#dev 2018-11-03

2018-11-03 UTC
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Wow, are you setting up webmentions and syndicating to Twitter and Mastodon from your own website? If you need any help stop by #IndieWeb chat anytime/ This reply started on my site but will go to Twitter and Mastodon (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/KAqO3) (twitter.com/_/status/1058662624131514368)
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[grantcodes] Reading through the backfeed
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[grantcodes] And [cleverdevil] + others re nickname / silo map cache, why don't we start a public google spreadsheet or something with everyone that has themselves on the wiki, could be the start of a decent little database
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[grantcodes] [schmarty] I started trying to convert the express auth endpoint to use webauthn but I realised I don't understand that enough to actually build something with it. But think it would be a great idea potentially 😛
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[schmarty] [grantcodes] lol. Joel Purra has been talking about doing the same thing this weekend
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jgmac1106 [grantcodes] could the chat-names page be scraped since it has a link to everyones userpage with an h-card on it?
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jgmac1106 or can’t we all simply syndicate a post to somewhere and only put your hcard in the post?
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[grantcodes] [jgmac1106] I am actually going to generate something using indiemap!
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@jgmac1106 Also thinking of other single points in the network https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2018-10-22#t1540240754955000 @davidshanske and @pfefferle for WordPress @schnarfed and http://Brid.gy. (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/GhL7l) (twitter.com/_/status/1058684879787958273)
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@voxpelli Realized I had broken the HTML-pages for mentions in the latest release of my Webmention endpoint. That has now been fixed: https://webmention.herokuapp.com/api/mentions?site=voxpelli.com&format=html #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1058686600283111424)
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[grantcodes] Ok, made a spread sheet of indieweb people if anyone wants to use it for nickname caches
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[grantcodes] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FA-KFOioiCmEU3ZUJ0jlnCQDEkBUonXGUdjHr0tFuwo/edit?usp=sharing
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[jgmac1106] missing micro.blog
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[jgmac1106] nvm found it
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[jgmac1106] maybe fediverse instance and name?
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[grantcodes] [jgmac1106] It's just automated based on the domains found in rel=me links for now, but something like that would probably make more sense in an actual implementation
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[jgmac1106] ...goes to put his mastodon and microblog accounts into his h-card
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@MozillaLK IndieAuth is a decentralized login protocol that enables users of your software to log in to other apps. It's an extension to OAuth 2.0 that lets any website [Read More...] https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/10/dweb-identity-for-the-decentralized-web-with-indieauth/ (twitter.com/_/status/1058716206843289600)
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[schmarty] [jgmac1106] just saw your note about audio controls on chrome from this morning. i am going an odd "hack" - a <video> element with a poster image (so it shows a canvas), an mp3 <source> inside (for the actual audio), and a <track> pointing to a .vtt subtitle track.
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[schmarty] [jgmac1106]: i actually want the audio controls to appear (i'm not going to be redrawing them!). however, the issue with chrome is that their controls obscure the subtitle display and they never disappear.
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[schmarty] [jgmac1106] i believe that chrome hides the controls for a "real" video after you click play, as long as you're not hovering over it. but it seems not to ever hide for this audio-with-poster thing.
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jgmac1106 [schmarty] I do the exact same thing for the video based calibrations in ReVIEW, need to hack out the download button but leave audio controls, sure css would work the same
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swentel woohoow, drupal module now contains an auth and token endpoint :) tested with monocle, quill and indigenous - all work fine :)
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Loqi yay!
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@swentel The Drupal #indieweb module now contains a built-in IndieAuth server. Authorize applications by simply logging in with your Drupal account! Last service to add is an internal webmention endpoint, stay tuned! (twitter.com/_/status/1058744878266499073)
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[jgmac1106] @schmatry hmm never tried to do an audio poster, and tried can't, you know front-end way better then me anyway, also tried displaying audio controls, I know we could hide controls except hover with opacity but not sure a11y rules on that
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@AxelNennker Just logged in to https://indieweb.org/User:Axel.nennker.de using indieauth via @github Kind of back to @openid version 1... Which is not bad but solves a completely different problem than openid connect. Very indie (twitter.com/_/status/1058793842235858944)
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@TechLifeWeb Does http://Brid.gy work with more than one Twitter account? #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1058809779718643712)
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[eddie] Hmmm strange swentel I can’t find the reference to expire/refresh tokens in the spec 🤔
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[eddie] I thought it mentioned and discouraged them
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GWG Indieauth expire and refresh?
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[eddie] Regarding swentel’s comment from #indieweb
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[eddie] Yep, IndieAuth
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GWG It's an OAuth2 concept
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Zegnat It's definitely nowhere in the spec. But you are free to implement it in your token endpoint.
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Zegnat Not sure how refreshing would map though. Expiry is just making your endpoint stop accepting a token and thus pretty simple
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GWG https://www.oauth.com/oauth2-servers/access-tokens/refreshing-access-tokens/
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aaronpk We haven't ever really talked about refresh tokens in IndieAuth but since it's all OAuth 2 under the hood all the OAuth 2 advice around refresh tokens should apply still
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