bundles them together into an album.
# KartikPrabhu they are both "overloading"
# [cleverdevil] In either case, I'll have to do post-processing to generate a single album "article" so I am not sure it really matters that much.
# KartikPrabhu at least my overloading is allowed by the spec
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# gRegorLove micro.blog has albums?
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# [cleverdevil] Hm, I like that [aaronpk]
# [cleverdevil] I could generate it *without* the "content" on the album in the first pass.
# [cleverdevil] Then, loop through the "children" in pass two to upload the photos to the media endpoint, and generate the content in that phase, before publishing the album post.
# [cleverdevil] (I won't have the URL to each photo until after I've uploaded them to the media endpoint... sort of the biggest chicken/egg challenge here).
# [cleverdevil] One question I have is time zone related. In the export from Facebook, everything just has a timestamp (in seconds), but there is no data about the time zone.
# [cleverdevil] Should I assume its in UTC, or should I assume its in local time for where the post was created?
# [cleverdevil] (I hate time zones...)
# [cleverdevil] Yup 😕.
# [cleverdevil] I am not positive, but I am relatively certain that the timestamps are all in local time for wherever the post was made.
# [cleverdevil] Which is irritating.
# [cleverdevil] Because you have to know where it was made to decode the proper time!
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@ITXcorp "So what are #Webmentions and why should we care?"
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# [cleverdevil] [manton] does Micro.blog support uploading videos to the media endpoint?
# [cleverdevil] My wife's Facebook export has a few dozen MP4 videos.
# [cleverdevil] Gotcha.
# [cleverdevil] Let me see.
# [cleverdevil] She has 140 videos, all less than 2 M
# [cleverdevil] So, small 🙂
# [cleverdevil] I think I am going to assume that, [aaronpk].
# [cleverdevil] But, I'll double check.
# gRegorLove Is .tube a tld? micro.tube ;)
# gRegorLove It could be a Vine replacement
# Loqi Vine was a service for sharing six-second-long looping videos https://indieweb.org/Vine
# jgmac1106_ [manton] research on learning says optimal video time <6 min
# Loqi jgmac1106_: gRegorLove left you a message 3 hours, 36 minutes ago: I don't recall the post you're referring to, but if you're asking about mixing mf2 classes with CSS classes, that's fine. Recommended to put CSS classes first in the space-separated list, to discourage styling based on the mf2 classes.
# jgmac1106_ i mean <7 min
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@hasdid #PHP | Bye Disqus, Hello Webmention! https://goo.gl/jzSu4W (twitter.com/_/status/1022566537327206405)
# jgmac1106_ but on YouTube most videos <2 min get the most engagemenet
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# jgmac1106_ either way if shooting h.264 1080p that still can put you at a over a gig if you split difference and end up at 5 minutes
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# [kim_landwehr] [manton] is there any update on getting micro.blog to work with Monocle. I am still getting the following error when I try to log in using my micro.blog connected website.
# [kim_landwehr] [aaronpk] [manton], the only thing that is in the footer is some webring info and the microsub link to aperature
# [kim_landwehr] at least that I can see
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aaronpk [manton]: did you implement this part of the indieauth spec? https://indieauth.spec.indieweb.org/#access-token-verification basically making a GET request with a token to the micro.blog token endpoint
# [kim_landwehr] still getting this error. Monocle appears stuck on loading the channels and when I try Together it comes up but no channels load. So the problem appears to be loading the channels
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@eicker „#Webmentions: Enabling Better #Communication on the #Internet. Over 1 million Webmentions will have been sent across the internet since the #specification was made a full #recommendation by the #W3C ... in early January 2017.“ http://j.mp/2LaGsJC (twitter.com/_/status/1022590131230912513)
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@eickerBEratung RT eicker: „#Webmentions: Enabling Better #Communication on the #Internet. Over 1 million Webmentions will have been sent across the internet since the #specification was made a full #recommendation by the #W3C ... in early January 2017.“ http://j.mp/2LaGsJC #eicker (twitter.com/_/status/1022590232183689216)
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# [kim_landwehr] sorry it was time for dinner, [manton] should I retry it
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# [kim_landwehr] ok no problem, thanks for working on it [manton]. I know how busy you must be
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[kevinmarks] https--
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# KartikPrabhu https++ it is good
# [jgmac1106] KarmaFight++
# KartikPrabhu karmafight-- no one needs this
# KartikPrabhu ;)
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# gRegorLove incremental++
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# [jgmac1106] Makes sense @kartikPrabhu a true conflict in Karma can only end in balance
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# [kevinmarks] I have spent all day wrangling https for a client. I suppose at least it is billable.
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