#dev 2018-08-05

2018-08-05 UTC
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@jackyalcine
↩️ I think it's possible for one to fold ActivityStreams (that's the O part of the I/O of ActivityStreams) into a MicroSub (or WebSub) client. It'd require some transformation logic.
(twitter.com/_/status/1025907396491657216)
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ChasedSpade
After acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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Loqi
ChasedSpade said: After acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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ChasedSpade
"All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
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ChasedSpade
Handshake cryptocurrency scam is operated by Andrew Lee (276-88-0536), the fraudster in chief at Private Internet Access which now owns Freenode
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ChasedSpade
Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC might be a good choice.
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MrHands20
After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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Loqi
MrHands20 said: After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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MrHands20
"All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
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MrHands20
Handshake cryptocurrency scam is operated by Andrew Lee (276-88-0536), the fraudster in chief at Private Internet Access which now owns Freenode
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MrHands20
Even christel, the freenode head of staff is actively peddling this scam https://twitter.com/christel/status/1025089889090654208
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@christel
It’s live! What an incredible whirlwind journey it has been to be involved with ⁦@HNS⁩ thus far - I now look forward to seeing what the world makes of it and where the community takes this decentralised DNS and CA project! https://handshake.org/
(twitter.com/_/status/1025089889090654208)
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MrHands20
Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
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ululate
After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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Loqi
ululate said: After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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ululate
"All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
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ululate
Handshake cryptocurrency scam is operated by Andrew Lee (276-88-0536), the fraudster in chief at Private Internet Access which now owns Freenode
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ululate
Even christel, the freenode head of staff is actively peddling this scam https://twitter.com/christel/status/1025089889090654208
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@christel
It’s live! What an incredible whirlwind journey it has been to be involved with ⁦@HNS⁩ thus far - I now look forward to seeing what the world makes of it and where the community takes this decentralised DNS and CA project! https://handshake.org/
(twitter.com/_/status/1025089889090654208)
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ululate
Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
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PityDaFool12
After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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Loqi
PityDaFool12 said: After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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mar77i_
After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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Loqi
mar77i_ said: After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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Miron4
After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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Loqi
Miron4 said: After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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developers
After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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Loqi
developers said: After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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iooner21
After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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Loqi
iooner21 said: After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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jgmac1106
Well I got 2.5.1 up and running, added the webmentions gems and sinatara…but then I get stuck at launching: / href="https://indiewebsandbox.jgregorymcverry.com/" target="_blank">https://indiewebsandbox.jgregorymcverry.com/ out of time to play for the day and need to get to work
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sknebel
hm, the <video> tags on my site first appear as a smaller size and only after a moment size up to fill the width of their container like they should (set as width:100% in css). do I need to add some hint to the CSS or HTML stop that?
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jgmac1106
who is sknebel?
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jgmac1106
not sure it is the css, once cached it doesn’t happen again]
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jgmac1106
You could just use the video poster attribute and have a holder in place while they load
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jgmac1106
I can go with the u-photo instead of the u-featured, I was thinking if folks tweeted or tooted out their badge it would be nice if the u-featured displayed
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Zegnat
They can still share the image as an image if it is the u-photo. I guess I am just not clear on that usecase
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jgmac1106
its a WordPress hangover, featured images automatically get shared on social media
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jgmac1106
I will change to u-photo…but to me the badge is the featured image of that post
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Zegnat
What is featured?
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Loqi
featured is a proposed mf2 property (typically as u-featured) for h-entry that indicates a representative image for a primarily textual post https://indieweb.org/featured
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Zegnat
Hmm, interesting, I actually had a different meaning of featured in my head
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jgmac1106
yeah you were just thinking the big splash images
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jgmac1106
but based ont he proposed definition I think it write
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Zegnat
I was thinking those big banner images you see on top of Medium articles and the like.
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jgmac1106
I would like the criteria and evidence to be listed in the badge, maybe an anchor link on the module page and then <liink>in the badges
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Zegnat
And while those too could work well for link previews, I often find them to be of no importance to the actual post
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jgmac1106
that’s just a sign of bad writing, If I use a splash image I always try to draw out the metaphor in my lede
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jgmac1106
just added the anchor link to the criteria
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veganstraightedg
Hey y'all. Long time.
