#dev 2018-11-12

2018-11-12 UTC
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[manton]
@GWG [aaronpk] In addition to NPR, there are a few podcast services that either generate JSON Feed or consume it. In a post last year I mentioned Breaker, Cast, Fireside, and FeedPress. I should add attachments to Micro.blog's feeds too (which would include Micro Monday).
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GWG
I would welcome it.
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@jgmac1106
↩️ Also bet you could use Bridgy to get to Twitter, the webmentions gem, or http://webmentions.io (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/mioJ7)
(twitter.com/_/status/1061967204885901312)
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@paulrobertlloyd
↩️ I’m really hoping someone will figure out how to combine @netlify functions and @eleven_ty data files to receive and process webmentions. Seems like a thing that could work, but beyond my current understanding of these things.
(twitter.com/_/status/1061990983125090305)
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@vincentlistens
↩️ Just about to port my Jekyll >@Netlify blog over to @eleven_ty Putting the finishing touches to my #webmentions sending. Then it should be a straight swap (fingers crossed).
(twitter.com/_/status/1061991891670052867)
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sknebel
what is Lambda?
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Loqi
Lambda is a service from Amazon Web Services that runs individual functions of code rather than running a server https://indieweb.org/Lambda
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sknebel
hm, no examples, but I'm sure a few people here use it - anyone made a webmention endpoint on it?
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sknebel
(Netlify functions mentioned in the tweets above is just Lambda repackaged afaik)
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Zegnat
Isn’t snarfed’s microsub bridge built on lambda?
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sknebel
no, that's Cloudflare Workers
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[Vincent]
[sknebel] I’ve been discussing porting my webmentions code to Lamda with Phil Hawksworth. Yeah it is basically Node code that runs (and you pay for usage only, similar to Heroku without a server). The endpoint created is the name of the file. I haven’t actually got the code running yet. The local process is a bit convoluted
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[Vincent]
The idea is the code is called from webhooks on publish that ping the endpoints in essence.
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[astillanet]
Hi there 👋 I’m new in the community.
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[astillanet]
I’m trying to create mi micropub endpoint but having problems with encodings when posting from Quill. Some chars are rendered as `_` and cannot figure out how to fix this. Shouldn’t be that difficult… I’m from Spain and write mainly in spanish, so this is an important thing to fix 😅 Any idea on how to fix?
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aaronpk
strange, which programming language are you using?
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[astillanet]
Javascript. Node.js
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[astillanet]
A really basic app with express and body-parser
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aaronpk
try to track down whether it's coming through the http request okay or whether it's a problem with writing or reading from your storage
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sknebel
or with converting the value coming from storage to HTML
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[astillanet]
could be something server-related. i’m running openbsd 6.3
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[astillanet]
🤦‍♂️ indeed, it was the server
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[astillanet]
thanks for your responses!
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sknebel
https://indieweb.org/Micropub-extensions#Query says stuff supports querying for categories, but doesn't describe *how* that works?
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@til_mb
"Replying to one of these usernames will send a Webmention to that user’s external web site." -- @manton2 on username-focused updates, making http://Micro.blog more web-friendly via improved flexibility to further integrate with the IndieWeb: https://www.manton.org/2018/11/08/usernames-on-microblog.html
(twitter.com/_/status/1062031268207046657)
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[eddie]
sknebel: Yeah, that should be defined. These are the two references I found.
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Loqi
[cweiske] so "?q=category&search=foo" is needed
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Loqi
[cweiske] so "?q=category&search=foo" is needed
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[eddie]
Oops that wasn’t supposed to be the same
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Loqi
[voxpelli] petermolnar: pushing _all_ existing categories to the client sounds unfeasible? would probably need to be a specific ?q=categories that returns a paginated list and which maybe can support some additional param for some kind of autocomplete/search
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sknebel
yeah, which aren't people working on the implementations listed
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[eddie]
Correct
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[eddie]
!tell swentel How does Indigenous for Android and Drupal provide the category/tag queries?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi
[GWG] Any Micropub client supporting q=category?
