snarfedi'm getting a 404 for one that's 6d old. just checking that that's expected. i didn't find anything about expiration time on wm.io or the github readme
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mblaneyat the moment, section 3.3.5 says ignore what you don't recognise, but the updated version would be if there's anything you don't recognise, fall back to the summary.
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ZegnatI don’t think it should be to fallback as soon as there is a single property you do not recognise, right? More like: if no content is defined and no other display can be generated from other properties fallback to summary if available
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@rubenmstbEn Psicolingüística no formulario ademais do idioma materno hai que cubrir a variedade. Cun 'Western Galician' supoño que chegará, que non penso que microsubárea Tambre-Barbanza lle diga moito. (twitter.com/_/status/1062308005390307328)
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[dave]@petermolnar re: 200 while offline: I think the general feeling among proponents of service workers are that they're simply enhancing the existing caching mechanism available in the browser, but it's a fair question to ask and I'm interested in hearing from detractors.
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[jgmac1106][eddie] yeah a reply field to drop in any particular url, be nice, I didn't know about following people...I need to go and refollow everyone I followed on Mastodon
[eddie][manton] In a different channel some of us were just talking about how to reply to a random Mastodon post from Micro.blog. Obviously, right now the only way is through the Micro.blog interface and likely by following someone (unless their post is imported into Micro.blog because of an existing conversation)
[eddie]but one thing that came up is I'm thinking a "next step" for Micro.blog might be supporting Reply posts in the Micropub endpoint. I know that probably comes with some complexities
[jgmac1106]and I actually thought all my post I syndicated through RSS were actually being published natively...your idea of a microblog micropub client would be awesome...be some time before I have skills to hack on that
[eddie]but regarding the Micropub endpoint accepting replies, if the target url contained mf2, it could import that mf2 as a native post to create the conversation within Micro.blog, then it could send either a Webmention or ActivityPub ping based on what is available on the url
[jgmac1106]yeah I was trying to figure out why they showed on timeline but not my microblog site, you helped me with that already...the reply to Mastodon won't be too bad for people I follow...but you cant start with reply....and I can't reply to other sites from micro.blog using the JSON API seems reasonable
[eddie]For urls that you reply to without mf2 might be a bit more complicated. It could just take the title of the page and put the domain after like standard article posts in Micro.blog
[eddie]And while if it doesn't receive webmentions or ActivityPub the author might not actually receive a reply, it could build up interesting commentary threads within Micro.blog
[eddie]aaronpk I was looking at the audience property today and I saw your post that you syndicated to IRC back awhile ago, and that reminded me that i had thought about doing that for awhile
[eddie]The other thing that would be helpful is that (when it's running and not broken) currently I have a script that sends posts from the chat logs to my notifications channels if I or indigenous are mentioned
[eddie]I'm not sure which should win out on an unlisted post with a tag... I'm guessing unlisted, but it would be helpful to have unlisted posts in certain areas like the tag pages since those are manually added
[manton][eddie] Replying to a Mastodon post that isn't already in the timeline is something I want to solve. Usually you can click on the user's Mastodon name in Micro.blog and it will show whatever they've posted, so you can reply there.
[eddie]Yeah, I feel like that's where a Micropub Reply would come in handy. But I having some kind of a textbox where you could put the url would be a simple first step probably
[manton]Cool. Yeah, the Micropub endpoint can actually already be used to create @-mentions. Anything starting with an "@" is routed to the timeline as a reply.
[eddie]actually now that I'm free of Jekyll, I have a Post class that is essentially a fancy mf2 object with functions, so I can probably start offloading a lot of my "Micropub endpoint" logic into the actual Post class itself
snarfedon a related mastodon/AP note, now that bridgy fed supports following (both directions), it's fun to see my followers on mastodon start to accumulate as indie follow webmentions and render nicely: https://snarfed.org/about#comment-2615238
[eddie]great! Now I just have to figure out how to get webmention.io (aka xray) to support follow posts haha or I'll need to add another layer of webmention parsing in
Loqisebsel: [eddie] left you a message 4 days, 23 hours ago: Please bug me about adding subscribing to Indigenous. That was supposed to be in before it went public and I still just haven't gotten around to it
Loqi[Eddie Hinkle] There are a bunch of great Micropub apps for the Web, iOS and Android so I definitely think it would be helpful to add Micropub support.
