#dev 2018-09-28

2018-09-28 UTC
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Zegnat
So ... are we just building Mastodon AP bridges now by carefully copying JSON bodies from swentel’s bridgy fed issues? This really doesn’t sound like a stable API in any way, hahaha
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Loqi
Zegnat: lol
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jgmac1106
[petermolnar] wanna take this journey with me: https://perchrunway.com/
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jgmac1106
already has native webmentions, an WP importer, have to write the templates but that is awsoem as we can ensure the correct markup for post types and use sme experimental post types
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jgmac1106
I am considering that for my WordPress exit strategy…or throwing up a few static pages and using Known as my social stream
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petermolnar
> MySQL 5.0
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petermolnar
that's not really a gain for me
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petermolnar
that's the main part I'd want to avoid
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petermolnar
SQLite would be ok, but PHP doesn't play nice with SQLite for obvious reasons of how it works
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petermolnar
I'd love to see a native desktop GUI for jekyll
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petermolnar
that's solve so many things
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petermolnar
I've been mistyping d to s for a few days
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petermolnar
jeremycherfas: craft is also mysql based
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petermolnar
so far the only two reasonable choices seem to be jekyll with jekyll admin, which I still haven't tried, or grav, which is flat
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[kevinmarks]
how about hugo?
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petermolnar
hugo is weird; in theory, it would be fine with netlify or something similar, but hugo is near impossible to extend, if needed
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petermolnar
keep it in mind, in this case, I'm thinking of gen4 users
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[kevinmarks]
how so? the templates are pretty flexible
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petermolnar
maybe gen3
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petermolnar
templates are, yes, media handling, such as please don't remove iptc, exif, and xml from JPG is not
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[kevinmarks]
saw this one today, haven't looked in depth http://publ.beesbuzz.biz/ but the dev's site has lots of media
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petermolnar
the main problem is the lack of gui for all the static generators, one that could facilitate the whole flow of editing, preview, publish
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petermolnar
for gen3-4, that is essential
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petermolnar
the edit with notepad in markdown then commit to git is not an option :D
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[kevinmarks]
github makes it a bit easier but true.
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Loqi
[voxpelli] webpage-micropub-to-github: Self-hosteable Micropub endpoint that publishes to Jekyll by committing to GitHub
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petermolnar
the main problem is, these are not blogs; these are, in essence, oldschool static site for a service/small company/etc, or photographer portfolios
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petermolnar
so most static generators, which are heavily blog oriented, fall out of the question
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[kevinmarks]
so you end up in wix or squarespace?
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petermolnar
hell no, I'm just going to stick with wordpress and it's flexibility that comes at a massive performance cost
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petermolnar
if there's nothing else
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[kevinmarks]
wordpress does have all the template infrastructure for that
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jeremycherfas
For what it is worth, I really like Grav. And for someone like you, petermolnar it would probably be even better than it is for me.
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jeremycherfas
But I don't think there is an importer.
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petermolnar
there used to be when grav launched, I think it's unmaintained
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[kevinmarks]
it does feel like an indieweb approach would work there; it was one of the things Known was looking at before the education focus
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[kevinmarks]
having good POSSE support for keeping fb/insta/twitter updated too
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[kevinmarks]
maybe ownyourgram integration for the photo portfolio model
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petermolnar
jeremycherfas: before moving off WP, I took a deep look in grav; at that time, it used a weird thumbnail generator, which was GD only and thus stripped every metadata, including EXIF
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petermolnar
I wonder if it got imagick support since
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petermolnar
I know it was planned
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Zegnat
petermolnar what is the problem with PHP and Swlite?
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Zegnat
*Sqlite
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jacky
petermolnar: can you point me to a good Wordpress importing tool?
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jacky
more accurately, a solution that includes a good wordpress importing process
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jacky
s/good/accessible and low-barrier/g
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jeremycherfas
When Octopress (a front-end for Jekyll) was alive and well it had a rather good WP import. But I have seen nothing of it for a long time.
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jacky
ah, I remember Octopress
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jeremycherfas
Me too, quite fondly actually.
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petermolnar
jacky: I can't. I'm thinking hard, but a can't.
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jacky
no worries!
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petermolnar
Zegnat: php vs sqlite: because php is, in essence, one thread per call, there can be severe locking race conditions on sqlite write
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petermolnar
one of the reasons why the wordpress sqlite plugin was a disaster
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petermolnar
if it's read-only, it's perfectly fine
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Zegnat
But surely, on a static-ish site, most of the time you are dealing with reading only?
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jacky
if you use GitHub pages, this'll play nicely
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jacky
what is prose.io
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "prose.io" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "prose.io is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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petermolnar
Zegnat: the trouble comes when things like WP have overlapping commits to SQlite; to be honest, I've only experienced this, not just with wp, but with ordinary php applications as well. The trouble is the write.
