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vika_nezrimaya hey :3 who's the author of http://waterpigs.co.uk/places/new/? I'm currently working on venues and checkin support, and this UI is beautiful
# vika_nezrimaya s/UI/UX
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KartikPrabhu Barnaby Walters. the name is in the site. I haven't seen him active here in a while
# vika_nezrimaya KartikPrabhu: I mean, yeah, what's their chatname?
# vika_nezrimaya ugh
# vika_nezrimaya just read
# vika_nezrimaya ok
# vika_nezrimaya :c
# vika_nezrimaya seems like code isn't open source
# vika_nezrimaya I want to know how that location input was built
# vika_nezrimaya I'm so slow at reading stuff ugghhhhh
# KartikPrabhu vika_nezrimaya: maybe looking at the source can help. The map seems to be from leaflet
# vika_nezrimaya Yeah, except this doesn't tell me anything about how exactly leaflet was used there
# vika_nezrimaya ugh
# KartikPrabhu yeah. I looked through his github but couldn't find anything useful
# vika_nezrimaya ok, another question - do I need to mark up something as p-content in like posts so they won't look empty in your readers?
# KartikPrabhu I don't think so.
# KartikPrabhu there is no implied p-content so if it is absent then that post will just have no content
# vika_nezrimaya I'm afraid in Indigenous this means the post will seem empty
# vika_nezrimaya and as I have like posts in my main feed now
# vika_nezrimaya I don't have filters on Micropub, sadly
# KartikPrabhu the post is "empty" in the sense that it has no content. but I guess Indegenous should have a way of displaying likes without content
# vika_nezrimaya In the "your posts list" activity they show empty
# vika_nezrimaya same as my "ate" posts (which is my new experiment)
# KartikPrabhu sounds like a problem with Indigenous
# vika_nezrimaya GWG: well, then I guess I'll go file a bug
# KartikPrabhu :thumbsup:
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# vika_nezrimaya I thought development of h-card venue and addressbook will not take more than one day... but then I remembered I have to build a renderer for it
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[KevinMarks] It's pretty easy to do "show where you are on a map" with leaflet.
# [KevinMarks] View source on https://where.kevin-marks.com/maptime/
# [KevinMarks] You can use a cdn for the leaflet lib and css, and put leaflet providers js locally, then you can pick a map style. (some of those need an api key, but the openstreetmap and stamen ones don't) https://leaflet-extras.github.io/leaflet-providers/preview/
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jamietanna[m] vika_nezrimaya it could be you need a p-name at least? Then that'll get used if there's no p-content
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@janboddez ↩️ Could be the hosted service just works, but Ima conclude for now that Microsub server software just ain’t there, yet. And that’s okay: I can easily share—to my own site, even—from any regular feed reader. (twitter.com/_/status/1168798880525365249)
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@IndieWebLife Island in the NetAn Indieweb Podcast: Episode 4 “Webmentions and Privacy” #indieweb https://islandinthenet.com/indieweb-podcast-episode-4-webmentions-privacy/ (twitter.com/_/status/1168852508195901441)
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@mikestreety @samdking was reading your latest blog post (good one and remind me to talk to you about food pouches) and noticed the link in the footer doesn’t work. If you also do a rel=“me” you can start to think about adding webmentions to your blog :) (twitter.com/_/status/1168876335374225408)
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jeremycherfas I wonder why that link wasn't clickable in Loqi's version
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] probably a good idea to spend some time updating the /fragmentions spec (maybe move/consolidate all the '##' challenges / problems / examples into a "Deprecated" section near the bottom?)
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[schmarty] if they ain't broke...
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# [schmarty] tantek: fair point about fragmentions being "broke"
# [tantek] !tell [KevinMarks] prime opportunity for you to comment here and let people know about Fragmentions already working like this and our experiences etc. https://github.com/WICG/ScrollToTextFragment/issues/25
# [tantek] !tell [KevinMarks] comment in this W3CTag issue as well, to get Fragmentions in front of that crowd as an already working alternative: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/392
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# ShokuninDiscord[ Hmm, so is unwalled garden an alternative to activitypub?
# [tantek] shokunin it's not clear what's an alternative to activitypub because that's a protocol level question and AP does so much (and doesn't do other things) that you have to weirdly cobble together and cut in order to make an "alternative". tl;dr "alternative to activitypub" is not a useful framing.
# ShokuninDiscord[ fair. In this case I was thinking of activitypub as rss with permissions / comments / reactions
# [schmarty] shokunin: haha "RSS with permissions" sounds inverted, as activitypub is mostly about delivering messages to your followers' inboxes at the protocol level.
# [schmarty] i recall discussions here that mastodon (and most software that federates with it?) doesn't actually consume the published Atom feeds when you follow someone
# [schmarty] instead, a successful subscription means that your account will receive notifications of new messages from the accounts that you follow.
# [schmarty] that was a long description because i forgot the word "push", haha. it's push, not poll.
# [tantek] Has anyone considered clustering (nearly) identical comments received from different people? E.g. you could make a "nice pile" out of 90%+ of the replies to this: https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1168915870959226882
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@SwiftOnSecurity Firefox 69 arrives with third-party tracking cookies and cryptomining blocked by default https://venturebeat.com/2019/09/03/mozilla-firefox-69/ (twitter.com/_/status/1168915870959226882)
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[grantcodes] Clicked on the webpage inside the tweet and was confused at the lack of comments, but then saw the tweets. Nice
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jgmac1106 this one for example: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/08/30/benpatrickwill-jockeys-also-hit-horses-with-whips maybe after X likes I just say this post was liked X times
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Loqi [Greg McVerry] @BenPatrickWill Jockeys also hit horses with whips to make them go faster. Results do not make that right either. Want students to pay attention, use better teaching. https://twitter.com/BenPatrickWill/status/1167358886397038597 #digped
# [snarfed] jgmac1106 i like collapsed facepiles for that, eg https://snarfed.org/2019-08-05_38215#comment-2738733
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# [tantek] would the presence of a gif (e.g. a /photo_reply) be sufficient to be different? presuming you want to show the gifs. or would you cluster by alt text?
# [tantek] ok this was hilarious if only because the link preview in Twitter didn't say/show anything specific: https://twitter.com/bwinton/status/1168935334199083008
# [tantek] snarfed, definitely not considering images for an MVF. Perhaps an explanation of the inside joke: https://twitter.com/RotoPenguin/status/1168918248609501186
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@RotoPenguin @SwiftOnSecurity .@twitter @jack When a post has a certain number in it, the like button should be replaced with a [Nice] button. (twitter.com/_/status/1168918248609501186)
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# Loqi Comments are displayed in the context of an original post, and may be a mix of syndicated reply posts from other sites received via Webmention, as well as locally created comments https://indieweb.org/comments-display
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