#dev 2019-11-21

2019-11-21 UTC
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GWG_ Good point.
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gRegorLove XFN would be easier for a consumer, plus not a sidefile. But I'm not aware of XFN consumers.
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gRegorLove what is XFN?
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Loqi XFN (XHTML Friends Network) is the network of visible links across blogs that claim various XFN relationships with/to each other https://indieweb.org/XFN
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[KevinMarks] I parsed FOAF and XFN at technorati, and worked on the Social Graph API at Google with BradFitz that also parsed both
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[jgmac1106] moving my to-do list from Known to my main domain....need to learn the most basic storage for dates, if filling out a to-do list takes too much time it aint a to-do list at all
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jgmac1106 !mf2 https://jgregorymcverry.com/todolist
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Kaja__ https://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjgregorymcverry.com%2Ftodolist
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jgmac1106 someday it would be neat that if I send a webmention to each h-item a strike through got applied to the li
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Kaja__ https://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjgregorymcverry.com%2Fnotes%2F2019-11-21-1
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jgmac1106 !mf2 https://jgregorymcverry.com/notes/2019-11-21-1
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jgmac1106 Like if I do that it would be neat if my webmention receiver/displayer (that I don’t have) triggered a strikethrough
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jacky this probably isn't a problem now but I keep thinking about it
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jacky it = showing people a list of people for audience use cases
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jacky actually going to just write about it instead of babbling lol
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[snarfed] not really indieweb related, apologies, but huffduff-video costs were getting out of hand (over 5x bridgy!), so i migrated it from S3 to Backblaze B2 yesterday, which costs 22% as much for storage and 11% (!) for bandwidth, the critical part for me. :crossed_fingers: https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage-pricing.html
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[snarfed] i'm sure it's worse in some way(s), but this is not exactly mission critical data 😆, so that's ifne
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[tantek] snarfed, indie devops is on topic here 🙂
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[schmarty] snarfed++ wow that is a huge savings!
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Loqi snarfed has 52 karma in this channel over the last year (98 in all channels)
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[schmarty] and an excellent reminder to re-run my laptop backups which are also on B2 😅
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swentel [schmarty], any chance you could ping your hub? You're the only websub feed I have at the moment which for some reason isn't parsed for new content (I see the notification coming in, but then it stops)
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swentel although I guess the hub will probably only notify me if there's new content hmm
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[schmarty] swentel: i'll go post something, then! 😄
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swentel hehe, that works too indeed :)
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[schmarty] ping incoming, maybe!
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[schmarty] (i posted something new and that should have kicked my websub hub)
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swentel yep
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swentel interesting, it pinged 6 times actually
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swentel ok I see what's wrong
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swentel (not your fault)
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[schmarty] hmm. do you have a wildcard subscription? it probably pinged for every tag page.
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swentel I'm subscribed to https://martymcgui.re/posts/
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swentel and all 'self' rels in the pings are for that url
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swentel so not sure what happens there
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swentel but the next ping will parse fine now, another bug gone :)
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[schmarty] wahoo!
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swentel hmm interesting, 4 minutes later 3 other pings came in
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swentel alle the same content
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[schmarty] i updated that post with a syndication link
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swentel aah makes sense
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[schmarty] which should have generated one ping for sure.
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[schmarty] my site only hits the hub once, but does send the URLs of all pages
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[schmarty] (all pages which changed, i should say! 😅)
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swentel hehe interesting
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swentel you'd think that superfeedr would only send the one I'm subscribed too
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swentel (and it looks like that)
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swentel so you're not sending the same url by any chance ? :)
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swentel I mean, the list of those urls are different
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[schmarty] swentel, the list of urls for the most recent ping was: `https://martymcgui.re//,https://martymcgui.re/2019/11/,https://martymcgui.re/2019/11/21/110843/,https://martymcgui.re/posts/,https://martymcgui.re/tag/privacy/,https://martymcgui.re/tag/silos/,https://martymcgui.re/tag/surveillance/,https://martymcgui.re/tag/tracking/`
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[schmarty] looks like i need to fix that root path reference to remove a double-slash but /posts/ is only in there once 😄
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swentel weird, then superfeedr needs to fix their stuff :)
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wink having started to implement https://github.com/skpy/micropub into my hugo-generated website I'm not so sure this was a good idea anymore. It would probably be totally easy with a non-static website.
