#dev 2018-09-13

2018-09-13 UTC
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tantek__
looking. though I would have thought I saved my badge somewhere. was it a sticker? a roll of stickers?
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aaronpk
odd, I can't find my badge either
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aaronparecki.com
edited /pronoun (+276) "/* Pronoun Badges */"
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aaronparecki.com
created /conduct (+28) "better short URL"
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aaronparecki.com
edited /pronoun (+199) "/* IndieWebCamp pronouns pins */"
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mayo
aaronpk: I was trying to figure out the point of including user IDs in the aperture microsub URLs (eg. /microsub/34). When a request comes in to /microsub/34, user id 34 is looked up in db, token is verified at the token endpoint, and me URLs are compared. My approach was to validate token, get the me URL, lookup user in db by their me URL (its hash, actually). Am I missing something security wise? Or just a case of different approach?
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mayo
aaronpk: I suppose DoS on my /microsub would propagate requests at the token server, but so would attach on /microsub/34
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aaronpk
mayo: for a single user system there's no need for user IDs in the Microsub URL. But for Aperture, a request comes in with a token to the Microsub endpoint, and Aperture doesn't know how to validate the token since it was created by someone's own token endpoint. So it looks up the token endpoint in the DB given the user ID in the Microsub url and validates the token there
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aaronpk
In your description, the step "validate the token and then get the 'me' URL" isn't possible because Aperture doesn't have any way to validate a token it hasn't seen before.
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mayo
aaronpk: ah right, doh! I totally missed that.
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mayo
aaronpk: I (mistakenly) assumed indieauth token endpoint was required because of the example in the docs. But of course that’s just a quick start to get people going.
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aaronpk
IndieAuth.com? Yeah that's the QuickStart version
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aaronpk
whoa why does autocorrect capitalize QuickStart
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mayo
aaronpk: all makes sense now. Thank you! :)
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mayo
and yeah, that autocorrect is weird
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david.shanske.com
edited /chat-names (+55) "/* Nicknames */"
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@niklas_jordan
We need a comment system that does justice to the web! https://www.niklasjordan.com/blog/webmentions #IndieWeb
(twitter.com/_/status/1040208113968791553)
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@jgmac1106
↩️ welcome @niklas_jordan feel free to ask for help or stop by the @wordpress room in #IndieWeb chat…but yeah webmentions are awesome. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/6722-2/)
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[keithjgrant]
Oh man, Cloudinary is fantastic for image optimization. I can now use micropub to post images from my phone without feeling guilty about the uncompressed 12MP filesize
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aaronparecki.com
edited /pronoun (+264) "update info on indieweb pronoun buttons"
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aaronparecki.com
uploaded /File:lwtsummit-pronoun-pins.jpg "https://twitter.com/lesbiantech/status/1039568221085556742 https://indieweb.org/File:lwtsummit-pronoun-pins.jpg"
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aaronparecki.com
edited /pronoun (+402) "/* Pronoun Badges */ add more examples"
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jeremycherfas
!tell cweiske Do you have an example of the shpub command to create a bookmark?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jeremycherfas
Nm; I think I can figure it out from the help. Forgot that was there.
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Loqi
cweiske: jeremycherfas left you a message 5 minutes ago: Do you have an example of the shpub command to create a bookmark?
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jeremycherfas
FYI cweiske when I include the --html option I got an error Unknown option "--html" but that option is given in the help for bookmark
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cweiske
what's the full command?
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@ChrisAldrich
↩️ Your comic reminds me of a line I wrote a few months back in an article about the IndieWeb idea of Webmentions for A List Apart entitled Webmentions: Enabling Better Communication on the Internet: https://boffosocko.com/2018/09/13/reply-to-equity-unbound-webcomic-splintered-digital-identities-kevin-hodgson/
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@jgmac1106
I still think we can figure out a badging system using webmentions. That is going to be my itch to scratch for @IndieWebCamp NYC. Roll up a system for sending and receiving into my #IndieWeb course template I have been working on https://indiewebcoursetemplate.glitch.me/ (http://jgregorymcverry.com/6754-2/)
(twitter.com/_/status/1040301385785516033)
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jeremycherfas
!tell cweiske I'm just stopping for supper. Can I pick this up again tomorrow?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek.com
edited /pronoun (+31) "/* IndieWebCamp pronouns pins */ details on other methods"
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tantek.com
edited /event (+1587) "/* Markup design */ How to Markup in feed file brainstorm"
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tantek.com
edited /event (+118) "/* Markup in feed file */ <nowiki>, only child"
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[eddie]
!tell aaronpk With Moves no longer existing, how much would you like to make Overland be a Moves replacement? There are a couple ideas that come to mind and I'm not sure if they belong in Overland or a separate app.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[eddie]
First is the timeline. It would be awesome to be able to see a timeline similar to moves of your day and the different types of transportation and how long you were sitting in one location. That would involve using the read API from a server with Compass' interface
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[eddie]
The second would be defining the locations where you stopped along the way. That would get more involved as that would require venue searching and Micropub as opposed to just Compass' API Interface. So this second one definitely starts to tread on other app territory, but it seems like it would be great to have one app that could completely replace Moves' functionality. The places could do a Micropub query to get checkins for the day and when ad
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[eddie]
where you were, it could then do Micropub create or updates
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aaronpk
with Moves no longer around, it is certainly tempting to expand the functionality
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Loqi
aaronpk: [eddie] left you a message 9 minutes ago: With Moves no longer existing, how much would you like to make Overland be a Moves replacement? There are a couple ideas that come to mind and I'm not sure if they belong in Overland or a separate app.
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aaronpk
the big thing for me is i'm not an iOS developer by any stretch of the imagination, so all the UI work needed for that is way beyond something I can do myself
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aaronpk
I'd also be inclined to completely rethink the model of how that works if we were to start trying to replace Moves' timeline view, like storing the data in icloud rather than on a separate server, so that it's more self-contained and relies less on other software
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aaronpk
people keep asking me for other export options too, like writing to google sheets or saving to dropbox, since they don't have the expertise required to set up a server like Compass for it
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[eddie]
That makes sense. I guess the question is how do you get the data out? Different export options?
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aaronpk
not sure yet. i'm definitely open to discussion on this especially if you're volunteering to help out with the iOS side of things :)
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aaronpk
but we should probably move the discussion elsewhere since it's kind of beyond the scope of indieweb stuff
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[eddie]
that's true 🙂
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[eddie]
But, in answer to volunteering yes. 🙂 Behind Indigenous for interacting with my website, tracking my location and checkins is my second priority, so Overland and anything that can track where and what I'm doing is a big priority for my time and effort
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[eddie]
For further conversation, should we just open up an issue on Overland and if the discussion spins into something else, that would allow a future project to reference that GH ticket?
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aaronpk
That sounds good for now
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[eddie]
:thumbsup:
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GWG
eddie, when you solve iOS issues for location, can you solve for Android too?
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[keithjgrant]
Why is my Heroku app throwing cert errors when trying to send WMs to brid.gy?
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[keithjgrant]
Or does 'unable to get local issuer certificate' mean something else?