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[eddie]
So I’m thinking that’s what he added to Wordpress
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[eddie]
!tell GWG From what I understand, Wordpress supports Micropub category queries. Is this ?q=category&search= for autocomplete or is it a complete list?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[eddie]
Hopefully that will help shed some light so we can update the wiki
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Zegnat
Wasn’t there a generic proposal for searching through any property?
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[eddie]
This is about getting a list of categories not getting a list of posts by category
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[eddie]
I don’t think a generic property search would apply to that, would it?
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[eddie]
That is a list of posts not all possible tags
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Zegnat
Ooh, sorry, I misunderstood then [eddie]!
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Zegnat
I thought we were talking about list of posts
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[eddie]
No worries 😁
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Loqi
[Eugen] Reading the #micropub spec. Seems simple enough, would anyone benefit from us adding that? Is anyone using that?
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[jgmac1106]
...ohh my bad, I use a droopdown menu for a list of all categories
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[eddie]
Ahh gotcha. Yeah so the q=category is about allowing Micropub clients to autocomplete categories for hashtags or regular tags
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swentel
hmm should xray/mf2 handle duplicate image names ? or is it up to clients to detect them when displaying ?
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Loqi
swentel: sebsel left you a message 3 days, 22 hours ago: Does the IndieWeb plugin for Drupal support the Microsub 'preview' action? I think it does not, from the code I read, but I might have missed it. See also https://github.com/indieweb/microsub/issues/34 :)
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Loqi
swentel: [eddie] left you a message 1 hour, 8 minutes ago: How does Indigenous for Android and Drupal provide the category/tag queries?
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swentel
https://snarfed.org/2018-11-10_30370 is a good example which yields the same image twice
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Loqi
[Ryan Barrett] Ah, that classic girl’s rite of passage: crimping her first RJ45 cable. Next step: off to the datacenter. She’s had a free ride here for four good years. Time to start pulling her own weight!
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swentel
[eddie], micropub-endpoint?q=category
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swentel
that returns a list of tags
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GWG
Eddie, it is a complete list
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Loqi
GWG: [eddie] left you a message 1 hour, 8 minutes ago: From what I understand, Wordpress supports Micropub category queries. Is this ?q=category&search= for autocomplete or is it a complete list?
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swentel
indigenous caches it in case you're working offline
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sknebel
could you add that to could you document an example query/Response on https://indieweb.org/Micropub-extensions#Query ?
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swentel
yeah, no autocomplete here either
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sknebel
[cleverdevil]: someone asked about webmentions on Lambda today. you've used Lambda for indieweb things I think, did you do anything in that direction?
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swentel
!tell sebsel no not all api actions are implemented yet, will happen in https://github.com/swentel/indieweb/issues/250
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi
[swentel] #250 Add all remaining api actions in microsub
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[eddie]
swentel GWG thanks for the info! 😁
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GWG
If you are proposing a limiter on the command, I would be happy to implement it, but it was not in the original proposal
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[eddie]
No proposal just trying to capture as is
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GWG
I still would like more support for location
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[eddie]
Do you return a JSON array of strings?
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GWG
Yes.
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[eddie]
I’ll add some more general detail around it but for now it’s fixed up in its own section with some clarity around brainstorming and actual implementations
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GWG
eddie, could I talk you into location-visibility support?
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sknebel
[eddie]++
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Loqi
[eddie] has 44 karma in this channel over the last year (71 in all channels)
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GWG
Wondering what else Micropub could query for
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[eddie]
I don’t even send location yet! Hahaha
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Loqi
hehe
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GWG
eddie, when you do, don't forget altitude and location name
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GWG
Wondering if I should implement reverse geo lookup into the Micropub query
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[eddie]
Yeah I should add location to indigenous for iOS. Probably a pretty easy win
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voxpelli
likes that he is present here even when he isn’t in person, nice to see links to old thoughts :)
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[eddie]
Haha, yep!
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[eddie]
voxpelli++ for old thoughts!
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Loqi
voxpelli has 4 karma over the last year
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GWG
snarfed: That Micropub issue will be fixed tonight
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snarfed
thanks GWG!