[manton]It's an interesting problem of what to do with that. Currently, M.b accepts the Webmention and threads it into the conversation. However, it can't notify Eugen's Mastodon instance because your account isn't using ActivityPub.
[manton]So he'll never see the reply unless he happens to check the conversation in Micro.blog. I realized about halfway through implementing all of this that there would be some confusing situations like that, but not sure it is really solvable except to prevent M.b users from replying at all in that case.
[eddie]Yeah that’s tricky KevinMarks because you sent a webmention to essentially an IndieWeb website (manton’s) but his was in reply to an ActivityPub instance
[manton][kevinmarks] Currently the only way it could work is if you enabled ActivityPub support in your account on Micro.blog, and then when replying also @-mention a Mastodon user in the thread to force it to notify Mastodon. Possibly I could code around that second part later by automatically sending it to Mastodon when it's part of an existing thread.
LoqiIt looks like we don't have a page for "WriteFreely" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "WriteFreely is ____", a sentence describing the term)
[Vincent]@kisik21 from the telegraph API docs “If you pass target_domain instead of target, Telegraph will find and enqueue webmentions for all links to that domain” So I believe yes, if you use target_domain instead of target.
kisik21[Vincent]: too much parsing on my side, need this to be quick because this is gonna be from CI script in bash. I'm not gonna implement HTML parsing in bash...
@manton2Rolled out several fixes today for receiving Webmentions, parsing different kinds of usernames, and notifying Mastodon instances. Hopefully all these cross-site interactions will be a little bit more seamless now. (twitter.com/_/status/1062492060748599296)
Loqi[matt] @eddiehinkle.com I would definitely like to support it working as a client -- probably in the web editor, but definitely in our native desktop apps.
Loqi[matt] @eddiehinkle.com I would definitely like to support it working as a client -- probably in the web editor, but definitely in our native desktop apps.
[eddie]Working on cleaning up my Bridgy Fed integration. I need to set up automated webmentions for it and also my posts are ending up with content warnings equal to my content, which is strange... I think it’s my p-summary that was messing it up
@rubenmstb En Psicolingüística no formulario ademais do idioma materno hai que cubrir a variedade. Cun 'Western Galician' supoño que chegará, que non penso que microsubárea Tambre-Barbanza lle diga moito. (twitter.com/_/status/1062308005390307328)
petermolnar fyi for those who want to upgrade to PHP 7.3 soon: https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=76975
@nhoizey ↩️ @vincentlistens Does it mean you have support for Webmentions with @eleven_ty? (twitter.com/_/status/1062371462273753088)
[dave] Anyone else trying web.dev as recommended in the main indieweb channel?
[jgmac1106] [eddie] yeah a reply field to drop in any particular url, be nice, I didn't know about following people...I need to go and refollow everyone I followed on Mastodon
[eddie] [manton] In a different channel some of us were just talking about how to reply to a random Mastodon post from Micro.blog. Obviously, right now the only way is through the Micro.blog interface and likely by following someone (unless their post is imported into Micro.blog because of an existing conversation)
[tantek] this is an amazing thread: https://micro.blog/manton/1040840
aaronpk i just got a webmention from gargron's profile page on micro.blog https://micro.blog/Gargron@mastodon.social
Loqi sebsel: swentel left you a message 1 day, 2 hours ago: no not all api actions are implemented yet, will happen in https://github.com/swentel/indieweb/issues/250
[manton] [eddie] Just noticed this post from you: https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/11/13/20/reply/
[kevinmarks] My reply to Manton on micro.blog doesn't show up on the mastodon version 9f the thread but I don't know what would have to change for that to work. https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/101059395256808997
@manton2 Rolled out several fixes today for receiving Webmentions, parsing different kinds of usernames, and notifying Mastodon instances. Hopefully all these cross-site interactions will be a little bit more seamless now. (twitter.com/_/status/1062492060748599296)