#dev 2018-08-12

2018-08-12 UTC
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aaronpk payment << https://twitter.com/marcoarment/status/1028451747734409216
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/marcoarment/status/1028451747734409216" to the "See Also" section of /payment https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=50841&oldid=49416
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aaronparecki.com edited /payment (+177) "add Overcast example" (view diff)
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aaronpk adds that to Percolator
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aaronpk https://twitter.com/paulroub/status/1028366346554421250
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@paulroub @marcoarment A bonus with the show-notes approach, is that — with or without app support, with or without real=payment standardization — it’s still a working link. Creators could use it *today*, before a single app supports it. Simple, dumb, awesome HTML, succeeding like it always does… (twitter.com/_/status/1028366346554421250)
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robertvanbregt.nl edited /Grav (+72) "Added myself" (view diff)
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robertvanbregt.nl edited /Grav (+154) "Add reference to relme plugin" (view diff)
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@EdoPlantinga Webmentions kende ik nog niet, logisch en nuttig concept. Notificatie als iemand naar je site linkt. Via @Geebee (twitter.com/_/status/1028552864149516288)
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /site-deaths (+350) "/* Upcoming */" (view diff)
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Zegnat I just learned HTML checkboxes have a third “indeterminute” state :o
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Zegnat thought he knew most hooks and crannies of HTML
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vilhalmer it's for ones that represent a tree of items, right?
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Zegnat yes, that’s the usual usecase
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Zegnat Sadly it is a visual indication only. The HTML form itself only accepts checked and not-checked as states for the checkbox.
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vilhalmer I'm trying to thing if I've ever seen one used
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vilhalmer interesting
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Zegnat https://css-tricks.com/indeterminate-checkboxes/ shows it in use
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Zegnat It is taking shape :O https://wiki.zegnat.net/temp/interface.html
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Zegnat Need to figure out what to do with the “Store” label though. I am not sure I want the icon on its own.
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[cleverdevil] !tell [grantcodes] it looks like the image resizing updates in Together have broken a lot of images for me.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106] @zegnat Amazing!! Congrats. interesting UI choices using two different fonts in the top nav. though seems the the font for write matches the default text output....maybe you are putting in a drop down menu for 3=4? Most of my friends like font choice disambiguity...I just get so drawn to symmetry
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ Webmention is the more modern specification now as some have mentioned. I wrote a piece on it in @alistapart recently which includes some background and UI examples https://alistapart.com/article/webmentions-enabling-better-communication-on-the-internet It's part of an #IndieWeb suite of open protocols [more...] https://boffosocko.com/2018/08/12/reply-to-mariko-kosaka-on-rss-blogging-and-linkbacks/ (twitter.com/_/status/1028720594102042624)
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Zegnat I wouldn’t say I have chosen 2 fonts. I simply haven’t styled the “store” label yet
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Zegnat But I will probably have sans-serif UI elements and keep the textarea monospaced. I like writing in monospaced.
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boffosocko.com edited /archival_copy (+174) "/* Chris Aldrich */ Post Archival plugin" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Hm, Bridgy Instagram backfeed found recent comments but no likes, it seems
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[manton] [aaronpk] Does Mastodon not enforce the 500-character limit when reading ActivityPub feeds? I just noticed that one of your posts (about Xray, July 30th) is over 500.
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4vvxFgCG.jpg
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KartikPrabhu lol ^
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[manton] Haha.
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Zegnat I think I saw that mentioned in the Litepub discussion: Mastodons AP implementation does not limit incoming messages, they just have an (arbitrary) limit on notes written through their client implementation.
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[manton] @zegn
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[manton] Whoops. @Zegnat, thanks. That kind of makes sense, but now I wonder what it does with 2000-character posts. Hopefully it truncates at some point. (And if it truncates, why not at 500? Shrug.)
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: can Loqi be taught to handle this new spamming ^ ?
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sknebel !kick bigpet28
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sknebel I guess I could teach Kaja to do that, but that feels kinda stupid
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gregorlove.com edited /site-deaths (+81) "archive 2017 site-deaths" (view diff)
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[tantek] Gregorlove did you verify those sites had all actually shutdown?
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gRegorLove Yeah
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[tantek] Even better if there were citations in news about their shutdowns. Should be easy to find via their Wikipedia articles
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[tantek] Cool
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gregorlove.com edited /Delicious (+252) "note read-only mode" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /site-deaths (+54) "/* Microsoft Codeplex */ read-only archive link" (view diff)
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GWG I need an opinion from someone who uses PHP regularly
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GWG How do you check for an index in an array and return it if set, and return a default otherwise?
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aaronpk old version: (isset($foo['bar']) ? $foo['bar'] : $default)
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aaronpk new version: ($foo['bar'] ?? $default)
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GWG snarfed was commenting
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GWG About that
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aaronpk the new syntax is like 7.2 only tho
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GWG aaronpk: I know
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GWG snarfed was commenting that someone should have solve this problem
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GWG solved