#dev 2018-09-16

2018-09-16 UTC
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loqi.me created /PixelFed (+103) "prompted by [asuh] and dfn added by [asuh]" (view diff)
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torkil7 Аllah iѕ doiᥒg
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[jgmac1106] when I add a blogger site to aperture I am given the choice of a microformats feed. Should I assume that is mf1 and I shoudl choose rss?
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sknebel if I remember right the mf1 on blogger is done properly, so it probably doesn't really matter which you use
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[jgmac1106] thx
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jeremycherfas I'm reading a geojson file and everything works fine, but I get an error XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
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jeremycherfas Line Number 1, Column : which of course is the very beginning of the file. And yet it seems to parse just fine. Anything I can do? Any need to worry?
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Zegnat well-formed means something very specific in XML parlance. But if your parser handled the file, don't worry about it.
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Zegnat If you are the person producing the file in the first place, you may want to look into producing better XML
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jeremycherfas Thanks zegnat. You flatter me ...
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jeremycherfas It is actually a geoJSON file, so not sure why XML even matters.
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sknebel XML error when parsing *JSON* seems odd
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jeremycherfas I'm at the blindly copy paste and try to work out what is going on stage.
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jeremycherfas This is what I'm doing `$.getJSON("./early.json", function(data)`
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jeremycherfas And then a bunch of stuff to create a geojson object
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Zegnat Oh. Who knows what jQuery is doing on getJSON.
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@jgmac1106 @Xtof @hugo  Ha! I am no developer either. Just sharing some of the tools and history. Webmention Issue on GitHub and Bridgy Fed (http://jgregorymcverry.com/6860-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1041309253598957573)
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Zegnat throws up a somebody else's problem field.
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jeremycherfas Not me, obvs
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vilhalmer jquery does some weird stuff to try to emulate an xhr object for all requests that pass through $.ajax so it's possible it tries to unconditionally read as xml to see if it can extract some properties
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Zegnat http://youmightnotneedjquery.com/#json ? 😇
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jeremycherfas Would that be a good thing zegnat?
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jeremycherfas Let me test it anyway.
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jeremycherfas Zegnat I am a bit lost, because although the alternative appears to read the file (it gives the same malformed error) I cannot seem to find the contents of `var = data`
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jeremycherfas Which means that the next part `var geojson = L.geoJson(data, {});` fails.
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jeremycherfas Must be doing something wrong.
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jeremycherfas So until I have a much better understanding of javascript, I think I need to bumble along the way I am going.
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vilhalmer jquery is a handy tool, but in my experience it will prevent you from getting that understanding because it's too magic
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vilhalmer (not saying to drop it for this particular project necessarily, just that exploring outside of it is good)
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jeremycherfas I'm sure you are right. For now, I would like to get something that works, and then when I have that, learn more so I can simplify it.
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vilhalmer +1
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[kevinmarks] You might like http://lea.verou.me/2015/12/introducing-bliss-a-3kb-library-for-happier-vanilla-js/
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jeremycherfas I might ... Later (bookmarked)
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Zegnat sorry, was doing the dishes. That piece of code on youmightnotneedjquery should be a drop-in replacement for getJSON, yes, and should work in your case (I think).
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Zegnat I would recommend something like that over jQuery because it makes it easier to go back later and learn what is happening behind the scenes. Diving into jQuery source code is no fun.
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sknebel does the browser console show any errors?
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[kevinmarks] [Tom_Morris] see also https://github.com/ChristopherA/LifeWithAlacrityBlog/tree/master/blog/themes/indie-tufte
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@FormationXtof ↩️ l'implémentation des webmentions sur l'instance. Sujet ouvert avec @hugo@masto.pt l'hébergeur de cette instance et qui nous a rejoint sur le canal officiel de discussion #indieweb @hugo@masto.pt nous a rappelé que Mastodon ne supporte pas (2/3) (twitter.com/_/status/1041325449568182272)
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Zegnat sknebel, interesting idea in #indieweb. How easy would it be to subscribe to all toots of an instance and handle WM sending? As an external party?
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[jgmac1106] @zegnat I am not picking up any feeds from: https://licit.li/
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Zegnat Define “picking up any feeds”
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[jgmac1106] I added the link to aperture it said no feeds found
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[jgmac1106] I tried the same thing in inoreader
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Zegnat Aperture doesn’t support licit.li
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[jgmac1106] ohh okay
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Zegnat Innoreader does not support h-feed.
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[jgmac1106] do you syndicate anywhere I can follow?
