#dev 2018-07-28

2018-07-28 UTC
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loqi.me created /ditchbook (+115) "prompted by [cleverdevil] and dfn added by [cleverdevil]" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /ditchbook (+60) "[cleverdevil] added "https://github.com/cleverdevil/ditchbook" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /verified (+328) "Plurk example" (view diff)
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[snarfed] so I've been blithely ignoring every post on https://developers.facebook.com/blog/for the last month or so
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[snarfed] ...for the first time in many years
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[snarfed] kinda great 😎
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GWG [snarfed]: Well deserved ignorance
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@mguastafierro Webmentions: Enabling Better Communication on the Internet http://bit.ly/2LUYdJc (twitter.com/_/status/1023100929116172289)
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@FrontEndReads Webmentions: Enabling Better Communication on the Internet https://ift.tt/2O3PqXd (twitter.com/_/status/1023137892040957952)
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@lobsters Sending your First Webmention from Scratch via @ninjatrappeur https://lobste.rs/s/0e3wyh #web https://aaronparecki.com/2018/06/30/11/your-first-webmention (twitter.com/_/status/1023200226885038083)
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NinjaTrappeur wow, is this a bot?
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sknebel NinjaTrappeur: Loqi? yes
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NinjaTrappeur Or right, this is a tweet. I have been confused for a moment and though you had a way to somehow generate webmentions from lobste.rs
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sknebel although there was talk at some point to add Webmentions to lobste.rs
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sknebel https://github.com/lobsters/lobsters/issues/383 <- "PRs welcome"
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Loqi [voxpelli] #383 Feature: Send Webmentions
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aaronpk What is a TLD?
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Loqi A top-level domain (TLD) is the last part of a domain name, such as .com, .net, .org https://indieweb.org/TLD
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aaronpk TLD << TLD Rot https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/the-death-of-a-tld
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Loqi ok, I added "TLD Rot https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/the-death-of-a-tld" to the "See Also" section of /Top-level-domain https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=50363&oldid=48909
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boffosocko.com edited /Jekyll (+179) "article Adding Webmentions to Jekyll by Jordan Merrick" (view diff)
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[xavierroy] .IWC could've been used for ndiewebclub
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KartikPrabhu probably expensive tld
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[snarfed] min $185k, often much more
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[miklb] could you imagine how much progress could be made on indieweb stuff with $185K to fund work?
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[jgmac1106] I am trying federal grant work but that will only be like 85-100k a year and rarely awarded on first submission
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[jgmac1106] Oops this was tld thought it was call back to crowdsourcing
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oyam When talking about Channel POST action, the microsub spec says: "Note that the default and notifications channels can not be deleted". There is no other mention of a "default" channel though? Does it mean you can't delete the last channel, or is there a requirement for a channel with UID "default"?
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aaronpk ooh good catch
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aaronpk I think earlier there was a channel with UID "default" but we dropped that requirement
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aaronparecki.com edited /Microsub-spec (-28) "/* Channels */ no channel with UID "default"" (view diff)
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aaronpk here's the discussion https://github.com/indieweb/microsub/issues/16
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Loqi [EdwardHinkle] #16 Decide whether Home and Notifications channels should be in the channel list
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aaronpk looks like I forgot to update that sentence after that discussion
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oyam aaronpk: thanks!
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oyam aaronpk: just to clarify that update, the user can't delete the last channel, right?
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oyam (last, not counting "notifications")
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aaronpk I guess it wouldn't break anything if the user did delete the last channel
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aaronpk it would just look weird for there to not be any channels in the interface
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aaronpk but clients have to get the list of channels to show, and the server would just return an empty list
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gRegorLove What is Open Library?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Open Library" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Open Library is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegorLove what is openlibrary?
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Loqi openlibrary is an Internet Archive project to create a page for every book, and provide cover images and the ability to borrow or read as many as possible https://indieweb.org/openlibrary
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gregorlove.com moved /openlibrary to /Open_Library "canonical name"
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gRegorLove What is Open Library?
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Loqi Open Library is an Internet Archive project to create a page for every book, and provide cover images and the ability to borrow or read as many as possible https://indieweb.org/Open_Library
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KartikPrabhu what is openlibrary?
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Loqi Open Library is an Internet Archive project to create a page for every book, and provide cover images and the ability to borrow or read as many as possible https://indieweb.org/openlibrary
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KartikPrabhu was checking if move also redirects. that is nice
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gRegorLove Yep, handy
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boffosocko.com edited /webring (+207) "http://ben.thatmustbe.us" (view diff)
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oyam aaronpk: My confusion/clarificatipn on deleting was coming from here: "Servers must always have a channel with the uid notifications, and must always have at least one other channel for a user." , which implies there must be at least one channel that's not notifications
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aaronpk ah yeah, good catch. at this point we should look at the clients and see if they all have done the same things regarding the number of channels
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oyam heh yeah. I'm biased, as I'm implementing both client and server :)
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aaronparecki.com edited /local_development (+1369) "gTLDs" (view diff)