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veganstraightedg
(Oh good, it truncates my username)
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Zegnat
Actual IRC limit to the name, IIRC
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veganstraightedg
Yeah. That sounds right. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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veganstraightedg
@aaronpk @gRegorLove @snarfed @tommorris et al What are your Heroku account email addresses? I'll add you to the microformats.io apps.
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veganstraightedg
I'll also document the deploy and subdomain process today
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@pstuifzand
I started with using "refs" in the microsub items. When it's available in the original feed, Ekster will try to add it to the refs array. https://p83.nl/p/845
(twitter.com/_/status/1026128374220115968)
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aaronpk
yay thanks. aaron@parecki.com
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Loqi
😊
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veganstraightedg
@aaronpk Added you to the Heroku apps
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aaronpk
Thanks! Now I gotta remember how to use heroku
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veganstraightedg
Don't worry about that yet
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veganstraightedg
I'll try to document up all of the things
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aaronpk
woo thanks!
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sknebel
veganstraightedge++
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Loqi
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GWG
Veganstraightedge, glad to see you around
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GWG
Could anyone update https://indieweb.org/scope with Microsub?
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GWG
I just noticed it when thinking about cleverdevil and save
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GWG
I read the ones in the spec, but have never used it so not the best person to comment
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veganstraightedg
Anyone know what happened to https://go.microformats.io ? It used to look like the other subdomains, but now it's back to the non-bootstrap version.
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veganstraightedg
PS. Should this conversation be in #dev or #indieweb?
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aaronpk
dev 👍
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aaronpk
weird it's like the css link disappeared itself
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GWG
Also, does 'media' as a scope have wide adoption?
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Zegnat
Looks like a regression on the go one… https://github.com/willnorris/microformats still seems to use bootstrap in its latest version
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Loqi
[willnorris] microformats: Go library for parsing microformats (v2)
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veganstraightedg
Yeah. I don't know anything about how Go web app / deployment works.
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veganstraightedg
The code for the Go web page is still correct in that repo that @zegnat linked to
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veganstraightedg
This is the Go repo that's actually getting deployed
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Loqi
[willnorris] gomfweb: Heroku wrapper for the Go microformats demo app
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veganstraightedg
I think this line might be the issue
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veganstraightedg
Because that URL 404s now
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Loqi
[Will Norris] 404
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veganstraightedg
Thanks Loqi
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Loqi
you're welcome
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aaronpk
oh funny, did he move that to github? https://willnorris.com/go/gomfweb
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veganstraightedg
Omigosh. This is so silly.
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aaronparecki.com
edited /scope (+89) "add media scope"
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veganstraightedg
It's the trailing slash
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Loqi
[Will Norris] 404
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veganstraightedg
Reverse that. The one with no trailing slash works.
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veganstraightedg
I'll push a PR
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aaronpk
I think the code moved to github
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aaronpk
so that install line should point to the new github url
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veganstraightedg
The code was always on GitHub
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veganstraightedg
but he also has it on his site
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jgmac1106
hey [veganstraightedge] love your site, been spending my mornign last few days trying to spin up a Ruby site, so thansk for all the work you did
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veganstraightedg
@jgmac1106 Glad you like it. Thanks.
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veganstraightedg
What issues are you running into getting it running?
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aaronparecki.com
edited /scope (+173) "link to microsub scopes"
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jgmac1106
I couldn’t straighten out my certs to update gems to set up a local dev envrionment, and then I think I probably installed a ton of different versions using tools like tokaido
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jgmac1106
I got to here: https://indiewebsandbox.jgregorymcverry.com which has Sinatra and the webmention gems installed but got stuck, tried to start over and mucked it all up….I also have no idea what I am doing
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jgmac1106
but it is fun, I use your site and [jgarber] and a few others as guides. Was a flurry of Ruby updates around Summit
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veganstraightedg
Sent PR to @willnorris https://github.com/willnorris/gomfweb/pull/2
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Loqi
[veganstraightedge] #2 Fix heroku app
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veganstraightedg
@jgmac Lemme start over. Hi!
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veganstraightedg
When you say "your site" do you mean my personal site or the microformats.io site?