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Loqi [skpy] micropub: a minimal PHP micropub endpoint, with media support
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wink how are others coping with adding dynamics to a static website without feeling it defeats the purpose? :)
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wink (nb: everything works kinda fine, I'm not complaining or using it wrong, I think)
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sknebel Why would it defeat the purpose?
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wink well it depends what your reason for using a static site in the first place is
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[schmarty] wink: i use a fork of skpy/micropub for my site. i think of it as another avenue for injecting content into my static site. part of the larger plumbing around managing the whole thing.
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jacky what is search
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Loqi search in the context of the IndieWeb refers to being able to search your personal site for your own content https://indieweb.org/search
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jacky what is search engine
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "search engine" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "search engine is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jacky hm
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wink [schmarty]: yeah, I don't really *mix* - I put the uploads in a special dir and use data/ only for this. so it's ok I guess
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[schmarty] wink: that is an interesting separation. was there anything in particular that drove your choice to store micropub posts in data/?
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wink [schmarty]: I was using an ancient hugo version until yesterday without using data/ and skpy/micropub used it and I haven't touched the code yet. :)
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wink I used 0.13 from 2015? the first version to use Data at all afaik.
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[schmarty] ooh, interesting. i wonder if skpy/micropub switched to storing in data/ after i forked it. i have always stored micropub posts in `content/` as "regular" posts.
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wink I didn't look at the history
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wink but I think skpy stopped developing it just a month ago, according to the website
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wink I only looked at it a few weeks ago
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[schmarty] i took a different approach for uploaded media - i use a completely separate media endpoint on a subdomain.
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[schmarty] https://indieweb.org/Spano
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wink yeah my media endpoint is at a different domain even, so maybe I just tried to have it too convenient ;)
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wink I was going after micropub.rocks and I think it nudges you towards having the content published synchronously, looking at the Location-forwards
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wink but I might jsut be misreading the intention
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wink there shouldn't be a reason why you can't post stuff as draft that isn't published instantly
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Zegnat For the people who wanted to draw graphs on their sites (jeremycherfas?) https://timqian.com/chart.xkcd/
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[snarfed] Zegnat beko: https://github.com/glennjones/microformat-shiv ? https://github.com/glennjones/microformat-node ?
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Loqi [glennjones] microformat-shiv: A light weight cross browser JavaScript microformats parser
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[snarfed] also wow, he claims microformat-shiv is now built into Firefox?!
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Zegnat [snarfed]: I have slightly different ideas I want to test
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Zegnat I do believe I have seen it included, I am unsure whether it is still shipped as part of Fx
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[snarfed] ok!
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[snarfed] i hid the `email` column in metabase's config for that table, https://metabase.corp.color.com/admin/datamodel/database/3/table/910 , since it's PHI and therefore blocked for the read only db user
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[snarfed] whee too many slack windows, sorry all
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[snarfed] feel free to try to break into that app though! (and tell me if you can, obvs)
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beko[m] [snarfed]: using already, thanks 🙂 Just curious about anything on this topic
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[snarfed] lol
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Zegnat I want to play with generator functions, and thus lazily parse the DOM only for the values you want to have. This will limit usefulness in some places, but I am mostly doing it to get more accustomed to typescript/javascript dev workflow and tdd (more than for the sake of creating a new/better parser)
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gRegorLove [snarfed], 403 permission denied, darn :)
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[snarfed] aww try harder
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[snarfed] :troll:
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gRegorLove lolol
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gRegorLove ahh, it was "password2"
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[snarfed] 😆
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Zegnat puts random hash as bearer token in request header
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Zegnat Darn, not that either
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[snarfed] ok you all are definitely fired as pen testers
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gRegorLove hey, I never claimed to be one
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[snarfed] yup like i said
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gRegorLove I could be a pun tester tho
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beko Zegnat: TS is great. I would not touch a new [node] project without.
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