#dev 2019-08-02

2019-08-02 UTC
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Loqi aaronpk's foursquare rate limits are reset
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Loqi Countdown set by aaronpk on 2019-08-01 at 12:21pm PDT
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aaronpk Oh boy
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aaronpk Here come the delayed checkins
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[schmarty] 🐓
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[Rose] Intriguing, Monocle doesn't like me today: "error_description": "This token was issued to a different user"
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aaronpk What changed?
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[Rose] I suspect a WordPress update
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[Rose] ```
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[Rose] "error": "invalid_user",
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[Rose] "body": {
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[Rose] "error_description": "This token was issued to a different user",
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[Rose] "expected": "https://rosemaryorchard.com/",
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[Rose] "debug": {
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[Rose] "from_token": "https://rosemaryorchard.com/author/rosemaryjayne/"
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[Rose] }
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[Rose] ```
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[Rose] }
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GWG The IndieAuth update, most likely
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[Rose] That seems highly plausible.
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[Rose] The question is, what should I do to fix it?
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GWG Do you have the Indieweb plugin installed?
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GWG If so, set the single author property in it to your primary user
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GWG I will think about what else triggers that
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[Rose] It's set as a single author site and the author is myself, I tried changing the "use url from profile" to off but no improvement
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[Rose] Ooh, aperture thinks I'm *https://rosemaryorchard.com/author/rosemaryjayne/
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[Rose] *, that might explain some of it
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Zegnat If you want to know for sure what Aperture is seeing from WP, see if you can extract the token. Then do the verification step to your token endpoint manually to inspect your `me`
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[Rose] I'll do that once I get to work.
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[Rose] I'm curious as to when it changed though.
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[Rose] Further debugging reveals I am now the second user on my Aperture installation, at least that's what I'm logged in as
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Zegnat Magic
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[Rose] Indeed, somehow this account has two notification and two home channels
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sebsel !tell Zegnat I did syndicate a thread before, and I saw aaronpk doing it too, so I did it again the same way. It was mostly because I wanted the twitter-attention a thread could make over a linked blogpost.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Zegnat Ah, gotcha, thanks for the update sebsel!
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Loqi Zegnat: sebsel left you a message 8 minutes ago: I did syndicate a thread before, and I saw aaronpk doing it too, so I did it again the same way. It was mostly because I wanted the twitter-attention a thread could make over a linked blogpost.
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[jgmac1106] well I just totally broke my Known site and can't install my backups, those are broken too now....oh well myabe I will get some work done
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jeremycherfas Yikes. How did you manage that [jgmac1106] ?
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Zegnat Sounds like you now know what you have to do this weekend
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jgmac1106 no idea, you can see what I was doing in #knownchat
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jeremycherfas Heading there now.
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jgmac1106 just trying to uopdate to latest build so I could have tinymce 5, once composer updated all the dependancies I threw a 500 error, I then installed my back up and still get fatal flae
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[jgmac1106] i will go back a few versions of my backups and see if one will work..I didn't blog too much yesterday won't lose that much content
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Zegnat Your DB should be untouched, especially with the PHP errors you put in #knownchat
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Zegnat So you shouldn’t have to rollback the DB, which means you shouldn’t be losing any content
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jeremycherfas sets reminder to add rsync of Known to cron jobs
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jeremycherfas Is there a kind of dummy site to which I can try to send a webmention, to see what is going on?
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jeremycherfas I suppose I could just keep sending to myself.
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aaronpk https://webmention.rocks
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[schmarty] almost opened up an issue on XRay but got myself stuck in a GH/wiki loop regarding h-event with u-featured
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aaronpk uhoh
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jeremycherfas Hmmn. Yes, of course. But which test ...
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aaronpk doesn't matter
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[schmarty] aaronpk: would you consider supporting u-featured on h-event for XRay? it seems to be supported for h-entry according to https://github.com/microformats/h-entry/issues/14
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Loqi [sknebel] #14 tracking: upgrade u-featured property to "Draft" status
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aaronpk [schmarty]: I think that makes sense, is there any discussion about it for events yet?
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[schmarty] i've been using u-featured on h-event posts for a representative image for a while but i am having trouble tracking down discussion about it.
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jeremycherfas Great! Works fine. Thanks aaronpk
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[schmarty] http://microformats.org/wiki/h-event doesn't mention featured, or images at all, and the one reference to the word "photo" is in reference to attendee h-cards.
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] h-event is a simple, open format for events on the web. h-event is often used with both event listings and individual event pages. h-event is one of several open microformat draft standards suitable for embedding data in HTML. h-event is the microfor...
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aaronpk wow this is sparse https://indieweb.org/h-event
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aaronpk ah here we go https://indieweb.org/event#Image_header
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aaronpk and that even has reasoning for not using "photo"
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[schmarty] phew, i should have looked there first. 😅
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[schmarty] oh lol i'm already on that page noting support for featured image: https://indieweb.org/event#Marty_McGuire
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[schmarty] ok i feel confident enough to make this an issue :} thanks for helping me do the work of preparing to ask you to do work. 😅
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aaronpk haha
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aaronpk yeah sounds good
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jeremycherfas Well, after going round and round, I discovered that somewhere along the line I had lost my webmention endpoint from my HEAD. All is now good again.
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jeremycherfas I think.
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[schmarty] aaronpk++ lol thanks
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[schmarty] ooh, a singular value! that makes sense.
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aaronpk should auto deploy soon
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aaronpk done!
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[schmarty] excitement! i use XRay as a lib on my site builder so i'mma update that right quick.
