#dev 2018-09-23

2018-09-23 UTC
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jacky yo aaronpk my bad
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jacky I was poking around with your site re: indieauth
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jacky I think I might have triggered a login request >_<
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Zegnat !tell snarfed Yeah I knew about the Telegraph-webhook-feature. I was just specifically looking at Mastodon now :) Thought different weekend plans came up so the webmention bridge is getting slightly delayed.
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Loqi Zegnat: [eddie] left you a message 1 day, 6 hours ago: I’m the proud poster child of Fatwigoo 🙂
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Zegnat [eddie]++ Haha, well, every cause needs a figure head. Might as well be Fatwigoo’s! ;)
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Loqi [eddie] has 43 karma in this channel over the last year (63 in all channels)
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Zegnat !tell [kevinmarks] Should mention.tech really display a green checkmark when the endpoint returned a "500" status? Wouldn’t that imply the mention failed?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106] This seems interesting and kind of what I want the CMS but where I have full control of front end https://indieweb.org/Perch
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[kevinmarks] I should look at that
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[kevinmarks] The green checkmark means that it verified the mention itself, but that is unclear, yes.
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Zegnat Ah, alright!
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Loqi yea
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[kevinmarks] It won't send it if it doesn't verify iirc
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Zegnat I think verifying is a double-edged sword. A delete mention will never verify but still has meaning for the receiving party. (I think Telegraph doesn’t even let you send those.)
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[kevinmarks] I should revisit that, I wrote it before webmention.rocks existed
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@jgmac1106 Think  social readers  been using lately, combined with webmentions, are missing piece for many. Wanted to record a demo but have a house full of kids from a sleepover, am using Aperture and Indigenous reading/writing & mobile space unified. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7308-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1043860422544248832)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I didn’t get to use a social reader when teaching  yet but I was able to try a webmention empowered classroom. Saw huge potential as ways to track growth and find natural assessments. Find @chrisalrdich’s #edu522 feed. Check it out. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7311-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1043861366002647041)
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jeremycherfas Zegnat Any idea why my Nanopub and shpub might suddenly have started to give me a 500 when I try to post. Only change was to update MAMP.
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jeremycherfas I may try and reverse that to check, but in the meantime, cannot think where it would come from.
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Zegnat Not sure. Maybe it started eating the authorization header after the update and you need the WordPress htaccess fix?
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jeremycherfas Ah. Maybe change of MAMP changed details for shpub, which no longer recognises localhost as servername
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jeremycherfas Locally?
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jeremycherfas Let me try restoring shpub first.
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jeremycherfas Nope, that's not it.
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Zegnat No. I mean Apache is removing the authorization header.
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jeremycherfas Is there a direct test for that?
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Zegnat https://gist.github.com/Zegnat/f4192c3cce05d847af3547eea80e383c
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jeremycherfas Any path, or under offlinepub.test, which is where I am doing all this?
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Zegnat Put it wherever you are sending the requests to
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jeremycherfas OK.
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Zegnat So under offlinepub.test should be fine.
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Zegnat (Sorry, bit short on the answers. On phone.)
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jeremycherfas No problem.
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jeremycherfas But I do have problems. Haha.
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Zegnat Did you get my diagnostic tool to work?
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jeremycherfas Yes. And then added the htaccess file and that changed availability of $_SERVER['HTTP_AUTHORIZATION']
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jeremycherfas But I still get the 500 error.
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jeremycherfas I put the htaccess under offline-pub-test, which is where the endpoint is, because I think it applies to all nested paths.
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jeremycherfas Re-checked shpub, and all seems OK for the various endpoints.
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jeremycherfas I think I had better take a break until tomorrow when Christian may be online.
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sknebel that doesn't really sound like a shpub specific issue
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sknebel do you get any log files with that setup you could check?
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jeremycherfas I'll have a look now.
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Zegnat Happy to hear the diagnostics worked, sad that the htaccess fix is still required.
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jeremycherfas You genius sknebel. For some reason, I always expect PHP errors to tell me what's happening and they don't when I am using the Terminal.
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jeremycherfas I had used => instead of ->
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jeremycherfas Let me try again.
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jeremycherfas That was it! Currently tearing my hair out at my own stupidity.
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Zegnat Woops!
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jeremycherfas Sknebel++
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Loqi Sknebel has 29 karma in this channel over the last year (81 in all channels)
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jeremycherfas I suppose the fact that the variable was red should have alerted me :)
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[schmarty] [eddie] indigenous beta has expired 😭
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[schmarty] Oh lol I missed an update. It will expire in 6 days. 😂
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[eddie] lol 😆
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[eddie] Looks like I have 6 days to finish the next build
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[eddie] I know what I’m working on this week
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GWG Zegnat, I borrowed your auth diag script
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Zegnat Borrow all you want, GWG. No sense in doing the same research twice. Consider it public domain.
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GWG I included it in Indieauth
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GWG the WordPress plugin, to see if people can diagnose it
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Zegnat I think I've seen that ... Was I tagged on the PR or something? Either way, let's hope it leads to us getting less questions!
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GWG Zegnat: I did tag you, yes
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jeremycherfas Got myself into a terrible git dev mess that I could not seem to back out of. May need to accept failure and start again. At least I know what I was trying to do. No shame in just torching the branch.
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aaronpk sometimes when I get into a git state that I don't understand, I just archive that folder somewhere, check out the project from scratch, and manually copy select files back that I changed
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strugee aaronpk: I did that for the *longest* time
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Loqi strugee: [eddie] left you a message on 2018-07-13 at 10:07pm UTC: So far https://github.com/strugee/node-send-webmention#readme has been working great for sending webmentions, but I can’t figure out how to get the response url back when I use it to send a webmention to bridgy
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strugee eventually I just inhaled Pro Git and that helped
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strugee !tell [eddie] whoops... only just saw your message, so sorry! if you still need help can you file a bug on GitHub?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[kevinmarks] sounds right: https://xkcd.com/1597/
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Loqi [XKCD] Git https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/git_2x.png
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strugee git has terrible UX, Mercurial AFAICT gets this mostly right
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strugee it's taken me like 4 years to find a decent way to teach git and even then I can't always do it because it takes forever