#dev 2018-11-02
2018-11-02 UTC
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[cleverdevil] Pass in any arbitrary domain, this will parse for relme links, and pull the person's name from their hcard, and generate a JSON output containing a mapping of that domain to all of their identities, and how to "mention" them in plain-text and HTML on that service.
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[cleverdevil] (Only handles a few services at the moment... Twitter, Micro.blog, GitHub, Keybase, Instagram, and LinkedIn)
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[cleverdevil] Its in PHP, so I could merge this into Known as a helper class somewhere, and then use it to implement what I am wanting.
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[cleverdevil] Good ideas. Gotta run to a family thing. Iβll tinker more later π
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[kevinmarks] Gets confused by kevinmarks.com
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gRegorLove [cleverdevil], only finds my keybase: https://cleverdevil.io/nicknames?url=https://gregorlove.com
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[cleverdevil] Added the "url" key.
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[cleverdevil] Looking at the two sites that it didn't pick anything up from.
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[cleverdevil] (Its using the version of php-mf2 bundled with Known)
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[cleverdevil] May be out of date.
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[cleverdevil] Fixed [gRegorLove]'s
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[cleverdevil] (My regex wasn't case insensitive... oops!)
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[cleverdevil] Now I've broken it again, haha... working on it.
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[eddie] Regarding pet names and nicknames cache. My site recognizes and displays pet names. (See Mom, Dad and Ash pet names on this post: https://eddiehinkle.com/2017/12/07/16/checkin/) real names would be Sarah, Dean and Ashley.
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Loqi [Eddie Hinkle] Getting ready for Dadβs retirement tomorrow +Stacy +Matt +SarahMai
at
Garrisonville, VA
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Ash,
Dad
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Mom. https://api.mapbox.com/styles/v1/mapbox/streets-v9/static/pin-m+24b1f3(-77.42124009981552,38.47519106565878)/-77.42124009981552,38.47519106565878,13,0,60/1280x350@2x?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiZWRkaWVoaW5rbGUiLCJhIjoiY2oxa3o1aXdiMDAwNDMzbjFjNGQ0ejl1eSJ9.WQZ6i6b-TYYe_96IQ6iXdg&attribution=false&logo=false
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[cleverdevil] Yeah, kevinmarks.com totally explodes.
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[cleverdevil] Not sure why.
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[cleverdevil] Hmm... Known can't even fetch the site.
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[cleverdevil] Works on every other site I try.
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[cleverdevil] Ah... "Connection timed out after 5000 milliseconds"
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[cleverdevil] Yup, can't even curl your site from my server [kevinmarks].
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gRegorLove Hehe, capital R strikes again :)
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[cleverdevil] π
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[kevinmarks] odd
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[cleverdevil] I am able to get it to work if I use http://www.kevinmarks.com
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[cleverdevil] Of course, it improperly discovers your h-card then, assigning you the name "Chris Messina"
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[kevinmarks] it should redirect
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[cleverdevil] π
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[cleverdevil] It looks like you're on S3, and I am fetching from an EC2 instance, so it may be somehow oddly related.
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[kevinmarks] is this like google appengine not being able to crawl itself?
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[cleverdevil] Here is the in-progress code -> https://gist.github.com/cleverdevil/17a5cea3cb8d81c43404de169720a8df
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[cleverdevil] Feel free to provide feedback!
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[kevinmarks] my h-card is inside the h-feed, so you don't see it and get Messina from the bottom
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[kevinmarks] you'd have the same problem with an h-card on a post
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[cleverdevil] Shouldn't your h-card be up at the root level on your domain?
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[cleverdevil] How am I to know which h-card is yours?
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[cleverdevil] I suppose I could match the urls.
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[cleverdevil] Cool.
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[cleverdevil] That fixed it.
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[cleverdevil] [kevinmarks]++
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[jgmac1106] [frank] I use inoreader and I never discovered away. Ended up starting to use [aaronpk]'s Aperture
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[frank] [jgmac1106] I've been thinking about using the Broadcast possibility. This builds an RSS feed I could use as input for some service to post to my site. But I get stuck in these moving parts...should I use micropub to post then? Something else? Build it or fork it? Which one? All these open ends!
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[jgmac1106] [frank] yeah all my class feeds are inoreader so I can embed feeds on my site
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[jgmac1106] try aperture and indigenous first, I need to try the broadcast, but yeah I click on link to web, copy url, and then use somethign to publish from inoreader
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[jgmac1106] [jackjamieson] working ion micrsub and Yarn for WordPress, @swentel has a Drupal implementation
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[jgmac1106] file a a feature request issue...super responsive team
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[schmarty] snarfed++ very nice!
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jacky aaronpk: I don't know my site's hostname out of the box (it's running from within a container so it thinks it's http://localhost:4000) so I take in a provided host name and rewrite to be the 'expected' hostname
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jacky so like koype on my laptop runs under Docker and I'd reach it from http://localhost:4000. But when I hit Quill, I'm hitting it via ngrok so its hostname is https://235f79da.ngrok.io
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[kevinmarks] Svgshare.com is ticking up again. I need to have a look at it at some point.
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[cleverdevil] Thanks for the feedback everyone on my tinkering with "nicknames" yesterday. I've updated a ticket in Known with details on how I could see this improving Known in general - https://github.com/idno/known/issues/1992
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[cleverdevil] We'll see what [benwerd] has to say π
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[cleverdevil] Hey, [aaronpk], should I open an issue in Aperture for this? - https://github.com/cleverdevil/together/issues/20
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[cleverdevil] So, I opened a related issue and PR on JSONFeed - https://github.com/brentsimmons/JSONFeed/pull/116
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[cleverdevil] But, its been open forever.
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[cleverdevil] It said nothing before, and my PR simply says that relative URLs *may* be used.
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[cleverdevil] Mostly because its already out in the wild with people using it that way.
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[cleverdevil] Correct.
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[cleverdevil] !tell manton Think you could get this resolved?
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[cleverdevil] Damn.
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[cleverdevil] !tell manton Think you could get this PR merged? https://github.com/brentsimmons/JSONFeed/pull/116
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[cleverdevil] Roger, wilco.
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