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GWG aaronpk, jsonfeed photos should be arrays?
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aaronpk The photo property in the XRay response is always supposed to be an array
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[schmarty] GWG: https://jsonfeed.org/version/1 says that the `image` and `banner_image` are optional single string values.
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[schmarty] and multiple images should appear in `content_html`
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GWG I always make photo an array now
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GWG I still can't figure out where to write all the things I do in Parse This and you do in x-ray
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jgmac1106 any one have a color pallete picker they like that isn’t full of ads?
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jgmac1106 this one isn’t too bad: https://www.webfx.com/web-design/color-picker/
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aaronpk define "full of ads"
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aaronpk I have some here https://aaronparecki.com/bookmarks?tag=color
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Zegnat [schmarty] on phone now and do not have my GitHub logged in, but I think there is an issue about extending h-event with h-entry properties. Maybe that can extend to featured too.
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[schmarty]1 zegnat: there are some related issues but none specifically about pulling h-entry properties into h-event as far as i saw: https://github.com/microformats/h-event/issues
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Zegnat I am probably just thinking of my comment on https://github.com/microformats/h-event/issues/2#issuecomment-308650834
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Loqi [Zegnat] Does it become significantly harder to change properties after “flipping the switch”? If so (I am not fledged in the Microformats processes) we might need to do some changes to h-event first. The current draft specification does not adress usi...
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[KevinMarks] event posts on silos have featured images; seems reasonable to mirror that
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] any silo besides FB? Seems reasonable to document them here first: https://indieweb.org/event#Silo_Examples
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[KevinMarks] Plus did (rip)
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[snarfed] looks like eventbrite and meetup too
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[snarfed] adding now
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Zegnat gath.io too
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[tantek] That just reminded me of all the people who threw down their domains and switched to G+ back in the day. I remember SMH at the time
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[tantek] Oh my, new Twitter web UI has finally broken their hashbang permalinks!!!
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[tantek] all Twitter hashbang permalinks simply redirect to the home page
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aaronpk Whoa
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[tantek] lolololol
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[tantek] For example, compare http://twitter.com/#!/kevinrose/status/89578599098744832 and https://twitter.com/kevinrose/status/89578599098744832
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@kevinrose Decided to forward http://kevinrose.com to Google+. G+ gives me more (real-time) feedback and engagement than my blog ever did. (twitter.com/_/status/89578599098744832)
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[snarfed] interestingly slack's link unfurler (ie preview) handled the hashbang url fine
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[KevinMarks] Probably already had a regex in to fix it?
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[tantek] ^^^ that
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aaronpk Loqi's regex might match them too
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aaronpk both pull the tweet ID from the URL and look it up via the API
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[tantek] On a positive note check out this recently published article by [Andi] on Accessibility on the Adobe Blog! (including a few quotes from yours truly) https://theblog.adobe.com/accessibility-design-at-scale/
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[tantek] andi++
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[tantek] accessibility++
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[snarfed] flickr API has been down all day. all calls have been 400ing. whee. https://brid.gy/admin/sources
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[snarfed] ah. https://status.flickr.net/
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[tantek] photo permalinks are reporting "Error loading comments"
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[snarfed] yup, lot of orange on that status page
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aaronpk eep
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aaronpk some day i'm gonna finally have my perfect photo archiving setup
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[tantek] I want to believe this is (still/just) Smugmug acquisition / backend transition pains.
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aaronpk they did recently move everything to an entirely new cloud
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[tantek] They're moving everything from the custom backend / ops of Yahoo/Flickr to AWS
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[snarfed] that was back in may, https://help.flickr.com/en_us/important-planned-downtime-may-22nd-2019-H1IEsxQ6N
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[snarfed] re today, standard disclaimer applies, nothing has 100% uptime
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aaronpk that's recent enough that i'm not surprised that there are still rough spots
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[tantek] It *should* theoretically be *much* cheaper to operate and easier to scale dynamically
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[tantek] right aaronpk, that was my thinking. any transition that big is likely to have hiccups for at least a few months while they sort out 1/1000 type events (which can still cause massive impact on that many users / requests)
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aaronpk finds https://github.com/vallieres/jekyll-json-feed/blob/master/feed.json and cringes
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aaronpk building JSON strings by hand 😱
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[tantek] the natural end point for all side file streaming
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[tantek] what you mean people aren't outputting RSS/Atom by making DOM calls to generate an XML tree?!?
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aaronpk i was trying to add a file to a jekyll blog that has all the posts as JSON, and was trying to build up objects in jekyll and use an actual JSON stringify function, and couldn't get it to work
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aaronpk ended up being easier to make an HTML page, add microformats, and run it thru a microformats parser to get the JSON I need
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KartikPrabhu [tantek]: hey I make my Atom from the mf2 ;)
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[tantek] because HTML parsing is more forgiving / has better error recovery than JSON Parsing -> always output HTML for your data, and let the parser be smarter and generate JSON for you
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KartikPrabhu :D
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[tantek] except when you need to output custom things in the side file feeds because feed consumers are picky about what content goes where
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[tantek] which reminds me
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[jgmac1106] Though if you were on blogger or WP and used the G+ comment tools it was very similar to webmentions
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[jgmac1106] Wonder if those comments stuck around
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[tantek] kind of amazing how many site still have prominent "G+" buttons which just link to 404
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[tantek] like https://www.livescience.com/
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gxt weechat
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gxt sry, wrong tmux pane focused...
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[KevinMarks]1 Did we document the 2 different twitter exports? I remember talking about it
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[tantek] not sure, perhaps check the "How to Export" section on /Twitter ?
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