#dev 2019-06-01

2019-06-01 UTC
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[eddie]
Hmm, I read it both ways
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[eddie]
Ohhh I see the part I read about that was web share API to share target
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snarfed
ok grantcodes[m] aaronpk chrisaldrich and anyone else, ready for you all to test facebook email backfeed if you want
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snarfed
(i already regret building it)
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[tantek]
"facebook email backfeed" oh boy
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Loqi
[snarfed] #854 facebook backfeed via email notifications
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[tantek]
oh my goodness this opens a can
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snarfed
yeah i know please close it and seal it in concrete and bury it
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[tantek]
I mean. SO. MANY. SERVICES. SEND. THESE.
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snarfed
many of those also have APIs
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snarfed
s/many/most/
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[tantek]
I literally have a Gmail label called "socialnetworkgesture" for these
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aaronpk
if only there was a way to post to facebook from email
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[tantek]
uh yes that's doable πŸ™ˆ
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aaronpk
wait really??
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[tantek]
"Reply to this email to comment on this post."
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[tantek]
πŸ˜‚
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aaronpk
cause the main reason i stopped posting to facebook is because the api turned off
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snarfed
aaronpk did say *post*
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[tantek]
hey, a comment is a *post*
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snarfed
in twitter sure, in fb no
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[tantek]
is trolled into checking FB on a laptop
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[tantek]
s/trolled/nerdsniped
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[tantek]
ah: "Facebook's post-by-email functionality, which was released in 2010 and which is described below, has been discontinued" https://www.lifewire.com/post-updates-and-upload-photos-by-email-in-facebook-1170534
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[tantek]
so you could just have a "Posts" post that you manually create yourself, and then POSSE your posts as comments to that post
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aaronpk
that won't show up for people right
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[tantek]
"show up for people" is a big "who know?" because of the algorithm
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aaronpk
i mean it won't look like a post
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[tantek]
people could choose to subscribe to notifications on that post πŸ˜‚
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[tantek]
then "comments" on there would "show up for people"
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snarfed
also ^ cc...who else posts on fb regularly?...GWG gRegorLove
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GWG
I don't. Like Aaronpk, I left when I stopped being able to use Bridgy with it
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snarfed
gotta run, back later tonight
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gRegorLove
Haha, not interested in posting to / backfeeding via email :)
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gRegorLove
I'm pretty much on FB for one single group these days. I'm trying to get them to move to a forum :)
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jacky
what is a cms
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Loqi
A content management system (often abbreviated as CMS) is software used to create, enter, edit, update, delete content on websites; some CMSs are used for IndieWeb sites, see the tables on this page for current usage https://indieweb.org/CMS
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infominer[m]
phew
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infominer[m]
apparently dont' have the og setup right... but that website is now built with hugo...
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infominer[m]
same website that used to run jekyll, same theme.. same exact website... haha almost exactly
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infominer[m]
that should help anyone switching from one to the other
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infominer[m]
Can see a few minor typos but pretty happy w myself
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[jgmac1106]
send it to indie news, greta post
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infominer[m]
:)
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infominer[m]
thanks jgmac1106
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jamietanna[m]
infominer great post! One thing I noticed when moving to Hugo was that I needed a newline before a list, which I think the front matter section is affected by
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infominer[m]
yes, I'm just learning about that newline list, though I'm not sure about the frontmatter port
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infominer[m]
part
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jamietanna[m]
Also have you looked at upgrading your Hugo version? There's tonnes of new stuff through to the latest version v0.55
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infominer[m]
well, as I said in the post, I chose an old version because its an old theme
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infominer[m]
it won't run the newest version
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infominer[m]
though I didn't explain that part
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jamietanna[m]
It looks like the front matter section is trying to use a list, but it's not rendering as one in the HTML
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jamietanna[m]
Ah that's fair enough - makes sense
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infominer[m]
which post?
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jamietanna[m]
Sorry, its this one πŸ‘†πŸΌ
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infominer[m]
what browser? I'm not seeing that on chromium
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infominer[m]
or maybe try clearing your cache, if you opened it up fast I may have fixed some things since then.
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infominer[m]
I've just updated it to include that information too about lists, and explaining why I'm looking for an older version
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infominer[m]
but you are entirely correct jamietanna I probably can go with a newer one
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infominer[m]
I'll figure out what the range is
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jamietanna[m]
Ah it's sorted now, good stuff - was using Firefox for Android v67
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infominer[m]
Thanks for the valuable feedback!
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infominer[m]
I really appreciate it, and will be focusing on comments now that I have a solid blog post
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infominer[m]
the others aren't really blogs, for the most part, but it's nice to use the blog function of an SSG
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jamietanna[m]
Definitely. I've created different "sections" as Hugo calls them, for different post types ie repost, bookmark, RSVP
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infominer[m]
yes yes, sounds marvelous :D
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infominer[m]
link?
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infominer[m]
I'm really excited because Hugo opens up a whole universe of themes, while Jekyll themes it can feel like looking for needles in the haystack.
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infominer[m]
and makes it easy to test new themes!!!
