#dev 2019-02-10
2019-02-10 UTC
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[jgmac1106] so building a store for this site hittps://kevoglass.net and using snipcart really like that it fetches all your product data from the HTML...ain't much reason to but will add h-product so if anyone ever does do IndieWeb transaction processing site will be set
# [jgmac1106] ...and it looks like fix an h-card
# [jgmac1106] checkout how snipcart parses HTML and puts that into their online store: https://docs.snipcart.com/configuration/product-definition
# [jgmac1106] basically it would have to be that, I publish a product and it can be parsed and used in the store, connected to inventory backend, etc...
# [jgmac1106] I still think the credit card processors will own the day when it comes to small business websites
# [jgmac1106] I have to style it more but here is the template I am thinking for each product: https://kevoglass.glitch.me/Prodcuttemplate.html
# [jgmac1106] jacky yeah you know I want to connect with the indie art community like you
# [jgmac1106] but jacky this is actually a barter deal. I trade for food'
# [jgmac1106] they own a farm that is kind of a quasi co-op of farms in area, I build website get local organic meat and veggie
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@EddieHinkle ↩️ Great sounding plan!
I did a website transition with old webmentions on the back burner. It turned out fine, eventually I transitioned them and I didn’t really miss them in the mean time. (https://eddiehinkle.com/2019/02/10/1/reply/) (twitter.com/_/status/1094483074757394434)
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# [jgmac1106] aarponk++
# [jgmac1106] for the 2 million stores in apertutre, we should do a check in all the stats we can, aperture, webmentions, indieauth
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jeremycherfas Loqi, you really shouldn't be so accomodating.
# [jgmac1106] oooh look at that the Karma clock must have reset yesterday
# [jgmac1106] Guess 02-09 is the Karma new year
# [jgmac1106] aaronpk++
# [jgmac1106] okay better
# [jgmac1106] still makes me wonder when Karma new year us
# [jgmac1106] Would there be any point in adding a tutorial to wordpress.com on how to add an h-card?
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[kevinmarks] Foursquare used to show you a point scatter plot for each venue of where people's phones said they were wwhe checking in
# [kevinmarks] One thing they do is order venues by the number of checkins closest to where your phone says, rather than actual coordinate.
# [kevinmarks] Which helps smooth out the anomalies between GPS, WiFi and cell locations
# [kevinmarks] But you need a lot of checkins to do that
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# [kevinmarks] Has anyone looked at https://www.gatsbyjs.org/ - claims to be a react based ssg
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Loqi Gatsby is a React-based static site generator with live preview https://indieweb.org/gatsby
# [kevinmarks] [tantek] re: hosting - could you host on a node backend as cassis is agnostic? Or would you need more wrappers?
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# [jgmac1106] kevinmarks you know blogger well would there be any point in telling a blogger user who added webmentions with bridgy to add an h-card to their site?
# jeremycherfas I'm trying to wrap my head round a problem that is currently preventing me from working on micropub for my Grav site. It is all to do with github and going back and forth between live site, github and local development site.
# jeremycherfas At the moment, I tend to write locally, push a commit to github, and then there is a webhook on the live site to which github pushes any changes.
# jeremycherfas If I want to micropub direct to the live site, it is simplest if those new posts go straight to the live site. That puts the live site ahead of github and the local site. There is a grav plugin that aims to synchronise between live site and github, but last time I tried that I made an awful mess of everything.
# jeremycherfas So here's my question (finally). Can I simply commit and push once a day from the live site back to github, and then pull from github to my local site when I want to tweak things?
# jeremycherfas That way, automated posts, mostly notes of one sort or another, would go direct to live site. More considered writing would take place locally. Commits from live to github and from local to github would keep everything in sync, I hope.
# jeremycherfas Does that seem workable?
# jeremycherfas Because I am not entirely sure how to trigger the push after the micropub request.
# jeremycherfas Grav does have such an event hook, yes. I believe that to use it would require the micropub endpoint to be a plugin, as metbril is working on, rather than "pure" PHP that [Rose] has.
