#dev 2018-08-15
2018-08-15 UTC
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[jgarber] Issue 28 (https://github.com/aaronpk/webmention.rocks/issues/28) touches on the subject, but it’s not clear from the resolution that the issue pursued that particular case.
# [jgarber] Do any of the tests on https://webmention.rocks test endpoint discovery of relative URLs in `<link>` elements when the page also includes a `<base>` element?
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@rubygems webmention-cli (0.1.0): A command-line interface for Webmention. https://rubygems.org/gems/webmention-cli (twitter.com/_/status/1029562475375681536)
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@_joshdick ↩️ But where do I go from there? I can generate a Jekyll RSS feed for my posts and stick that on http://micro.blog, but if people reply (WebMention?) to me there, I'd still be replying back on http://micro.blog and not via a new Micropub Jekyll post? (2/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1029580083017785344)
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# @_joshdick ↩️ @voxpelli But where do I go from there? I can generate a Jekyll RSS feed for my posts and stick that on http://micro.blog , but if people reply (WebMention?) to me there, I'd still be replying back on http://micro.blog and not via a new Micropub Jekyll post? (2/2) (twitter.com/_/status/1029580423968550912)
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@manton2 ↩️ I'm not sure the best way to set it up for your blog, but you can post a reply on your site and send a Webmention to http://Micro.blog, which will then add your reply into the conversation. (If you do that, you probably want to exclude those replies from your feed.) (twitter.com/_/status/1029594611268894720)
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@EddieHinkle ↩️ That’s what I do. I reply on my website with a Micropub post, send a webmention to http://Micro.blog, and I have a custom feed called microblog.json (JSON Feed) that only provides the posts I want (no replies, etc). Replies in the feed would create… https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/08/15/8/reply/ (twitter.com/_/status/1029608289963794432)
# @_joshdick ↩️ Aweome. I have the basic building blocks for everything except webmentions working already, I guess integrating them with @voxpelli's libraries will be the next step. (twitter.com/_/status/1029609514545422336)
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sknebel another "decentralized" auth thing (/cc aaronpk) https://id4me.org/
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petermolnar anyone tried to build a blockchain based system for identity providing? (I'm not sarcastic, that might actually be a useful case, though keeping the private wallet "safe" is still an issue)
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@fake_api We’re needlessly sunsetting more stuff. Don’t worry about updating your apps. It’s not like we’ll allow them to exist much longer anyway. (twitter.com/_/status/727618727798263808)
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[kevinmarks] Blockchain based id systems abound. The notion that a private key is a better identity than a url is rather undermined by quite how much key theft bitcoin suffers from
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Zegnat https://www.grc.com/sqrl/sqrl.htm is an interesting ID system, if that's your thing to read about
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@ChrisAldrich I had a very short conversation at the IndieWeb Summit 2018 in Portland with @xolotl about the stickers on his laptop. Who knew he was such a subject area expert that @motherboard was using his material?
#creativecommons #Webmention #journalism #indieweb
https://boffosocko.com/2018/08/15/putting-stickers-on-your-laptop-is-probably-a-bad-security-idea-motherboard-vice/ (twitter.com/_/status/1029745016128692224)
# @ChrisAldrich If academics/publications used webmentions when they credited creative commons content, the originator would get a notification. This could also tip them off that their licensed content is being properly used.
#digped #openpedagogy #edtech
https://boffosocko.com/2018/08/15/putting-stickers-on-your-laptop-is-probably-a-bad-security-idea-motherboard-vice/ (twitter.com/_/status/1029746716302401536)
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peterstuifzand.nl created /Wrimini (+134) "Created page with " Wrimini is a Android client for Micropub. * The source code can be found on [https://github.com/pstuifzand/micropub-android Github]."" (view diff)
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pstuifzand what is wrimini?
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Loqi Wrimini is a Micropub client for Android https://indieweb.org/Wrimini
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[grantcodes] pstuifzand++
# [grantcodes] More apps! Awesome!
# [grantcodes] Happy to test if you're looking for that
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[jgmac1106] @pstuifzand happy to test on Android, I am on the P Beta channel if that is okay jgregmcverry@gmail.com
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boffosocko.com edited /silo-quits (+763) "Ezra J. Spier quiting Twitter because of the loss of 3rd party apps" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /stickers (+357) "tantek__ added "2018-08-14 Motherboard: [https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/pawvnk/stickers-on-laptop-operational-security-bad-idea Putting Stickers On Your Laptop Is Probably a Bad Security Idea] <blockquote>From border crossings to hacking co..." (view diff)
# Loqi I do not consent to the search of this device.
Thanks @eff for all that you do! https://skippy.net/images/2018/08/IMG_0680-960320.jpeg
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gRegorLove Yep, already experimenting a bit: https://gregorlove.com/channels/
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[eddie] I’m thinking about going that route as well. I think I want the approach to have two approaches: 1) automatic channel rules (if it has a photo, send it here. If it has a title and is not a reply, send it there, etc). 2) manually adding a post to a channel even if it doesn’t match the rules
# gRegorLove Don't think I'm going to make them top-level URLs; would take some refactoring
# gRegorLove Manual currently
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@schnarfed ↩️ as a last resort, you can always construct the bridgy source URL and send the webmention yourself! ugly, painful, i hate recommending it, but it does work. https://brid.gy/about#source-urls
eg in this case, try sending a webmention from https://brid.gy/comment/twitter/megarush1024/1029691332267257857/1029721636382154754 to https://www.arush.io/?p=94027 (twitter.com/_/status/1029779247961788416)
# gRegorLove My notes stream isn't a channel, so I'm thinking I will exclude certain channels from it, like Stars and Reading.
