#dev 2019-04-07

2019-04-07 UTC
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GWG Reading aaronpk's book and the part on refresh tokens
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@mrjyn .@aaronpk is raking in @CSS-cash. King of #indieweb (make sure you check out this punk rock, web-fail: you could have owned your @Twitter and god knows what else if @T ruled the #www-orld), #webmentions, #100DaysofMusic, and what i had to drink https://whatgetsmehot.blogspot.com/2019/04/aaron-parecki-drank-write-post-king-of.html (twitter.com/_/status/1114781507485360129)
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KartikPrabhu wtf ^^
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hi1 hello anyone online?
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sknebel jacky: sure, rel=alternate hreflang=XX is a general recommendation. after talking it through with Zegnat a bit I think I'd go towards having no link in the mf2, even if that makes some consuming cases harder
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GWG Rereading the webmention spec
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GWG swentel, I had a crazy idea that I decided I am not going to try to talk you into
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swentel haha
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swentel GWG, i'm always interested in crazy ideas
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GWG You maintain Indigenous for Android
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GWG How about Overland for Android?
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swentel what's overland?
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GWG What is Overland?
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Loqi Overland is an iOS app for location tracking that can send its data to a custom server https://indieweb.org/Overland
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GWG https://overland.p3k.app/
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swentel oh yeah
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swentel I've thought about it for a couple of minutes once
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swentel but then abandoned that :)
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GWG I have had trouble finding something that is that configurable
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swentel GWG, it's easy to send location every x minutes or so
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swentel but not sure about all those other options
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sknebel GWG: curious, which parts are you interested in over GPSLogger?
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GWG Trips
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GWG I suppose I could open an issue
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Be better off asking in dev but I think this is how many webmention clients work, they parse the mf2 and store json (I think??). reply could be trivial. Site A and Site B talking. Microformats provide context. You should make a webmention client… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/04/07/btopro-be-better-off-asking-in-dev (twitter.com/_/status/1114870834819158017)
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sknebel you could use the waypoint feature to mark trips
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GWG Waypoint?
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Zegnat What is GPSLogger?
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Loqi Zegnat: [fluffy] left you a message 14 hours, 58 minutes ago: Yeah I’d rather not mess with dnsmasq but I’m aware of that as an option. Thanks!
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Loqi GPSLogger is an android application for logging GPS information to various formats (kml, gpx, txt) and send to various endpoints https://indieweb.org/GPSLogger
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[aaronpk] I just had a request from someone else to make an android version of Overland
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Loqi [aaronpk]: GWG left you a message 2 days, 1 hour ago: Nothing. No output. Monitoring the redis server I see the job being added in there
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sknebel GWG: you can press a button to save a waypoint in the log
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GWG aaronpk, oh?
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GWG Who?
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[aaronpk] Dunno, on a github issue
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GWG sknebel, there is an annotation feature
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sknebel same thing
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GWG sknebel, I said I decided not to try to talk swentel into it
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GWG But Gpslogger isn't geared toward continuous monitoring
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GWG I could always do it myself
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[aaronpk] Doesn't owntracks do continuous monitoring?
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Zegnat I thought GPSLogger also did continuous tracking?
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GWG They restarted development
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GWG Zegnat, it does, but the distance tracked is since you started the app
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GWG I haven't looked at Owntracks since it was abandoned and restarted
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GWG Maybe I should again
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sknebel GPSLogger can send you points live via HTTP, or upload files in regular intervals. I haven't build anything live with it yet, but I'm not sure what's missing
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Zegnat The only thing I wish my background GPS tracker (Backitude) offered was a sort of sport/run/exercise mode. Where I could easily switch it from its general (batery preserving) interval tracking to continued GPS tracking for more exact tracking of bike rides.
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GWG sknebel, just some settings
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GWG I may open an issue
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sknebel what kind of settings?
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GWG The duration displayed is total since started. I would want individual counters
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sknebel okay, what the app shows wouldn't be important to me, since I only use it for the logged data
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sknebel but a "new section" button sounds like a realistic addition
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GWG Exactly
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I wouldn't send faculty a W3C spec. I sent you one. For faculty I would do something like: https://alistapart.com/article/webmentions-enabling-better-communication-on-the-internet But I also want to push back on narrative it is about making the tools frictionless. We also need faculty to step up and learn… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/04/07/btopro-i-wouldnt-send-faculty-a-w3c (twitter.com/_/status/1114884215936618503)
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GWG https://github.com/mendhak/gpslogger/issues/733
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Loqi [dshanske] #733 Sections/Legs
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GWG Slow of late
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sknebel chat here?
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GWG Yes
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GWG Sknebel, what is on your plate?
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sknebel current project is allowing posts with translations in other languages on my site
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sknebel also need to do some microformats/mf2py maintenance
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GWG I am thinking about webmentions
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GWG Working to update my implementation
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sknebel what are you updating? I seem to remember talk about a different storage format?
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GWG Well, when pfefferle implemented webmentions initially, he tried to make them mirror pingbacks
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GWG But they do much more
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GWG So different design is needed
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GWG Type of response is more important than protocol
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GWG So, when he did ActivityPub he designed it that way, so I am trying to realign to match
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sknebel makes sense
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GWG Migrating the data is a pain
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GWG Collectively, WordPress users have thousands of items
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