#dev 2019-06-22

2019-06-22 UTC
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@samwilson Why am I building a blogging tool just to learn about webmentions? (twitter.com/_/status/1142240240817414146)
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jacky I have to do this video poster detection sooner than later D:
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@jgmac1106 Taking a break from trying to get the webmention plugin working on @getkirby and going to add in pagination to my notes https://testkirby.jgregorymcverry.com (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/2kwo3Q) (twitter.com/_/status/1142367779825291264)
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[Sonny] from a user perspective what is the difference between https://indieweb.org/Micropub-extensions#Post_Status and delete/undelete ?
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[jgmac1106] not sure? They can see something undeleted but not something deleted?
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[jgmac1106] !mf2 http://testkirby.jgregorymcverry.com/notes/
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Kaja_ https://php.microformats.io/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftestkirby.jgregorymcverry.com%2Fnotes%2F
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[Sonny] [jgmac1106] yeah that's what I had in mind but then there's no way from a micropub client to discover a post to undelete
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jgmac1106 if I am reading this page correctly these are proposed extensions, I am not sure any of the clients handle these extensions,may have to wait for folks smarterthan me for a real answer
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[Sonny] hmm undelete could be "undo delete" on a micropub client in case it supports undoing a destructive action, then there's no need for discovery
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[Sonny] not sure if that's the intention though, maybe [aaronpk] can clarify ?
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sknebel that or if you give the client the url
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sknebel the suggestions for clients to be able to discover posts on their own are generally newer work
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sknebel (and I couldn't tell you how widely supported delete/undelete actually are)
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[kevinmarks786] If you tombstone the post you can undelete it as the tombstone url still exists.
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[kevinmarks786] https://indieweb.org/deleted#Tombstoning
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[kevinmarks786] The other advantage of tombstones is that you can put them in your feeds so the deletion can be propagated
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[kevinmarks786] If clients support update, the tombstone should replace the older version, even if they don't support delete
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[Sonny] makes sense, thanks
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@WNXch Webmentions Test 1 https://stefanzweifel.io/posts/github-actions-for-php-developers/ (twitter.com/_/status/1142417027082194944)
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jgmac1106 [zegnat] this is what I am doing now, trying to add a featured image to a tempalte so I can recreate this: https://jgregorymcverry.com/articles.html
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jgmac1106 https://forum.getkirby.com/t/blueprint-add-single-image/13011
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jgmac1106 working on adding u-featured image and calling it in the post and list of articles
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Zegnat Interesting
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Zegnat Definitely good PHP practice working on those templates!
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jgmac1106 !mf2 http://testkirby.jgregorymcverry.com/blog/dude-where-is-my-h-card
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Kaja_ https://php.microformats.io/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftestkirby.jgregorymcverry.com%2Fblog%2Fdude-where-is-my-h-card
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Loqi [Greg McVerry] Dude where is my h-card?
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jgmac1106 thinking about trying to layout my h-card inside of the article header which spans rows 2-7 might , the h-card is in the header but I may want to display on right and not left, may have to nest some grids not sure…but happy progress I made
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[grantcodes] [Sonny] If a micropub endpoint has query support it could return deleted posts to a micropub client without them being publicly available online or tombstoned
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[Sonny] AFAIK there's no way to query deleted posts
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[grantcodes] Also jgmac1106: saw your message about wanting to use html not markdown I'm kirby, can you not just write html in the markdown field? I thought that was how markdown worked
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[grantcodes] [Sonny] there's proposals for micropub queries and a few implementations. I can query deleted posts on my endpoint but I don't know if anyone else has implemented it the same way as me
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aaronpk "there is no way" -- just because something is in a spec only matters as much as it's been implemented :)
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jgmac1106 will give it a shot, that is what folks on Twitter said. Never really was a markdown person
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[grantcodes] I'm about to roll out some more advanced micropub and undo / delete features in together so delete and undelete is on my mind right now
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@foobartel Webmentions on the go. Let’s see how it goes. I’m not sure yet, tbh. (twitter.com/_/status/1142466857766674433)
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aaronpk what is mod security?
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Loqi mod_security is a web application firewall for the Apache web server https://indieweb.org/mod_security
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Zegnat I wonder if it is worth going through old chat / GH issues and see if anyone mentioned specific mod_security rules that have been acting up
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aaronpk the problem is people whose web hosts implement mod_security often aren't even aware of the specific rule that triggers it
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aaronpk I remember one case where someone spent a few back and forths with their tech support and finally got them to mention a particular rule
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Zegnat I would not be surprised if a lot of webhost support lines do not know what rules mod_security includes...
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aaronpk also true
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[tonz] wrt specific mod_security rules , my hoster’s server error logs usually cite the rules that got violated. (and I mentioned them here and in my blog I think, so could dig them out)
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aaronpk ah that's helpful
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sknebel I think I put yours on the wiki as an example
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sknebel Hm no I didn't
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sknebel Or somewhere else
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GWG aaronpk, closing IndieAuth issues?
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aaronpk trying to do a little housecleaning
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aaronpk I feel bad some of them have been open since before last year's summit
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GWG aaronpk, always a challenge
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GWG My goal is pushing a new Post Kinds by Sunday night
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GWG I have 5 issues I want to close
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jgmac1106[m] Good luck!!
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GWG To all of us
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@Cambridgeport90 Has anyone from the #IndieWeb gotten OwnYourSwarm to show the number of coins on a #Wordpress configured site? I get all of my webmentions except for those. I'm still trying to figure that one out. Thanks. (twitter.com/_/status/1142517164794175488)
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GWG I display them I think
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[tantek] Loqi, which GitHub.com/microformats issues were opened before /2018 ?
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ When logged into OwnYourSwarm there's a dashboard page with a section entitled "Comments and Responses" with two toggles. The second toggle for "Send Webmention for system comments from Swarm" should be "on" and that should send you the coins [more...] https://boffosocko.com/2019/06/22/55756288/ (twitter.com/_/status/1142535506271465472)
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[grantcodes] Rolled out experimental support for micropub queries and updates in together. It's pretty awesome to be able to see all my own posts and manage them
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[miklb] that does sound handy
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jacky Random: anyone able to view "quoted" tweet content in their reader from Granary?
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jacky I think I might have to use a different stream type for this
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snarfed jacky: yes, granary handles quote tweets correctly
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[grantcodes] Yeah, they show up great in together
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snarfed teamwork!
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[miklb] teamwork++
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Loqi teamwork has 1 karma over the last year
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@Cambridgeport90 ↩️ Will have to consider. I wonder why the rest don't? Considering it's a webmention, it should appear, logically, at least. (twitter.com/_/status/1142579752735260673)
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