#dev 2019-01-06

2019-01-06 UTC
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[Rose] https://rosemaryorchard.com/microblog/20190106-005929
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[Rose] I guess this means I need a GitHub repo 😛
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[Rose] !tell jeremycharfas I finally have something you can theoretically drop into a Grav install and use as a MicroPub endpoint
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[relapse] Nicely done.
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[metbril] [Rose] Very nice. I did an attempt as well, still in alpha (Coding is not my day job) https://github.com/metbril/grav-plugin-micropub
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[metbril] [jeremycherfas] ^^^
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[tantek] [eddie] noting this here since it's kind of a dev philosophy / methodology thing:
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[tantek] Indeed, storage first is usually a fruitless endeavor because there's either too many possibilities so the storage needs seem overwhelming, or you make arbitrary storage simplifications which end up premature constraining your design / display options
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[eddie] Yeah, it’s funny how quickly and often you can forget that. Because I’ve read that and thought about that before
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[eddie] And yet when introduced to a new problem the dev in me wants to jump straight back to the storage
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[eddie] Haha
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[tantek] perhaps we can capture this on the wiki somehow as a reminder
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[tantek] what is storage
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Loqi storage in the context of the indieweb usually refers to how you are storing your data, specifically in what kind of storage format(s) https://indieweb.org/storage
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[tantek] maybe there?
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[eddie] Yeah that makes sense. I can create a “common pitfalls” section?
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[eddie] Done
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[tantek] eddie++ nicely done!
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Loqi eddie has 48 karma in this channel over the last year (88 in all channels)
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@jcfischer ↩️ I‘m using webmentions and some JS that pulls them in from an aggregator. See https://invisible.ch/2018/12/hugo-templating/ (source here https://www.amitgawande.com/display-webmentions/ ) (twitter.com/_/status/1081838604702359552)
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aaronpk does anyone's media endpoint return an HTTP 202 instead of 201?
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aaronpk related to https://github.com/aaronpk/micropub.rocks/issues/74
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Loqi [gerwitz] #74 70x: Accept 202 responses
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sknebel how would a client use that, given there's no look-up extension?
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jacky aaronpk: tbh, I punted on having mine return a 202 because I wanted to do transcoding and conversion in a separate task but that was too much for a MVP
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aaronpk sknebel: it would still require that it returns a URL just like micropub
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aaronpk so I guess it's really more of a signal to the client that the file might not exist at that URL yet so it shouldn't try to preview it or something
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jacky right
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sknebel oh, right, there was that weirdness
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sknebel forgot that was a thing in micropub
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jacky does webmention.io lean on any known spam networks to preemptively block some Webmentions?
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jacky I'm not too worried about spam but I want to keep it in mind (I'm rolling my own webmention system in Koype but it'll be ripped out into something else once I feel good to ship it standalone)
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aaronpk it does not, since there hasn't really been any webmention spam yet
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jacky word okay
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[kevinmarks] So how do you translate a 202 into a promise that you can resolve later?
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jacky a promise? like A+/JavaScript-style ones?
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jacky maybe via a callback
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jacky or prodding ?q=last
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aaronpk wait what
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aaronpk that's a very strange way to phrase that
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aaronpk you want the server to be able to tell the app when the URL is ready?
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[grantcodes] If anyone wants to try out the new PostrChild extension and is happy building it from source it is up at https://github.com/grantcodes/postrchild-extension - no release yet as it need's documentation on how to setup the new features