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jamietanna[m]
It definitely does, my favourite change was just the speed https://www.jvt.me/posts/2019/01/04/goodbye-jekyll-hello-hugo/
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infominer[m]
btw, do you know how to set my author \ site usernames for twitter cards?
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infominer[m]
trust me, I have some big projects that the speed will make manageable
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infominer[m]
archives can be a lot bigger than anything I'd create for myself, hah
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infominer[m]
like 1000 post website takes 6 minutes to build w jekyll
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jamietanna[m]
It depends on the theme I think
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jamietanna[m]
In fact it looks like I've hardcoded mine in the theme
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infominer[m]
is your website open source?
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infominer[m]
awesome! I really gotta get into gitlab, there's a whole universe of code I haven't explored at all
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infominer[m]
I probably just have to convert my old config settings... I must have set it but was just going for the basics to get this published... it was a marathon 2 day ordeal that didn't involve a ton of sleep
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infominer[m]
i really like your theme btw, that's why I was asking about the source
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jamietanna[m]
Oh no haha, sorry to hear that
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jamietanna[m]
Aw thanks, I can't take credit for most of it. But the upstream theme is a fair bit different, I've certainly made a lot of changes to suit what I want
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infominer[m]
well, the content and learning togther at the same time
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infominer[m]
now i have that and a link to your goodbye jekyll hello hugo posts on the article too βœ”
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jamietanna[m]
Aw nice, thanks!
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infominer[m]
and will become my hub for all things hugo until I make hugo resources its own post.
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Zegnat
What is Hugo?
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Loqi
Hugo is a static site generator written in Go https://indieweb.org/Hugo
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Zegnat
What is Jekyll?
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Loqi
Jekyll is Ruby software that helps you create "Simple, blog-aware, static sites" suitable for static domain hosting https://indieweb.org/Jekyll
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Zegnat
If you find intersting posts about either, do feel free to add to the wiki!
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Zegnat
(It can be as easy as typing β€œHugo << link” in chat, and Loqi will add it to the wiki)
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Loqi
Sorry, I couldn't find a page named "(It can be as easy as typing β€œHugo" or similar
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infominer[m]
yes, I will get involved in this wiki... I wasn't sure if i"d find one that I could get into
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infominer[m]
it's on my list ;)
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infominer[m]
I feel so happy right now. these are the moments I live for!
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infominer[m]
cause it's a ton of work, but now that content can go on to help a bunch of people for a long time
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://www.scottohara.me/note/2019/05/07/resources.html" to the "See Also" section of /accessibility https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=61976&oldid=61393
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[grantcodes]
So I'm working on replicating my site database to the browser so it will work totally offline, searching and everything. But having a ~15mb local db is maybe a bit excessive.
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Loqi
[grantcodes]: snarfed left you a message 22 hours, 20 minutes ago: hey everyone on https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/854 , if you're not currently receiving facebook email notifications for comments, likes, etc, you might want to turn them on. i'll be ready for you to test soon!
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[grantcodes]
So I am wondering what is best to keep in sync. I can probably ignore stuff like likes, watches and checkins. Maybe everything older than a year. But offline search is pretty handy...
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aaronpk
wow that'd be pretty neat
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aaronpk
15mb doesn't sound too bad to me either cause seems like these days websites have that much JavaScript just to load the content
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Zegnat
15 MB still feels like a lot. Could the search page maybe offer checkboxes that will download extra content to search through?
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Zegnat
[ ] Likes (this downloads X MB of data for offline searching)
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infominer[m]
good share @zeg
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infominer[m]
Zegnat: I need to remember this app doesn't autocomplete on enter
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infominer[m]
I mean the accessibility resources.
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infominer[m]
that's a topic I've not looked into yet
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sknebel
Question for folks thinking about AutoAuth + webmentions: https://github.com/sknebel/AutoAuth/issues/15 (/cc Zegnat, sebsel?)
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Loqi
[sknebel] #15 Details for private webmentions
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infominer[m]
!tell jamietanna now am upgraded to v.31.1 released a year after the theme was done building, and just before the next major change (page bundles)
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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infominer[m]
Now it will be trivial for me to test out the indieweb hugo themes
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infominer[m]
And integrate all my indieweb content with webwork.tools, and can get more exposure that way
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infominer[m]
Because more visitors to that blog w a wider and related scope
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jamietanna[m]
infominer: that's great to hear! How easy was it go upgrade?
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infominer[m]
I can just install deb ontop of deb to upgrade
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infominer[m]
but downgrade would require uninstall, I'm sure
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infominer[m]
I want to learn Hugo beter first, before I test out anything newer, but feel pretty good about it
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infominer[m]
and I just set a re-direct, hopefully that webwork.tools link works in like 30 minutes..
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infominer[m]
I didn't realize it would link here without https://
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infominer[m]
Interesting completes the link w no https on desktop but not mobile
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infominer[m]
Now im upgraded to the latest version and am fine tuning https://github.com/AngeloStavrow/indigo
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infominer[m]
Anyone here using indigo?
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Zegnat
Not me, but I see it mentioned on the wiki so someone knows about it, haha
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