#dev 2018-11-07
2018-11-07 UTC
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[jgmac1106] why is this happening? Do I need to make my h-card representative because the bookmarks on the page have an h-card?

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[jgmac1106] nvm, think it;s just here the cited author h-card gets picked up...if I remember correctly granary? favors the h-cite

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gRegorLove carrying over some indiebookclub talk here from #microformats

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gRegorLove Grant has a request in for IBC to allow editing posts, so that's on my radar.

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gRegorLove In #microformats we were discussing possibly switching `p-read-status` with `p-category`

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gRegorLove If I do that, I think edit posts would check both the p-read-status and the p-category to select the "status" in the drop-down...

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gRegorLove So if you edited on IBC, changing from to-read to reading, the mp request would send the new category, not the old one.

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gRegorLove [eddie], [jgmac1106] Does that make sense?^

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gRegorLove Personally I don't think I plan to use edits in IBC much. I like having separate posts for when I added to-read, started reading, finished reading.

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[jgmac1106] yeah part of the reason I was thinking them as a webmention to the original post

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gRegorLove I've experimented with that for reading progress, each one in reply to the "started reading" post.

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gRegorLove Not sure about it in the mp client, though.

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[jgmac1106] but in IWBC could you theoretically have a dropdown menu that could trigger a micropub post for read-to reading and finished that would in a reply-to the original post?

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gRegorLove [eddie], out of curiosity, are you doing anything with read-status on your site internally, to organize posts?

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gRegorLove One reason I'm liking the thought of changing to category is it solves the problem of whether to use the x- prefix in the mp requests :)

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gRegorLove Ok, just checking. I don't want to make life difficult, heh. There's still the read-of so people can identify read posts though

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gRegorLove [jgmac1106], possibly. I'll think about it some more. I want it to be a clear UX and not surprise anyone. Maybe a setting.

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@tomcritchlowBOT V curious about webmentions and the insanity of…. (twitter.com/_/status/1060064760316731394)
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[grantcodes] !tell gRegorLove I've not used IBC extensively yet myself, but the way I would imagine updates working would be practically the same as a new post, but if the user selects they have finished or got to page you could show an extra box to paste a post url to update.

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[grantcodes] !ell gRegorLove also seems I can't login anymore. The auth redirect has a double slash in it which I'm sure doesn't help

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[grantcodes] oops

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[grantcodes] !tell gRegorLove also seems I can't login anymore. The auth redirect has a double slash in it which I'm sure doesn't help

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[jgmac1106] @swentel how do apps access the finerprint reader on Androi...be really cool if I could login with a fingerprint

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[jgmac1106] ...but with indielogin it would be my website that would have to access the fingerprint reader correct?

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[Rose] (Link for context: https://github.com/tantek/post-type-discovery/issues/40)

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sknebel there's also this https://octobox.io/, but it's based on notifications you got, not sure if it works quite right
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aaronpk oh yeah and https://github.com/notifications is also close but again not a very actionable view

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aaronpk I want a view like https://github.com/issues but that only includes repos in https://github.com/watching

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KartikPrabhu jalcine: I use srcset on <img> but mf2 parsers will pick up only the src attribute

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aaronpk authorship question... I continue to miss out on any authorship information in adactio's posts from his feeds. In his feed pages, there is no author property on the individual h-entrys. His pages are a series of h-entrys with one h-card at the end. Should I add a rule to use that h-card as the author of every h-entry? The rule would be basically if the page consists of a bunch of h-entrys followed by

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aaronpk hm yeah that is tricky, especially since the url of the h-card on https://adactio.com/about/myself is https://adactio.com/

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gRegorLove Is it a representative h-card?

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Loqi gRegorLove: [grantcodes] left you a message 8 hours, 18 minutes ago: I've not used IBC extensively yet myself, but the way I would imagine updates working would be practically the same as a new post, but if the user selects they have finished or got to page you could show an extra box to paste a post url to update.

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Loqi The representative h-card for a page is an h-card on that page that represents that page, if any, as not all pages are about a person or organization, a page might not have a representative h-card https://indieweb.org/representative_h-card

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gRegorLove haha

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Loqi authorship is how to determine who the author(s) of a post are https://indieweb.org/authorship

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gRegorLove indiewebify.me has a bug validating rep. h-card btw

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gRegorLove aaronpk, what's the adactio feed URL in question?

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gRegorLove Patched indiewebify.me finds a rep. h-card: http://iwm.gregoreatworld.com/validate-h-card/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fadactio.com%2Farticles%2F

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gRegorLove (disregard php notices, heh)

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gRegorLove The h-card there has a u-url that matches a rel-me on the same page, so representative

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sknebel https://adactio.com/about/myself/, which is the rel=me also validates
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gRegorLove the bug actually isn't in indiewebify.me but Barnaby's mf2 cleaner. I have a PR: https://github.com/barnabywalters/php-mf-cleaner/pull/6

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gRegorLove er, that PR may not be related after all. I'll have to look at the code closer.

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gRegorLove It sounds like rep. h-card algorithm is easier in this instance, no extra fetch

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gRegorLove Yeah, option 3 is what I'm proposing

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KartikPrabhu right. I don't think representative h-card is supposed to decide the "author" for h-feeds

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gRegorLove I guess I'm proposing option 4: follow /authorship algorithm; if not found, follow rep. h-card.

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gRegorLove Fitting rel-author in there somewhere is probably worth exploring

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gRegorLove hm, maybe

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gRegorLove I think /authorship was originally based on rep. h-card

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gRegorLove Doesn't authorship algorithm 7.3 work with https://adactio.com/about/myself/? There's one h-card there with url = rel-me

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gRegorLove maybe not based on 6 "if there is no author-page and the h-entry's page is a permalink page" since this is a feed page. hm

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gRegorLove could add a step 4.1 "otherwise if the feed page has a rel-author, use that"

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gRegorLove I think that would definitely take you through step 7 then and find the h-card

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gRegorLove Sure, but we have at least some mention of feeds in /authorship

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gRegorLove Try it with my proposed 4.1

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gRegorLove "has a parent h-feed"

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gRegorLove ohh

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gRegorLove oops :)

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gRegorLove Think we'll need some url/uid/rel-me checks with "multiple h-entry:s and one h-card -> treat it as implicit h-feed with the h-card as author" e.g. a stream of h-entrys and only h-card is a link in one of the h-entrys to someone else.

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[schmarty] hi

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gRegorLove o/ [schmarty]

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jalcine I'm going to opt to <picture> https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/embedded-content.html#the-picture-element

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KartikPrabhu jalcine: the picture element also supports srcset and sizes in the <source>

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KartikPrabhu the <picture> by it self is just a wrapper element essentially

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KartikPrabhu sure by mf2 parsers don't really care if the <img> element is "crowded"

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KartikPrabhu so yeah you should go for what makes sense as the markup for your site and not worry too much about mf2

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KartikPrabhu in fact I use <picture> with <img> with srcset and sometimes <source> if I am using svg

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KartikPrabhu if you put say "u-photo" on an <img> then mf parsers will directly pick up the src attribute which work fine for now

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