#dev 2018-11-05

2018-11-05 UTC
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[dave] Any opinions on trailing slashes wrt rel=“me” verification? I filed a bug on Mastodon because my site’s link had a trailing slash and Mastodon doesn’t want a trailing slash in its verification routine. https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/issues/9195
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Loqi [davmillar] #9195 Link verification fails with trailing slash in Mastodon profile link.
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aaronpk "trailing slash" is a convention from specific web servers that often either serve a page from both or redirect one to the other. as far as the URLs are concerned, they are completely different URLs and should not be considered the same.
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aaronpk nightpool's suggestion in that thread is the best option, mastodon should not be serving the content on both URLs, they should be redirecting one to the other
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[tantek] Right it should pick one and 301 to it
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[tantek] [schmarty] Could you add a markup code snippet of your year month archive nav UI to /archive_navigation ? Maybe in a how to or brainstorming or add yourself to IndieWeb examples and add it there? Whichever feels better to you
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[tantek] (Markup snippet with details & summary elements, very cool pattern and I haven't seen anyone else do it that way before)
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[kevinmarks] the atom feed links to <uri>https://mastodon.social/users/kevinmarks</uri> which 301s to "https://mastodon.social/@kevinmarks" (no slash)
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[kevinmarks] and <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://mastodon.social/@kevinmarks"/>
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[kevinmarks] https://mastodon.social/users/kevinmarks.atom so the trailing / should do the same.
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aaronpk You don't need to tell us ;-) add it to the issue
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[jgmac1106] anyone adding a timestamp to quotes when quoting a video or podcast?
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[kevinmarks] I have done that with YouTube. I have also extracted audio clips before now.
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[jgmac1106] what I did: <blockquote>
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[jgmac1106] <p>In college I did have a stalker. It was a very scary experience. I come to technology with a different perspective because of that experience. It is not a matter of techno panic but a matter of self-preservation....lots of people in Silicon Valley who have never had a Stalker. They are not thinking like that. If you get more people involved that have had Diversity improves technology in a way that makes regulation less necessary</p>
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[jgmac1106] </blockquote>
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[jgmac1106] <p><a class="u-quotation-of h-cite" href="https://twit.tv/shows/this-week-in-google">TWIG <time class="dt-start">0:47:50</time> to <time class="dt-end"> 0:49:22</time></a></p>
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sknebel that seems weird
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sknebel what is media fragment?
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Loqi media fragment is a way of linking to a part of a longer media file https://indieweb.org/media_fragment
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[jgmac1106] I was taking a random guess and the amount of time it takes prolly just use blockquote
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sknebel media fragments are sort of standard for this and some sites actually do something with them, automatically playing the right bit of the media.
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[eddie] Thanks sknebel I was searching all around the wiki trying to figure out what media fragments were called 🙂
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[eddie] I was trying to figure it out so I could link it here
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[eddie] sknebel++
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Loqi sknebel has 27 karma in this channel over the last year (82 in all channels)
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[eddie] !tell aaronpk Analyzing your code snippets. it looks like the only thing different about the Micropub posts is that you set p3k-content-type to code/code-type so I’m guessing your internal PTD checks to see if content-type == code/* and that’s how it treats it differently?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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sknebel [markmhendrickso: we're in the process of extending IndieAuth to do things like "my feed reader can authenticate to another site as me and fetch a feed with private posts", or validate webmentions pointing to private posts, ...
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sknebel most current set of notes is here, but it isn't properly written out yet so likely hard to follow if you jump in: https://indieweb.org/2018/Nuremberg/autoauth
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gRegorLove what's DID? re: https://github.com/indieweb/indiewebify-me/issues/77
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Loqi [csuwildcat] #77 Near future: add DIDs as suggested identifiers
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snarfed sounds like a blockchain or similar decentralized alternative to domains
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snarfed also looks like evangelism from someone outside the community. (like we sometimes also do for adding mf2 to various projects. :P) i'd deprioritize.
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@chriskrycho Has anyone come up with a good, relatively straightforward way to do WebMentions on “static site generator”-generated pages, e.g. with things like @Netlify’s comments system or similar? (twitter.com/_/status/1059510181552316416)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ You can code in the ability for webmentions yourself or rely on one of the many community tools: https://indieweb.org/static_site (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1wxq1R) (twitter.com/_/status/1059512928561491970)
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[kevinmarks] DID discussion https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/216#issuecomment-434349655
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Loqi [hadleybeeman] Thanks, @msporny! We've discussed it at length in our TAG face-to-face meeting in Paris. Two questions to help us in our review: 1. We found ourselves struggling to work out what use cases you are trying to support. What is the user need? When...
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[jgmac1106] holy geeze [kevinmarks] 50 plus papers on rebooting the web of trust and DIDs....that's a lot of boots and not much building....all that time
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kisik21 hello. IRC would probably be too small for my thoughts, so I think I'll just share a post from my own website. Webmentions supported, but no UI for sending yet, please use external tools if you want to reply. https://fireburn.ru/post/notes/
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kisik21 TL; DR: how do I render notes?
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kisik21 and by rendering I mean from UX perspective
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KartikPrabhu I do not have titles on notes and render them as usual posts with content. there is a webmention form below them too
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KartikPrabhu for Atom, I generate a "fake" title from the truncated content
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gRegorLove I use Granary to generate an Atom feed from my notes; it handles that truncated title automatically, which is nice.
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jalcine gRegorLove: so you do it on build or just have that `/articles.atom` call granary on the fly?
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gRegorLove Dynamic. granary.io has a REST-style service and I redirect. See: https://gregorlove.com/notes.atom
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jalcine nice
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gRegorLove My articles.atom is older and generated on my site. I should update that to maintain less XML :)
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[manton] [cleverdevil] On that pull request for the JSON Feed spec... I think it's a good change. I think the best thing to do is roll together a few improvements to the spec that I've wanted to approve and do them all at once.
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Loqi [manton]: [cleverdevil] left you a message 3 days ago: Think you could get this resolved?
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Loqi [manton]: [cleverdevil] left you a message 3 days ago: Think you could get this PR merged? https://github.com/brentsimmons/JSONFeed/pull/116
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ built an IndieWeb course template you might want to check out check out @chrisaldrich'#Edu522 for the pedagogical proof on concept. Teaching with webmentions and post kind plugin so much fun. Even fooling around with webmention badges. Fun… http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/11/05/taylorjadin-built-an-indieweb-course-template-you (twitter.com/_/status/1059594914961543169)