#dev 2018-12-25

2018-12-25 UTC
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[jgmac1106] I think HTML be condisered like p-category especially with single page set ups
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@maxandersen Took way too long but after going through awestruct, Hugo and jbake I now landed on Jekyll to drive http://xam.dk - took ages but was fun. Next is to get either staticman or http://webmention.io working so I can fully nuke http://disqus.io. (twitter.com/_/status/1077396573120811008)
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[tantek] nice
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jacky they're having problems with indielogin tho :(
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[tantek] oh no!
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jgmac1106 looking for any tutorials on setting up redirects. here is situation, moved WP site to https://archive.jgregorymcverry.com and have static site at https://jgregorymcvery.com How do I set up a 301 page for all my old links? Can’t find good guides anywhere
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[tantek] Apache or nginx?
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jgmac1106 apache
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[tantek] I’d look for instructions on setting up a 404 handler for your plain domain that can then try 301ing to the archive domain
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[tantek] You’ll likely have to edit .htaccess
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jgmac1106 okay thanks, results so polluted with WordPress SEO crap
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[tantek] What is htaccess
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Loqi htaccess is the file used for configuring particular sites on apache (as opposed to httpd.conf which is global) https://indieweb.org/htaccess
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[tantek] You can do a search -Wordpress -seo
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jgmac1106 smart duh
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[relapse] [jgmac1106] Is it something like https://www.inmotionhosting.com/support/website/htaccess/redirect-without-changing-url you're after? Using the Example 1's redirect w' Example 3's [R=301,L] for a permanent move? Note you'd have to turn on redirecting in the .htaccess via `RewriteEngine On` first.
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[relapse] If the pre-archive domain is now your static site, you'll need to check for 404s as [tantek] says via `RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
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[relapse] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d`
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jgmac1106 relapse tantek thank you, this will help
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jgmac1106 currently I am hunting one extra bracket, that is brreakin gmy read post plugin I want to release…one rascally bracket…I will find you
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[relapse] cursed brackets.
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jgmac1106 found it
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jgmac1106 and Known read plugin is shipped
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jgmac1106 now just need to make a Following post type plugin and I am done…but that will be for IWC Austin
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@metbril D RosemaryOrchard I am wondering why you say you are working on webmention for grav (https://indieweb.org/User:Rosemaryorchard.com) while there already is a plugin? (twitter.com/_/status/1077581083473072128)
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@metbril @RosemaryOrchard Any special reason why you are working on webmention for grav (https://indieweb.org/User:Rosemaryorchard.com) while there already is a plugin? (twitter.com/_/status/1077581707845480448)
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kisik21 any good libraries to send web push notifications from server-side python code?
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[kevinmarks] You mean websub?
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[kevinmarks] Or browser notifications?
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kisik21 [kevinmarks]: browser notifications
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kisik21 for websub I use requests, it's fairly simple to do... just ping a hub and that's all
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kisik21 switchboard++
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Loqi switchboard has 2 karma over the last year
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kisik21 please remind me - how to mark up next/previous page links in h-feeds? or should I just do something like /all page that doesn't use pagination?
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[jgmac1106] @kisik21 it isn't anything to do with microformats use rel=next and rel=prev I think
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kisik21 yeah right thanks @jgmac1106
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KartikPrabhu well rel values do count as microformats, but that is the right solution
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kisik21 I think this needs to be documented
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kisik21 btw do any readers make use of rel=(prev|next)?
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KartikPrabhu what is pagination
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Loqi pagination is a UI pattern for navigation across (typically chronologically) sequential pages that show one or more posts such as permalink post pages, archives, search results, and lists of tagged posts https://indieweb.org/pagination
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kisik21 KartikPrabhu: maybe add a "How to Markup" section?
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KartikPrabhu kisik21: feel free to add
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kisik21 wait, how to mark up monospaced blocks in mediawiki? I used markdown by accident
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KartikPrabhu kisik21: see other how to markup examples like https://indieweb.org/h-card#How
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kisik21 KartikPrabhu: done
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Zegnat “do any readers make use of rel=(prev|next)?” - not that I know
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[schmarty] There was a "top 9" crawler that someone made to find your top 9 photo posts by number of displayed likes (and other responses?). It used h-feed with rel=next/prev to traverse a site's archive.
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[tantek] what is rel-prev
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[tantek] what is rel-next
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "rel-prev" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "rel-prev is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "rel-next" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "rel-next is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[schmarty] !tell cweiske Looks like chat search is returning no results for all queries
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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sknebel [schmarty]: he knows, just hasn't gotten around to it yet
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[tantek] wondering how we should document use (publishing, consuming) of rel next prev
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[tantek] what is sequential navigation
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Loqi Navigation refers to the UI, UX and markup allowing people to move around a website https://indieweb.org/sequential_navigation
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[jgmac1106] What is pagination?
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Loqi pagination is a UI pattern for navigation across (typically chronologically) sequential pages that show one or more posts such as permalink post pages, archives, search results, and lists of tagged posts https://indieweb.org/pagination
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[jgmac1106] If anyone has any ideas I am blanking on writing reditect files in htaccess: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/12/25/trying-to-write-redirects-in-htaccessany-ideas