#dev 2019-03-29

2019-03-29 UTC
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[jgmac1106] Total distance, duration, datetime start, datetime end, steps, change in Altitude
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GWG [jgmac1106]: Change is calculated
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GWG I would have to store latitude, longitude, altitude, user id, timestamp...
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[jgmac1106] Oh yes flights
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GWG Flights?
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[jgmac1106] I found an app on f-droid called trackbook exports gpx files. Going to try and use that. Just save the gpx files to my site
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GWG Well, the idea is that you could generate other things from this.
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[jgmac1106] Ohh yes that is the plus of the database
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jacky I want to talk more about this (re: using GPX stuff)
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jacky https://f-droid.org/packages/net.osmand.plus/ lets you send GPX data to a server during trips (it can hint the mode of transit as well)
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GWG I was looking at GPSLogger
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GWG It can log to a custom URL
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jacky oh nice
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GWG It supports latitude, longitude, annotation, satellites, altitude, speed, accuracy, direction, provider, timestamp, battery, activity, travelled..
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GWG So, I need at least the latitude, longitude, altitude, speed, accuracy, direction, provider, timetamp, battery, activity, travelled, and user_id.
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GWG I have to reread how to store that in a database.
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[jgmac1106] Jacky this great
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jacky yeah; I've been looking to drop google maps (in part of my de-googling) and it's been great (so far)
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jacky GWG: did you mean https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.fabiszewski.ulogger/?
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[jgmac1106] Yeah so what settings do you you use to not share location data with Google but keep your GPS on?
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[jgmac1106] Will poke around for that. This app looks amazing. Can't believe how robust
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GWG https://gpslogger.app/
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GWG Lots of choices
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jacky oh that looks a lot cleaner
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[jgmac1106] Thinking csv->to mySQL?
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GWG Who?
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GWG Me?
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[jgmac1106] Yeah
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GWG No. I intend to have a simple API.
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[jgmac1106] .... Though looking at the Android intents.... Maybe it is a start and stop in the trip post type swentel adds to Indigineous
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GWG That the GPS Logger software can trigger.
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GWG The auth being indieauth
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[jgmac1106] Ahh the custom url
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GWG And import the files from my existing data
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GWG But, as I said, I haven't thought seriously about database schema in years. I need to read up on that
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jacky [jgmac1106]: I use https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.microg.nlp
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[jgmac1106] You need to do a session on deGoogling Android at the Summit
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GWG The alternative, as I said, is to install and contribute to Compass.
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GWG Which is also an option.
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GWG But I like building things into my existing system
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[jgmac1106] You still are even if you build with others
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[jgmac1106] Do you flash a custom ROM or just keep stock Android?
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GWG I keep stock
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GWG [jgmac1106]: I think Compass is more than I'm looking for though.
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GWG So, on the fence.
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jacky GWG: IIRC, it still uses the device's lookup tooling to send the location no?
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GWG What do you mean by lookup tooling?
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jacky like iirc compass receives coordinates for location from a device. where do those coordinates from?
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GWG The device has GPS.
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GWG I thought you meant, it looks up the name of the location
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jacky nah but gotcha, I think I misunderstood thing
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jacky s/thing$/then$/g
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gRegorLove !tell Rose definitely open to PR on https://github.com/gregorlove/indiebookclub ! Are you thinking API or RSS?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [gRegorLove] indiebookclub: indiebookclub is a simple app for tracking books you are reading https://indiebookclub.biz
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[Rose] I was thinking RSS
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Loqi [Rose]: gRegorLove left you a message 2 hours, 43 minutes ago: definitely open to PR on https://github.com/gregorlove/indiebookclub ! Are you thinking API or RSS?
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@jgmac1106 I will be doing a presentation on #webemention badges at #PressEdConf19 https://2019.pressedconf.org/?easyconfpr=webmention-badges learn how to own your assessment from your own domain and escape the constant pivots, patents, and providers in #openbadges space #openrecognition #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1jm6nS) (twitter.com/_/status/1111593978170953728)
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Zegnat !tell jgmac1106 I hear you like grids ;) https://v6.robweychert.com/blog/2019/03/css-grid-sophisticated-partitioning/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106] with a shout out to the Trocadero a high school hang out of mine
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Loqi [jgmac1106]: Zegnat left you a message 10 minutes ago: I hear you like grids ;) https://v6.robweychert.com/blog/2019/03/css-grid-sophisticated-partitioning/
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[jgmac1106] Dead Milken, Ween.. I want that show https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/20/big-lizard-in-my-backyard
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Loqi [Greg McVerry] I carried this LP all over the place in middle school. The irony and anger captured in late eighties early nineties hard core and punk revival. Love it, the musical version of 
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[jgmac1106] I am not ready for the partioning trying to take it slow with learning Grid so I don't start copy pasting stuff I don't know
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Zegnat That is probably the correct way to go [jgmac1106] :D
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[jgmac1106] ....yeah so instead I write CSS Grid stuff that doesn't work...