# jeremycherfas I'm always nervous about automating things I don't fully understand.
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Zegnat Doing some good ol’ “here is an accessibility feature you all forget about” again, because that’s what my mind got dragged into today: https://twitter.com/martijnvdven/status/1094603989268738048
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@martijnvdven I was just rereading https://axesslab.com/title-texts-suck/ (probably via @adactio) and wanted to add an oft forgotten “suck”: if you up your cursor size on macOS (Accessibility → Display) it will cover up title text, easily covering up the first word. Not limited to browsers either. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzDQKDaWkAEhR0p.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1094603989268738048)
# jeremycherfas I sort of understand how webhooks allow github to push to a site. I don't yet know how to push from a site TO github.
# jeremycherfas But I'm reading.
# jeremycherfas Right.
# jeremycherfas Ah. So I should look in there to see how they do it.
# jeremycherfas I think what confuses me most is whether the live site is another remote, as far as github is concerned.
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[schmarty] jeremycherfas: every git clone can act as a remote for another. whether github considers a given clone at all depends on what you are trying to accomplish.
# jeremycherfas Thanks [schmarty]. I can see that my remote can fetch from and push to origin, so that's good.
# jeremycherfas Yup. Both local and live can fetch and push. Excellent.
# jeremycherfas Possibly because I was even more confused about remotes and origins, I may have set it up wrong. But it seemed to create a whole lot of new files and folders that were not there originally. Maybe I should just try again. The instructions are geared towards creating entirely an entirely new origin. I think you are right, sknebel. I should look at it again, more carefully.
# jeremycherfas Sure. But the plugin does the hefty lifting. If I can work out more or less what it is doing, I will try again.
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@bridgetstewart I've been trying to follow along with Max's code examples for how to get webmention sends working with Twitter. Still working out kinks. https://www.bridgestew.com/notes/2019-02-08-22-45/ (twitter.com/_/status/1094612412119040001)
# jeremycherfas !tell sknebel I think this issue is similar to the behaviour I saw https://github.com/trilbymedia/grav-plugin-git-sync/issues/117
# Loqi sknebel: jeremycherfas left you a message 1 minute ago: I think this issue is similar to the behaviour I saw https://github.com/trilbymedia/grav-plugin-git-sync/issues/117
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# jeremycherfas That I cannot say :) But the fact that it is unresolved is scary.
# jeremycherfas I agree. And the walkthrough assumes you will create a new repo for it to use.
# [jgmac1106] I was just going to use a widget
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# [kevinmarks] [jgmac1106] yes, editing blogger template to add h-card is definitely doable.
# [kevinmarks] Css like I need to fix the image
# [kevinmarks] I have an mf1 hcard lol
# [jgmac1106] yeah then we will have a wordpress.com, a blogger.com, wordpress.org, and Known tutorials on Getting Started
# [kevinmarks] yes, an HTML/CSS widget works
# jeremycherfas Tried again with the git-sync plugin for grav and although it seemed to be working, the live site now reports that mytheme does not exist and absolutely nothing will load. Here's hoping git can save the day.
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@jgmac1106 How to Add Webmentions to Blogger: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/10/how-to-add-webmentions-to-blogger (twitter.com/_/status/1094636728630083585)
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# jeremycherfas Disaster undone. That gitsync plugin for Grav does a whole lot of things I do not begin to understand, like deleting all themes except one, and that's not the one I use. Took forever to get back to where I was, but I'm there now.
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@miklb Just had a thought. I know you can run arbitrary Jekyll plugins in a GitHub action–I bet you can send/receive webmentions too! (https://miklb.com/blog/2019/02/10/4719/) (twitter.com/_/status/1094672976925069312)
# jeremycherfas Agreed. I think manual pushes might be the way to go, at least to begin with.
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# [jgmac1106] h-feed++
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jacky like at https://v2.jacky.wtf/ I show the more recently non-reply entry and then link to the whole feed
# jacky has anyone seen https://getstream.io/ before?
# jacky Got a new visit from their RSS reader https://getstream.io/winds/
# jacky re: timestamps, I did fix it for my event rendering https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/91a264de-be63-46f0-ab98-270c7736ba5a
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# @bridgetstewart I've been trying to follow along with Max's code examples for how to get webmention sends working with Twitter. Still working out kinks. https://www.bridgestew.com/notes/2019-02-08-22-45/ (twitter.com/_/status/1094709568712699909)
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