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veganstraightedg
@jgmac1106, that is. Not @jgmac (typing is hard)
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aaronpk
heh no tab-complete in the web chat yet
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jgmac1106
your personal site, atleast the one linked to on /ruby I like it alot
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shaners
Muscle memory is reeeeeal
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shaners
Oh right. Yeah. Thanks. There's, of course, a ton of work that I want/need to do to it.
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shaners
But I'm glad that it's been helpful for you.
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jgmac1106
but hello, sorry kids just walked in from pool, and I have to ship them off to a baseball game to keep working
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shaners
Go baseball go!
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shaners
My personal opinion is that while Sinatra is small and easier to grasp at first, you'll very quickly outgrow its convenience for anything other than small micro services.
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shaners
Rails is bigger and does a lot more / more for you. But, imo, it's a better fit for building things bigger than a couple few URLs / endpoints.
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shaners
YMMV of course. Choose your own adventure!
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jgmac1106
am I talking to two people or one person??
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KartikPrabhu
jgmac1106: shaners and veganstraightedge are one
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jgmac1106
[shaners] long term I am thinking what it would take to spin up something like: https://edu522.networkedlearningcollaborative.com/ into a simple web app other people could use for their courses
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Loqi
EDU 522: Digital Teaching and Learning Too
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shaners
Sorry. I fixed my /nick / username
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jgmac1106
no worries, yeah I fool around with a bunch of different stuff in the mornign to choose your own adventure, I am in no way a developer.
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jgmac1106
just fooling around as a teacher who likes using blogs and rss
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shaners
good luck!
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GWG
I need to talk out mapping user permissions to scopes. Anyone given any thought to this?
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aaronpk
wordpress user permissions?
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GWG
Well, for me, yes
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GWG
But in general
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GWG
Trying to wrap my head around how to improve this
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aaronpk
I'd say put that off if you can. A single-user website doesn't need the concept of user permissions and that's definitely most of what the wordpress plugin will be used for in the near future
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GWG
I am trying to limit app permissions
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GWG
I get nervous giving all access
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shaners
Is that @kylewm ?
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GWG
How does an endpoint tell a client what scopes it understands other than just not accepting them?
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aaronpk
GWG: I'm not sure I understand the question
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GWG
I just taught my endpoint what media was
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GWG
But Quill asked for it before it knew what to do with it
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aaronpk
you can ignore scopes completely if you want, and always issue tokens that have full permissions
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aaronpk
it's just a way for an app to tell the server that it wants particular permissions
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aaronpk
and the server is always free to further limit the permissions of the tokens that it issues
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GWG
I am just wondering if I should surface to the user that it doesn't know what this permission is
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aaronpk
I wouldn't bother
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aaronpk
as long as you make it clear what permissions are being granted that you do know about
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GWG
I need to improve the text then
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shaners
@aaronpk Does this look like the right version now? https://php.microformats.io
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aaronpk
I just moved the repo too
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shaners
I'm adding a README to that repo
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shaners
what license do you want? cc0?
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shaners
I forget, does it use a database to save past submissions?
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aaronpk
filesystem
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GWG
Anyone see this? Three of My Books Are Available in DRM-Free E-Book Format https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2018/08/three_of_my_boo.html
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GWG
I could go for that. I do love the stories of Alice and Bob
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shaners
Does that work on Heroku? Dynos have an ephemeral filesystem.
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aaronpk
seems to
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aaronpk
it's not meant to store them forever anyway
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Zegnat
I feel like Humble has done a security sale like that before, GWG. But I passed it up because of the books. This one does look interesting.
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Zegnat
The Wireshark book might be interesting too
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shaners
@aaronpk Gotcha.
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Loqi
[indieweb] microformats-parser-website-php: Small web page for displaying parsed microformats2
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shaners
I added a few TODOs in that README for you @aaronpk since I don't know the details of setting up and running this app
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shaners
Auto deploys are set up and working now
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shaners
Update to your heart's content!
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aaronpk
shaners++
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Loqi
shaners has 1 karma over the last year
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Zegnat
(Would that repo make more sense in the microformats org?)
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Zegnat
shaners++
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Loqi
shaners has 2 karma over the last year
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aaronpk
I was wondering that. the ruby one is in the indieweb org already.