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[jgmac1106] no it isn;t that bad something about in my head just clicks, though I only do implic and explicit yet don't know how all that fancy math stuff works
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[jgmac1106] but I think in section and boxes, partition ideas that way, remix them and stack thoughts in my head helps to do the same with layout for me
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[jgmac1106] ...but now I am wondering chicken in the egg...do I think this way because of the web or is the web this way because this is how people think....especiallyy addiction to thinking in threes
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[jgmac1106] okay this is no longer dev
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[jgmac1106] zegnat the page is a great collection of listen posts: https://tinnitus.robweychert.com/'
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[jgmac1106] dangit zegnat you might have ruined my IWC New Haven goals....now I want to add a a new collection of h-events for my musical shows
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Zegnat I serve to please ;)
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[jgmac1106] that is a model way to design a collection of collections,
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[jgmac1106] down to the animations on the dials, simply brilliant
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[jgmac1106] does this look like a bunch of timeout errors on bridgy https://brid.gy/twitter/jgmac1106 looks like I havent gotten webmentions from Twitter in a few months
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[jgmac1106] it's like no matter what platform I choose the internet wants to make sure webmentions don't work...couldn't receive on WordPress and now not sending on Known....this should be diagnosable though
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Zegnat Yep, looks like it is timing out retrieving your site even, so it never finds your webmention endpoint to send to in the first place
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[jgmac1106] okay the only error in the log was from the html5 video tag plugin..not sure why <video> tag needs a plugin to work but deleted and will kick Bridgy
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Yeah just realized I am having a timeout issue with recieving and sending webmentions....trying to get to bottom of it now....at least it is always saved on my website....I know some teachers in North Andover into tech as well. They might… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/03/29/briandigital-yeah-just-realized-i-am-having (twitter.com/_/status/1111642161353756672)
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jacky any ideas why brid.gy sometimes can't generate source URIs for a tweet? https://brid.gy/post/twitter/Marvel/1111598781265518592
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jacky maybe the underyling account's blocked?
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[jgmac1106] [29-Mar-2019 14:52:17 UTC] Known (quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com): debug - HSTS Found, so endpoint call is now going to https://mastodon.social/api/oembed.json?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmastodon.social%2Fusers%2FGargron%2Fupdates%2F12832745
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[jgmac1106] getting this one error over and over again...deleted all Mastodon plugins..just can't get rid of it: [29-Mar-2019 14:52:17 UTC] Known (quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com): debug - mastodon.social has previously had HSTS
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jacky s/underyling/underlying/g
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[jgmac1106] maybe I should just remove all the Bridgy Fed stuff since that never worked either, do something to try and speed things up so I am not timing out....no idea now why I can't receive webmentions
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[jgmac1106] that didn't fix it...giving up for awhile......need to work....but wondering if I ust need to do a wholw new fresh install....I think I might. I am quite annoyed
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GWG Lunchtime
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snarfed jacky: re that bridgy URL, the username should be the bridgy user, not the tweet author. maybe confusing, sorry. you want https://brid.gy/post/twitter/jackyalcine/1111598781265518592
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Loqi [Marvel Entertainment] Heroes soar higher, further, faster! 💙⭐️❤️ This new picture book featuring #CaptainMarvel explores the superpowers in all of us: bit.ly/2FHBXlC https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D20xM2mW0AAbtFo.jpg
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snarfed https://brid.gy/about#source-urls
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GWG Hi, snarfed
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snarfed hey GWG
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snarfed [jgmac1106]: fwiw those look like just debug logs, not errors. (logging is good in general. log lines aren't necessarily all errors. :P)
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GWG snarfed, I can't remember if I told you that pfefferle wants to merge Semantic Linkbacks into Webmention
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[jgmac1106] ahh okay thx, just trying to look for anything to what slowing me down
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jacky oooh that's interesting
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Zegnat jgmac1106: also of note, HSTS may even give you the slightest of speed bumps, so that logging message would be the oposite of slowing down
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jacky new goal - making the act of posting async b/c right now it's taking over a second to do so :(
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jacky aaronpk: is there a way to surface if you've interacted with a post before in Monocle?
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jacky or is this something the microsub server would have to handle
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[schmarty] i think it's currently outside the scope of microsub or would be on the client to track.
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[schmarty] because the client is going to "interact" with that post by sending something to your micropub endpoint. the micropub endpoint wouldn't have a reason to see that.
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jacky hmm
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@ChrisAldrich It’s not exactly an implementation of Webmention, but I was interested to find that there’s a tool from @hypothes_is that will show you their annotations (& replies) on your website. Examples for @mrkrndvs & @wiobyrne [more...] #DoOO #edTech #IndieWeb https://boffosocko.com/2019/03/29/55747531/ (twitter.com/_/status/1111704494985732096)
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jacky man bridgy is amazing lol
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@judell ↩️ facet is a browser-based variant of https://hypothes.is/search, with experimental support for viewing/searching replies, export, and inline editing. I'm thinking webmention requires a server, and that https://github.com/judell/h_notify could be extended in that direction, what do you think? (twitter.com/_/status/1111714576167403520)
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@schmarty Loving the @Adafruit #PyPortal as an #IndieWeb powered photo device. Uses #Microsub and #IndieAuth building blocks. Code to come! (twitter.com/_/status/1111717483407462405)
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gRegorLove snarfed++ for bridging all the things
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Loqi snarfed has 51 karma in this channel over the last year (87 in all channels)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Let me check bitninja I have gotten flagged for http://Brid.gy on my shared host because bitninja list bridgy IP as spam (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/NWMtw) (twitter.com/_/status/1111727715319713793)
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@jgmac1106 Hey @chrisaldrich Twitter was never supposed to be a one a way dialogue.. Want to set up a "dialogue" about #edu522, #IndieWeb and how the webmention badges worked on @WordPress for #PressEdConf19? (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/vVQgf) (twitter.com/_/status/1111728295903707136)
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Zegnat ^^^ that would explain a lot, jgmac1106!
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[eddie] [schmarty] jacky Microsub DOES have a brainstorming note about tracking if you have interacted with the post, but nothing has been determined yet
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