#dev 2019-02-24
2019-02-24 UTC
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[dougbeal] Maybe I will write a php/WordPress overcast to listen translator
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gRegorLove tantek: confirmed Dreamhost PHP has Tidy and XSL modules. Or did you say XSLT?
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gRegorLove Let me know if there's other modules you want to check for
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gRegorLove actually this should tell you: there's phpinfo links for each version they have https://help.dreamhost.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001301686-Default-PHP-settings-at-DreamHost
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gRegorLove maybe that it's shared hosting
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gRegorLove Also found some details for compiling other modules on shared, so I know that's possible. There's even an article for compiling your own version of PHP and using that. https://help.dreamhost.com/hc/en-us/articles/217253537-Installing-ImageMagick-and-the-imagick-PHP-module-on-Shared-hosting
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Loqi DreamHost is a web hosting company https://indieweb.org/DreamHost
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[tantek] found via rayna's site: https://html5up.net/ - responsive HTML5+CSS3 templates, cc licensed
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[cleverdevil] I used that for indiepaper.io
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[cleverdevil] It rules 😀
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Loqi HTML (HyperText Markup Language) is the language used to create web pages, thus one of the building blocks of the IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/HTML5
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[tantek] HTML5 << https://html5up.net/ - responsive HTML5+CSS3 templates, CC licensed
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Loqi ok, I added "https://html5up.net/ - responsive HTML5+CSS3 templates, CC licensed" to the "See Also" section of /HTML https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=57255&oldid=55219
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kisik21 Interesting. As soon as I moved my backend server from yuki (my RPi) to sakura (my laptop) it became a lot more speedy. Does it mean that I need more optimisations on the server side?
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kisik21 !tell ben_thatmustbeme is syndication in Inkstone working? don't see any options
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jeremycherfas Looking for some assistance to convert a subscribe form for a mailing list to use a specific form builder.
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jeremycherfas The code I have, which works fine, is here https://gist.github.com/jeremycherfas/33aa3d3596f3553786b53148541bc586
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jeremycherfas As I understand it, that send the contents of a field named `bd-email` to the URL `https://buttondown.email/jeremycherfas`
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jeremycherfas But I don't understand what the `popupwindow` part does, because when I test the form, there is no popup, only the window itself.
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jgmac1106 jeremycherfas…I am working on form building and lightweight data storage as well.//looks cool: https://buttondown.email/
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jeremycherfas The reason I want to use a different form, from FormCraft, is that I want thestyling of two different forms to be similar, and one of them I can only display using Formcraft.
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jeremycherfas No, that isn't it.
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jeremycherfas Not with the way widgets work in WP, because things get wrapped in all sorts of stuff like `aside` and so on
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jeremycherfas FormCraft gives me the opportunity to send the information to a custom URL, but at the moment I can't quite work out the details. And I cannot see the POST data that the original form is actually sending.
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jeremycherfas Right; but I cannot see the content of the POST. Let me look again.
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jeremycherfas Actually, for testing purposes, I should be able to make a page that just contains the form, right?
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jeremycherfas The form collects an email and sends it to a sign-up page. I want to know what it is sending, so I can try to mimic that from inside FormCraft.
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jeremycherfas Very helpful; thanks. I wonder what the embed does. Ned to mimic that in FormCraft and see.
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jeremycherfas Interesting. FormCraft gts a certificate rror. I think I'm going to have to revrt to plan A and attempt some better styling.
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jeremycherfas And my keyboard needs cleaning.
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ https://davegoesthedistance.com goes next. He uses a ton of subdomains (me too!) Is redesigning is puzzle site, and looking at adding webmentions for answers....I think Dave needs to look into webmention badges. Also trying to eat every Taco in Fort Worth (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1yUURN) (twitter.com/_/status/1099648953308581888)
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[chaitanya] Hi! I was looking for PHP based static website generators... are Sculpin and Jigsaw good options? Is there any other PHP based static site generators you would like to recommend?
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petermolnar https://www.staticgen.com/ => select php
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[chaitanya] [petermolnar_] Thank you so much!
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[kevinmarks] !tell Tantek if you're still looking for hosting, this link gives you a $20 credit at linode https://promo.linode.com/rocket/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=promo&utm_campaign=rocket
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Loqi [tantek]: [kevinmarks] left you a message 7 minutes ago: if you're still looking for hosting, this link gives you a $20 credit at linode https://promo.linode.com/rocket/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=promo&utm_campaign=rocket
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[kevinmarks] You could run woodwind locally
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[grantcodes] [tantek] not sure a clientside sever would make much sense. But a client that reads and caches a server would probably be useful.