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Zegnat
I guess it depends who “runs” microformats.io, IndieWeb or microformats... mm
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shaners
I don't have any dog in this fight. It seems to me that @indieweb has absorbed most things @microformats
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Zegnat
shaners, there isn’t really a fight. It was just something we discussed at last IWC :)
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shaners
It's just an expression. ie, I don't have a strong opinion one way or another. ;)
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shaners
There are more admins and members on the @indieweb org. And thus, imo, more resilience to things going stale or abandoned.
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aaronpk
we just did a round of fixing that on the microformats side
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shaners
If they all get moved to @microformats, that's fine by me. Lemme know and I'll update the Heroku side configs.
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shaners
@aaronpk what kind of fixing?
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aaronpk
adding more admins
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aaronpk
and github permissions
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shaners
Still running that old install of the wiki?
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aaronpk
yeah, that's gonna be a project
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Zegnat
Yeah, that was a bit of an issue. I think php-mf2 parser was supposed to move from indieweb to microformats? But left hanging when nobody could actually move it?
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shaners
yeah…
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shaners
A Project™
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[shaners]
I’ve moved to Slack app. Does this still show me as [shaners]?
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aaronpk
Zegnat: I think I can move php-mf2 now, should I try?
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Zegnat
I think all the contributors agreed to the move? So... sure?
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Zegnat
Someone might need to ping packagist of the move, but I am guessing you have access to that?
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Loqi
[microformats] php-mf2: php-mf2 is a pure, generic microformats-2 parser for PHP. It makes HTML as easy to consume as JSON.
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Zegnat
*gasp*!
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Zegnat
hopes gRegorLove is also a member of the mf org and didn’t get locked out now
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Zegnat
I don’t truly grasp per-repo access permissions on github
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[shaners]
What’re the implications of naming all the mf parser repos with same pattern?
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[shaners]
microformats/parser-php
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[shaners]
microformats/parser-python
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[shaners]
microformats/parser-ruby
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aaronpk
it's still useful to have "microformats" or "mf2" in the repo name, otherwise that context is lost when you clone the repo
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aaronpk
cause "aaronpk/parser-php" doesn't make a lot of sense, nor does having a folder on my computer called "parser-php"
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Zegnat
but normalising on a naming pattern does sound like it could be an interesting idea
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aaronpk
yeah, worth a discussion
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[shaners]
right. good point about namespace in name.
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KartikPrabhu
also it is possible to have mulitple parsers in the same language
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KartikPrabhu
someone could write a new python parser which is not mf2py
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[shaners]
[ben_thatmustbeme] [jgarber] What do yall think about moving the ruby parser to the microformats org on gh? I have no issue with it.
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Zegnat
KartikPrabhu, but would the microformats organisation then handle those multiples? That’s also the thing.
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[shaners]
[aaronpk] If we do do that (move ruby to /mf), a few more of us would need to be made admins on that org. At least me and [ben_thatmustbeme].
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Zegnat
I wouldn’t expect the Go parser to move to the org, for example
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KartikPrabhu
Zegnat: yes why not
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[shaners]
Is there any history of multiple parsers implemented in the same language?
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Zegnat
Don’t think so
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KartikPrabhu
[shaners]: not that I know of. but why discourage it
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aaronpk
closest one was the ruby one which got a pretty major rewrite
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Zegnat
We probably need a few more members on the mf org in any case. I don’t think I am even a member, and I am now a wiki-admin (or whatever that role was)
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[shaners]
If it’s not happened so far, decade plus, I think we should _pave the cow paths_ and effectively have one parser per language.
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[shaners]
If there’s a case where someone writes an alternative to an existing one, then we can figure out that case then.
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[shaners]
In the meantime, this normalized naming and all in one org would help discovery and documentation. Accessibility.
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sknebel
well, Javascript has two parser packages
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sknebel
I agree on the "same org", renaming parsers to fit some scheme seems like unnecessary effort (do we rename the distributed packages too, and have all downstream consumers change those? or do we create a mismatch between package and repo name?)
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[shaners]
Hmm. Good point.
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[shaners]
Only if automatic redirects work, like GitHub does.
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aaronpk
i'm also inclined to let each language decide the name for its package to fit the language's own particular naming conventions
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GWG
Did we ever solve the php-mf2 move problem?