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Zegnat
I haven’t really had issues with those writes. But I have mostly only worked with single writes on e.g. page update and those have very little conflict from other places
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sknebel
petermolnar: never seen a good photo thing
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sknebel
Even the dedicated web gallery software all feels off
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petermolnar
sknebel: completely agreed
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jeremycherfas
Great location tracking post petermolnar
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GWG
Which post was this?
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Loqi
[Peter Molnar] GPS tracking without a server
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GWG
petermolnar: Did you look at GPS Logger, it can do what you want...send a file.
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petermolnar
I think a did, a long while ago, and I dropped it
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petermolnar
but I can't recall the reason
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petermolnar
I might revisit again
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GWG
I am using a server
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GWG
But, I'm thinking of switching to it from what I'm using because it can do custom http calls.
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GWG
Zegnat: , authdiag is now bundled in the indieauth wordpress plugin
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Zegnat
I saw the merge go through in my email, GWG :) You know where to find me if something about it breaks, hahaha
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Loqi
hehe
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GWG
Hopefully it will help
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GWG
It's outside WP, which isimportasnt
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petermolnar
jeremycherfas: for got to say thank you
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petermolnar
so thank you
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jeremycherfas
No; thank you. I still have so much to learn.
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GWG
petermolnar: Missing altitudes?
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petermolnar
I had a lot of them, yes
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petermolnar
apparently it happens when you're using network/passive/etc location sources
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petermolnar
GPS has it
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GWG
petermolnar: How does it calculate it?
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aaronpk
GPS altitude is horribly inaccurate though
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petermolnar
certainly better, than NULL :D
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petermolnar
GWG in theory it's the same triangulation method as the location itself
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GWG
Is there a reference page for that API?
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[kevinmarks]
Depends how many satellites you have, also most phones give you a mix of GPS, mobile and WiFi
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GWG
Or other resources to calculate it?
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petermolnar
I deliberately set the phone to gps only
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petermolnar
GWG: hence the Bing API I used
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GWG
petermolnar: Exactly what I needed
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petermolnar
oh, that is very nice
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petermolnar
thank you
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GWG
Just stumbled
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Zegnat
It. It looks like I just broke my weight graph. Good thing I did that *after* showing it off
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jgmac1106
[zegnat] you interested in the activitypub session with the APIs you were working on?
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Zegnat
The Mastodon API I am targetting isn’t AP at all, so not relevant there, jgmac1106
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[kevinmarks]
did mastodon stop using websub? That was part of the OStatus stack
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GWG
Zegnat: , congratulations on your weight loss
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Zegnat
Haha, thanks GWG! I am in the process of updating the graph. Sadly the downwardstrend has stopped.
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GWG
Already did
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[kevinmarks]
I have a depressing weight graph that I probably shouldn't publish
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Zegnat
GWG, now the weight graph is actually up-to-date, and I fixed some of the JS idiosyncracies; https://vanderven.se/martijn/health/weight/
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Zegnat
[kevinmarks], I am just dipping my toes into the quantified self stuff
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[kevinmarks]
mine goes back to 2011 (with gaps)
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sknebel
Paging snarfed and swentel
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Zegnat
This is the right channel. I personally am not using fed.brid.gy, but there might be some people here who do
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Zegnat
Definitely put the answers here, no such thing as a potentially dumb one
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Zegnat
Well. You are touching the federated world, so that is quite possible ;)
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jgmac1106
[rose] what I do is make a tag so I can selectivley post to microblog
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@jgmac1106
Wow the new IndieAuth has a diagnostic script from Martiin. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7502-2/)
(twitter.com/_/status/1045723252184756224)
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Zegnat
jgmac1106 applying the 18th century spelling of my name :D
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jeremycherfas
In Italian, j is still called “long i”.
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@jgmac1106
↩️ @toolness you need to get to https://indieweb.org/2018/NYC @iamjessklein and a bunch of us are gonna play with the idea of badges through webmentions (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7498-2/)
(twitter.com/_/status/1045738483166433280)
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@oldaily
http://IndieAuth.com: Sign in with your domain name #oldaily https://www.downes.ca/post/68650 It's a bit complex but it's simpler than OpenID was. I'm still looking into it.
(twitter.com/_/status/1045761181561098240)
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@oldaily
Aperture #oldaily https://www.downes.ca/post/68653 Think of it as like a reader for microcontent. " Aperture is a Microsub server. Microsub is a spec that provides a standardized way for reader apps to interact with feeds.
(twitter.com/_/status/1045763859800313856)
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@grantpotter
#IndieAuth is a protocol that lets your website be its own identity while supporting OAuth 2.0. https://indielogin.com/
(twitter.com/_/status/1045778578384678912)
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gRegorLove
what is Publ?
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gRegorLove
what is Publ?
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Loqi
Publ is a Python based command line client being built by Harry Reeder https://indieweb.org/publ
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Loqi
[fluffy-critter] Publ: Flexible publishing system for the web
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gRegorLove
I think it's the same. That github is linked from the faq
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gRegorLove
That's a great domain, http://beesbuzz.biz
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