AngeloGladdingeither way i'm grabbing the one of the three that isn't suffixed with "/error" and sending the same mention there that i've been sending to the others
jgmac1106@zegnat or anyone looking to add to their resume, vita or GitHub logs. . This ain’t meant to be Tom Sawyering at all, but you may want to help build the webmention platforms, especially if you see academic CS in your immediate or current future. Downes has way more street cred then me, having a few commits or prototypes in your portfolio wouldnt be bad career move
jgmac1106the other approach…and for some reason I like this…but I don’t know why. I do in like EDU 522 where they do activity and then write an application badge
jgmac1106as we are doing this, I Stephen, and whomevever in the class will build a micropub badge creator..probably php as GRSShopper is all perl modules, and Reclaim is going to make install instant.
jgmac1106, where I pop in the learning activity, it parses instructor h-card, link to activity, and criteria. There is an svg badge maker included. It spits out an html file that includes links to img, blank space for learner name, blank space for link to learner post, plus a link to a “ledger”
jgmac1106hit a button and this and a micropub client publishes the badge post with the learner name and evidence fields not parsed and filled in. Learner and the the ledger recieve webmention badge will be issued
[jgmac1106]so I have been chewing on the question of post types versus post type discovery as I think about my migration plans....probably will just archive my current blog to keep life easy peasy
@jgmac1106Finally realized why educators fell in love with Google+ It was webmentions before we knew what webmentions were.
We all had GAFE, we all had Hangouts, we all used Blogger.
I posted on my blog and it went to my network. Someone commented on my network… https://jgregorymcverry.com/7847-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1050233941511290881)
@jgmac1106Webmentions (well network mentions) were a cool part. Blogger only way to get write access to Google+ but the other tools made UX great.
Hangouts, HoA for chat and video, gDocs for writing, gSites for the web. We had everything in different places all… https://jgregorymcverry.com/7849-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1050335093875765248)
[jgmac1106]But we were all amazed when you added G+ comments and you had conversations across so many circles pulled back to your blog. For people with nascent tech skills it was amazing
[jgmac1106]@swentel at [eddie] noticed issue closed about trying to get reply tweets on Indigenous syndicated to Twitter to thread. Is there anything I can do on my end to make it happen?
Loqi[EdwardHinkle] @jgmac1106 The proper way for this is actually to just have the Micropub server automatically syndicate posts to Twitter. For example, my website pings brid.gy on every reply post. Brid.gy then will check the post I am replying to in order to see if ...
[eddie]I know your Wordpress doesn’t work well with Bridgy because of the issues with sending Webmentions (if I remember correctly) so that’s tricky 😕 but getting a website that works with Bridgy for Twitter syndication is probably the smoothest path forward
[jgmac1106]Nope on the way, I had to ask for a dev app from Twitter since Known stripped away convoy, still waiting and waiting... But leaning towards Known..but everyone talking about data storage and post type templates has me doubting
ZegnatAlso note, [jgmac1106], that the things we get all heated about w.r.t. Known’s db structure and such is highly arbitrary. I think you should look at UX more than some of our peculiar data storage preferences
[jgmac1106]yeah for me it was do I try to learn how to spin up my own, but I would need 2 months of learning and building time, not something during academic year. so it was Known or micro.blog and Known offers more post types that I want, especially bookmarks
ZegnatAh. So it is true that if [jgmac1106] posts from Indigenous and marks said post for Twitter syndication, that is doesn’t get picked up? Good to know!
[jgmac1106]@sknebel, sorry, I copy a a lik to a tweet, I open indigenous, select reply and post in link to tweet, I publish, the post is a correct reply on my site but it is not a reply to the tweet on Twitter
[eddie]jgmac1106 yeah I wouldn’t worry too much about Known’s database. It’s worked well for [cleverdevil] for a long time. At some point you might want to move on, but I think moving to Known gets you a lot of what you want with easy of use
jgmac1106[eddie] I have like 46 different Known blogs going right now, very familiar…just reading the anti-pattern and the opost discovery page scared me as its pretty clear which direction we want folks goin gin
jgmac1106yeah my biggest worry is broken links, not sure if I should try to import all my post using WordPress Known plugin, very worried about comments and permalinks all over the web, how do folks handle large platform switch, not too much data just over 2 gigs
ZegnatI think petermolnar has a text file mapping old URLs to new URLs and just redirecting. Which is a good way to handle it. Not sure if you can easily generate one of those
[eddie]When I had to do a migration that’s what I did. An old to new url mapping. But I control of the web server (nginx) to be able to set that up outside of software
[eddie]It’s nice though. Because now I just have a file I give to my web server and it handles redirecting people and my CMS can just worry about current sites
petermolnarit is ok in nginx if it's a one-off, given that nginx can include, but it'll get tricky with apparmor/selinux and to reload automatically if the config changes
ZegnatYep. But grav can probably do it too. I expect it routes all nonresolving URLs to its pwn router/index and then finds the page it needs to serve. If it finds nothing, Grav probably serves some 404 page. You'd want to run your redirector right before grab serves a 404
jgmac1106I was thinking I could just create archive.jgregorymcverry.com and use a find/replace to change every link for my site, and then figure out the redirects…will try the WP->Known importer as well
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jeremycherfasWhen I moved from Octopress to Grav, I made an htaccess redirect that swaps out the first part of the requested URL because all the slugs stayed the same. But because I haven't moved all the posts over, if you look for something from a link elsewhere, you get a 404 from the new CMS.