# gRegorLove I don't use micropub near enough. Only for reading posts, really. Yeah, if I used Quill I would probably automate it for stars and photos.
# gRegorLove Articles and Photos I manually post with the CMS; Notes + Stars I have a custom posting UI I use.
# gRegorLove The CMS editor is pretty good, generally. I wanted a front-end editor that also did some magic like prepare for Bridgy Publish, etc.
# snarfed mmm memories of https://snarfed.org/2015-11-29_keep-bridgy-publish-dumb
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# gRegorLove [eddie], I noticed on /p3k that aaronpk has channels as part of his authn endpoint
# gRegorLove I guess that doesn't show anything in the mp client though
# gRegorLove Gotcha
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# [eddie] Right now I have a syndication target called Micro.blog that when that syndication target is selected, it’s put into a specific JSON feed. I think that is an early version of what I’m wanting to do with my channels. Essentially I want to turn my “Micro.blog” syndication into a “Timeline” channel, which would be essentially my best guess at posts that would most interest people. But then, of course there will be automated channels for
# gRegorLove I <3 ol' dumb Bridgy :)
# gRegorLove (got cut off [eddie], but I get the gist)
# gRegorLove Sounds like a good plan
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# pstuifzand jgmac1106, I added your email address to the alpha testers list
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# [grantcodes] If I am receiving webmentions should I check the in-reply-to, like-of etc, matches the target before saving it?
# [grantcodes] I think so, someone could reply to another post and link to your site
# [grantcodes] Yep, what would be the mf2 for that?
# [grantcodes] A response that is not a like, repost or reply
# [grantcodes] Hmm so doesn't count as p-comment
# [grantcodes] Yeah
# [grantcodes] I think it would be called a mention, if it's not a direct reply. To the wiki!
# [grantcodes] What is mention?
# Loqi A mention is a post which links to another post without explicitly being in response to it https://indieweb.org/mention
# [grantcodes] Should've known aaronpk would have an example somewhere 😛
# [grantcodes] That example is still marked up with p-comment, doesn't feel right to me, since it is not a direct reply
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KartikPrabhu what is comment?
# Loqi A comment is a reply syndicated into the context of the original post https://indieweb.org/comment
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@megarush1024 Current status: Collecting orphaned webmentions and attaching them to posts, because fuck you Twitter you will not win. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1029809383042174976)
# [grantcodes] Thanks tantek Says "add it to the "Related Articles" or "Mentions"" but no example of how to mark it up
# KartikPrabhu [grantcodes]: is there some consuming use-case for the markup?
# [grantcodes] KartikPrabhu: Probably not. More for my backend storage trying to keep it as close to mf2 json as possible.
# [grantcodes] I'm leaning to either mention or response
# KartikPrabhu \o/
# KartikPrabhu :|
# [grantcodes] In my case I think I will categorise responses into comment, like and repost, then everything else is a mention
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# snarfed1 correct
# gRegorLove lol
# [grantcodes] Haha it seems I have led everyone onto a minefield I didn't know existed
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# gRegorLove [eddie] are you still doing the Mailchimp newsletters from your feeds? That's part of the reason I'm setting up channels.
# gRegorLove Wondered if it's still working well for you
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# [kevinmarks] You could help out with this oh. by the way, i should mention the other fediverse thingy i'm cooking up, that isn't pleroma.
# [kevinmarks] i don't have a name for it yet, but it's basically a self-hosted blogging platform with tumblr features. it will support both activitypub and indieweb for federation, though.
# [kevinmarks] i intend to use this to replace my current website. https://pleroma.site/objects/304cb9b1-72bc-4916-93de-94cd9d6bd2fa
# [kevinmarks] Hm, I didn't realise that mastodon copied to body as well as the link
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[cleverdevil] Hey, [aaronpk], I've been invited to speak at the AWS Summit in Anaheim next week, and I'll be talking about my location tracking service that uses Overland. Thought you might like to know!
# [cleverdevil] Oh, will do!
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# gRegorLove Can you pull feeds into separate sections, e.g. articles in main content, a sidebar of likes.
# gRegorLove Ah, so limited to one RSS feed per campaign
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# gRegorLove I might try something more like TWII. I'd like to split up content types a bit.
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@salgharita_ ↩️ @rubendetores Bueeeeeno, pois entón confórmome cun Kas e unhas aceitunas (pero só pola microsubárea) (twitter.com/_/status/1029862279582547968)
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