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Zegnat (Whether Inoreader supports licit.li I can’t say. Probably not.)
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Zegnat I don’t syndicate. But I also do not currently have the ability to post. So you aren’t missing anything.
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[jgmac1106] still working on the writing UI?
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Zegnat Yes. But had to drop the work on it as some offline tasks came up.
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vilhalmer seems like the easiest way to get all toots would be to implement the federation protocol and just appear to have zero users so there's nothing that needs to go the other way
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Zegnat You could try selfhosting Aperture and updating its fetching code to gain the ability to subscribe to licit.li, [jgmac1106] ;) Nice challenge on the ownyourdata front
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vilhalmer (or maybe one user who follows everyone? not sure)
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[jgmac1106] ...or you could add a mf or rss feed
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Zegnat It already has the h-feed, [jgmac1106]
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Zegnat It is the fetching code that just isn’t compatible with my website
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Zegnat Not a mf2 or parsing issue
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[jgmac1106] okay thx, looking forward to adding you when your UI is finished
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Zegnat vilhalmer, I thought Mastodon implemented AP so it would only send toots to followers’ inboxes? So the listening code would have to somehow subscribe to every single user on an instance?
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vilhalmer I thought AP was a "secondary" protocol and there was some more mastodon-specific protocol as well
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vilhalmer but I don't know details of that so it may still be the case
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sknebel you can just query the timeline through the API, no need for any federation
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[jgmac1106] @vilhamer I do that with jgmac1106@jgregorymcverry.com never thought people could just follow my account and they have a feed of my stuff
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sknebel (assuming you mean the "see everything from a specific instance" thing I mentioned in the main channel)
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vilhalmer yeah
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vilhalmer query would be polling though, right?
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sknebel probably
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Zegnat Polling isn’t disasterous. Just means WMs aren’t going to be in real time
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Zegnat In fact, having a slight slow down on WMs might be good as a DoS counter
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vilhalmer good point
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Zegnat Might be an interesting IWC thing :)
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[jgmac1106] @aarronpk looking at aperture makes me wonder how "public" channels would be so I could share mine
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[kevinmarks] If you use unmung.com/mastoview you get an h-feed for an instance, but it is only most recent 20
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Zegnat [kevinmarks], that sounds like I would have to poll it way too often on an active instance if I don’t want to miss tings
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jeremycherfas https://www.jeremycherfas.net/walks/mapping-test
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Loqi [Jeremy Cherfas] Mapping from external JSON
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jeremycherfas Happy-ish. Need to reduce the amount of hard coding and use variables instead. Also need to see whether I can get that drop in replacement from zegnat to work.
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[jgmac1106] @sknebel yeah I am basing my expectation of how I want Mastodon to work based on my experience with bridgy and twitter, i can keep tweets threaded on Twitter and and webmentions threaded on my blog
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GWG swentel++
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Loqi swentel has 5 karma in this channel over the last year (14 in all channels)
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GWG swentel: Works perfectly now
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swentel awesome :)
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swentel GWG, are you planning to add q=source in the micropub plugin ?
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swentel I've added basic post update support now in indigenous and drupal plugin
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swentel If I could get a list of posts with some basic filtering out, I can more or less control my site
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GWG swentel, it is already in
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GWG snarfed added it in a while back and I haven't touched it lately
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swentel GWG, oh, so, it should return a list of posts on q=source ?
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GWG List, no.
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swentel ah only properties of a url
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GWG Yes
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swentel that's good to test from as well
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GWG I might add post lists in a future update
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GWG But now, I really want to figure out why some people can't log in
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GWG It's why I haven't pushed it
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GWG Although the current version has at least as much success as the old one
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GWG Not sure that is a good criteria
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swentel heh
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swentel but it seems more related to the indieauth plugin if I'm reading the issues right
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GWG Hard to say
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GWG The Indieauth plugin says it got the token but didn't log them in
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GWG Stumped
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swentel hmm, very weird indeed
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@pstuifzand Because of the interfaces in Go it was really easy to connect HTTP microsub frontend of Ekster to the client part of Ek to build a Microsub proxy. That way all API calls of the reader can be passed without CORS headers through the proxy to your own Microsub server. (twitter.com/_/status/1041389137998348290)
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GWG I need to do some tests on jackjamieson's WordPress Microsub stuff as well
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[kevinmarks] The mf1 on blogger was done right à décade ago, but if people have custom templates it can go awry. Also, if they use the js;dr templates you will need to fetch it with an extra param to get the static version iirc
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