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[grantcodes] Ah ok, that was very different from what I was imagining from "support clientside"
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[kevinmarks] There is a .well-known convention for dat equivalent
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[kevinmarks] Eg www.kevinmarks.com/.well-known/dat
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[jgmac1106] tried to get @mapkyca to stop in yesterday he has interesting plans for social readers and ifps
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gRegorLove aaronpk: This fixes the representative h-card test on indiewebify.me https://github.com/indieweb/indiewebify-me/pull/79
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jeremycherfas Well, it has taken the best part of the day, but I did manage to style my new sign-up form so that it more or less matches my other form.
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jeremycherfas Good enough, at any rate.
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jeremycherfas Just one remaining problem: how do you ensure that a form field is emptied when you reload a page?
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gRegorLove do you mean preventing autofill by the browser?
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jeremycherfas Saving myself from having the same email in the form if I reload after testing. I guess it doesn't really matter.
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jeremycherfas No, not autofill. If someone has typed and email and clicked submit, when they come back the email is still there. Although they get a message saying it all worked, I don't want them to click over and over again.
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jeremycherfas OK. I can accept that.
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jeremycherfas And though moving from MailChimp to Buttondown might not be the greatest silo escape ever, it does feel good.
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jeremycherfas I put back the target=popupwindow because it actually functions much better that way for a visitor who wants to sign up.
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jeremycherfas No idea. I can ask the developer. He's really responsive, but I didn't want to bother him on a Sunday.
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jeremycherfas Would you mind just trying it for me; no need actually to sign up. The form is at the bottom right of this page https://www.eatthispodcast.com/how-to-subscribe/
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jeremycherfas I could, but as they get an opt-in email, I'm hoping that's enough. The Thank you page has to contain some sort of GDPR wordage.
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jeremycherfas (It doesn't exist yet!)
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jeremycherfas That's great. Thanks [jgmac1106]++
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jeremycherfas I'll try and remember to ask.
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jeremycherfas But there are a gazillion newsletter plugins, aren't there?
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jgmac1106 this was my attempt: https://jgregorymcverry.com/opensourceblogging.html I need to do better media queries but taking it slow
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Hey #IndieWeb would it be easier to just use form onSubmit="WriteToFile(this) to a txt file or document.getElementById("demo").innerHTML..and now I am just walking in circles as I need to settle on a direction...or just demo webmention badges (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1oUS9w) (twitter.com/_/status/1099738217543319553)
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gRegorLove what is Mailchimp?
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Loqi MailChimp is a service for sending emails https://indieweb.org/MailChimp
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gRegorLove What is Buttondown?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Buttondown" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Buttondown is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Loqi Buttondown is a hosted newsletter service designed for personal use https://indieweb.org/Buttondown
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gRegorLove Buttondown << https://buttondown.email/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://buttondown.email/" to a brand new "See Also" section of /Buttondown https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=57328&oldid=57327
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@jgmac1106 well gonna call it quits and demo my updates on webmention badges....I have littered the web with my failed attempts to simply have an html form publish a guestbook on my wesbite. form building should be "hello world" but I not ready. Got closeish… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/24/well-gonna-call-it-quits-and-demo (twitter.com/_/status/1099757592870572034)
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dougbeal sknebel: https://dougbeal.com/.well-known/test.html gives 404
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dougbeal the files are all here https://github.com/dougbeal/docker-dougbeal.com/tree/master/webserver-wordpress/conf.d
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[dougbeal] I think I was moving mount points around to have multiple sites, I will start there
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sknebel and you have /.well-known/ subfolder?
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jacky and I might be speed reading this wrong but this: "A location can either be defined by a prefix string, or by a regular expression. Regular expressions are specified with the preceding “~*” modifier (for case-insensitive matching), or the “~” modifier (for case-sensitive matching). " seems to indicate that only * is regex-friendly
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gRegorLove woo, completed my IWC projects and posted about them before demos even :)
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gRegorLove dougbeal, we fixed a small indiewebify.me issue that was saying your h-card was representative when it was
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gRegorLove *wasn't representative when it *was*
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[jgmac1106] [dougbeal] look at your double webmention. One from Twitter coming in as Gravatar have seen this from [mrkrndvs] as well
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