jeremycherfasI decided not to attempt to separate out the two kinds of "not found". Not found because it isn't here, vs not found because Jeremy is lazy.
petermolnar!tell aaronpk do you keep logs of webhook requests for webmention.io? I set it up a while ago to send notifications with it, but some time ago it seem to have stopped sending. I've added some debug logging to see whenever another happenes if it's my side or webmention.io, but it'd be easier with logs from the other side.
Zegnat[jgmac1106], PTD is to assign a label to web content. “Is this a note?” “Is this a photo?” Etc. It derives these labels from the data that is at hand.
jeremycherfas!tell jgmac1106 Yes. That's the point, You could use a similar heuristic. Has it got lots of words, relative to pictures? Then it is not a photo post. Has it got lots of pictures, relative to words? Then it is a photo post. But the argument seems to be that it is best left to post discovery to decide. At least, that's how I see it.
ZegnatBut at the same time, you as publisher do not need to know about the ins and outs of post type discovery. You can just go and publish your thing and let software like readers figure out by themselves
ZegnatCurrently PTD says that something is a photo post if the publisher has marked up a photo specifically. So if you are just putting images into a text post, there is no reason why that would become a photo post.
jgmac1106will catch up off to work, ended up hanging with [eddie] a lot longer than I thought, but realized three things got me here open pedagogy ands moocs, Mozilla, and podcasts wityh [Kevinmarks] and gina Tripani (not same showsO through the yearsz
Loqijgmac1106: jeremycherfas left you a message 6 minutes ago: Yes. That's the point, You could use a similar heuristic. Has it got lots of words, relative to pictures? Then it is not a photo post. Has it got lots of pictures, relative to words? Then it is a photo post. But the argument seems to be that it is best left to post discovery to decide. At least, that's how I see it.
[kevinmarks]does u-featured imply it's not a photo post? If a post has a lot of photos, then using u-featured to mark the representative one also makes sense.
[jgmac1106]Actually heading to Glitch HQ now for a meet and greet. Going to be highlighting how close we are to having all the building blocks available
ZegnatTIL: four leaf clovers are not a good thing, clovers only grow the fourth leaf because they require it to stay alive in the spot they are growing.
Loqi[Tantek Çelik] h-entry is a simple, open format for episodic or datestamped content on the web. h-entry is often used with content intended to be syndicated, e.g. blog posts. h-entry is one of several open microformat standards suitable for embedding data in HTML.
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@edtechfactotum↩️ Thanks! So, if they have webmentions enabled on their blog & write a post that references my site with permalink back to my post somewhere in their post, would it work like pingback/trackback and just automatically appear in my comments? (twitter.com/_/status/1050500723819966464)
@edtechfactotum↩️ ...and if their blog doesn't have webmentions, they would have to come abck to my original post and enter in the url back to their post in that box. Is that how it works? (twitter.com/_/status/1050500889201455104)
@jgmac1106↩️ Yes. Checkout https:// edu522.networkedlearningcollaborative.
Taught using webmentions. It was so amazing. Helped reshape my #OpenPedagogy.
put link to specific post anywhere and then add their url and drop into box. You get webmention.
You can change language of prompt (twitter.com/_/status/1050501987110924288)
@jgmac1106↩️ Yes but if they are on blogger or http://WordPress.com or others they can use Bridgy for webmentions.
Currently building a webmention badge platform.
What is better endorsement than DNS? And all you need is link to criteria and evidence.
Just 2 websites talking together (twitter.com/_/status/1050502507510804481)
@edtechfactotum↩️ Odd. I see that I have 2 comments on the post, one being a webmention, but the webmention comment doesn't actually appear in the comment section. Should it? Or maybe it's a theme issue? (twitter.com/_/status/1050505195224879104)
@jgmac1106↩️ The webmention box you are seeing is normal but we can tweak it. Heading to @glitch HQ to hang with folks and talk about how we build learning tools for better future but happy to help anyone with #IndieWeb @WordPress (twitter.com/_/status/1050506661050355713)
sknebelswentel: snarfed did you talk to Mastodon about the check that annoys you? e.g. in the PR adding it, there's even the question if it is a good idea due to bridgy! https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/pull/6219
snarfedthanks swentel! ok, so, the disappointing conclusion is, mastodon requires that AP actor ids are a strict prefix of all of their object ids and urls...?
snarfedalso swentel some of the mastodon code i looked at earlier seemed to check for full prefix, not just host. could you tell if it's now just host?