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sknebel
just now
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GWG
Great
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[shaners]
to be clear, I only meant renaming the github repo. not the package itself. but I guess in some languages, github repo == package name.
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[shaners]
I retract my proposal to move and rename all of the things. 👋
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aaronpk
moving out of the indieweb org is still probably a good idea
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[shaners]
assuming [ben_thatmustbeme] chimes in and approves, i’m for it (for the ruby one)
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[jgarber]
[shaners] Moving to the microformats org works for me.
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Zegnat
aaronpk, while you are in there, mind adding a couple of us to the microformats org?
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[jgarber]
I don’t know that I’m a member of that GitHub org. I think my access to the repo is limited, too.
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[jgarber]
But notionally, thumbs up from me. 👍
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gRegorLove
shaners++ for microformats.io updates!
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Loqi
shaners has 3 karma over the last year
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[shaners]
[gregorlove] totes
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GWG
gRegorLove: What scopes does IndieBookClub ask for?
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gRegorLove
update and delete are somewhere on the horizon
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GWG
You mind if I add that to: https://indieweb.org/scope ?
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gRegorLove
GWG: Not at all, go for it.
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david.shanske.com
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GWG
aaronpk: As you implemented it, is mp-destination a property or a header?
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GWG
I'm having trouble with mp-destination as a concept.
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GWG
Specifically, I'm a Micropub Endpoint, and I get passed mp-destination for another site...would that be that I act as a client for another site?
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GWG
Also, it seems like, for Microsub, it might just be a channel on the site's Microsub endpoint.
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gRegorLove
mp-* are property names in the body
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aaronpk
yes those are all correct. it's a way for the client to tell the server t o send it elsewhere
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aaronpk
how the server does that is up to the server
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GWG
https://www.indiepaper.io/ - Then I'd better tell cleverdevil. His developer documentation states, "a mp-destination header containing the URL for your micropub endpoint"
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GWG
That's why I asked.
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GWG
aaronpk: Wondering if I can create a destination to support Indiepaper.
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GWG
That's why I'm thinking about it
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GWG
Otherwise, it will just create a traditional post
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[shaners]
[jgarber] [ben_thatmustbeme] Small README tweak https://github.com/indieweb/microformats-ruby/pull/90
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Loqi
[veganstraightedge] #90 Use Markdown for logo image in README
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aaronpk
GWG: i'm not sure how that would work? indiepaper doesn't store anything itself
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GWG
aaronpk: The destination would tell it that this should be shunted into a read-later section?
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GWG
Without the destination property, it would think it was creating a post.
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sknebel
indiepaper doesn't send a destination to you
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aaronpk
yes but indiepaper doesn't do t hat right now
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aaronpk
right now it uses scope for that
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GWG
aaronpk: Then why does it say it does in the developer documentation?
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GWG
On the site itself. Is it aspirational?
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sknebel
that's how you send it posts
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sknebel
you make a MP reuqest with mp-destination to indiepaper
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sknebel
indiepaper then extracts the text from the page
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GWG
The example shows aperture
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sknebel
and makes a normal MP request to aperture
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aaronpk
yeah what it's showing is its own non-standard API
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sknebel
yes, aperture as the destination
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GWG
I'm taking this backward
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GWG
Then I may have to do it the other way
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GWG
By client_id
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aaronpk
that is not the standard use of mp-destination. it should have probably called it something else to avoid confusion
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GWG
aaronpk: Then that is why I'm confused
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[jgmac1106]
Okay so I through the webmention badge into a parser and you get everything you need from a regular badge: https://ruby.microformats.io/microformats?utf8=%E2%9C%93&url=https%3A%2F%2Fedu-522.glitch.me%2Fmodule1badge.html I need to explicitly embed the criteria into a badge but an anchor link will do for now
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Loqi
[J. Gregory McVerry, PhD] Module 1: Who Am I Badge http://moneyflowcoaching.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/badge.png
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gRegorLove
Setting up unit tests for a Slim app is a bit tricky, at least the way I have it set now.
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KartikPrabhu
what is Slim?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "Slim" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Slim is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegorLove
Minimal PHP app framework; might not need a page for it. https://www.slimframework.com/
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gRegorLove
Quill, Teacup, and Indiebookclub use it though
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