#dev 2018-10-20
2018-10-20 UTC
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@hardfire okay! so my website has some form of webmention support now !!
go check - https://avinash.com.np/2018/10/16/web-weekend-kathmandu-2018-wrap-up/
so much for writing my own, now i am using http://webmention.io until i write something myself (which can take until another dashain holiday) :D (twitter.com/_/status/1053605415664185348)
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[jgmac1106] [Marco] I am teaching my first blind student to code. Any tips welcome. Decided to use plain text editor. Building her templates with just header and paragraph tags
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[Marco] Hey [jgmac1106] that's a great thing to do! ❤
# [Marco] Thinking of tipps… woah… dunno. Ask her as many questions as possible:
# [Marco] - how do you feel most comfortable learning?
# [Marco] - which fields of coding are you interested in the most or at all? (Front End and Back End are both pretty wide fields… could be anything, and then start from there)
# [Marco] - what would you look for in a text/code editor?
# [Marco] Thinking about it, those are questions I'd ask any apprentice before starting to teach them anything. 🤔
# [Marco] Let her try different editors and find out what feels best on her own (thinking about editors in specific).
# [Marco] When it comes to HTML I wouldn't teach it differently to a blind person than to any other person to be honest.
# [Marco] Start out with a "Hello World" inside a `<h1>` and then add more HTML tags as you go.
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# [jgmac1106] Thx [Marco] I am redoing my hello tutorials to be plain text. She wants to build a website to encourage restaurants to make menus more accessible
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# [Marco] [jgmac1106] happy to help 🙂
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@frankmeeuwsen OK. De eerste dag van de IndieWebCamp zit er op. Morgen gaan we een half dagje zelf aan de slag met eigen projecten. Mijn plan is om de complete flow van webmentions in orde te gaan maken. Zowel het ontvangen als het versturen. Ik heb in elk geval al een… https://diggingthedigital.com/indieweb-webmention-client-ruby-a-ruby-gem-for/ (twitter.com/_/status/1053682170840125441)
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[pfefferle] Good morning
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# [jgmac1106] [Khurt] you could try rolling back one version of Post Kinds though 3.1.1 has some important fixes.
# [jgmac1106] Mf2 stream wasn't working perfectly because of a post kind bug but I know it was working well enough for you
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[dmitshur] Hi. I have a question I wanted to discuss, if anyone has thoughts on this.
# [dmitshur] My personal website is open source, and all the static data is embedded. It's possible for anyone to download and run it easily. However, some of the pages rely on some dynamic data to be available, and they currently fail in ways that aren't pretty, because they assume that data must be there (and it is there in the real production environment).
# [dmitshur] I want to make that experience better so I'm thinking about different approaches I could take.
# [dmitshur] I considered hard-coding some of the critical dynamic data into code (e.g., https://github.com/shurcooL/home/commit/d75345bcf8b252251d3cbd8333f9cdffb87e2fb2) but found that approach doesn't scale. I can hard-code some data, but I later found there's more that also needs to be hard-coded... it also separates some data between 2 places (code, database). It doesn't feel right.
# [dmitshur] Another idea I had was to do some sort of federation... when run with default flags, it would assume there is no local database, and instead connect to the upstream server on the internet and use its APIs instead.
# [dmitshur] This feels like it could be pretty cool, but it has downsides:
# [dmitshur] 1. obviously requires an internet connection; wouldn't run offline
# [dmitshur] 2. worse, it makes the database effectively "read-only" because such an instance wouldn't be have access to modify anything remotely.
# [dmitshur] 3. it's a weird unsupported mode that might break and I would never notice, since I personally wouldn't ever use it
# [dmitshur] Has anyone with an open source website tackled this problem (making it possible/friendly for someone else to download and run a local instance of it)?
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gRegorLove aaronpk, what do you think about bumping indiewebify.me PHP requirement to 7.0?
# gRegorLove It's 5.4 currently