#dev 2019-12-13

2019-12-13 UTC
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[tantek]
I'm going to have to migrate from webmention.io as part of my moderation requirements
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[tantek]
so I'll document that on the wiki so others can see the hows and whys of migration from a service (which does provide a lot quite well) to your own implementation or installed software that you can have much more fine-grained control over
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[tantek]
I'm thinking of *first* turning on displaying at least replies from webmention.io as a way of surfacing the challenges I have to deal with
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[tantek]
then documenting those
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[tantek]
then building my own way of receiving / filtering / deleting / blocking them one piece at a time
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[tantek]
it will be a period of transitional awkwardness for quite some time
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[tantek]
but I feel like it's a transition that's becoming increasingly urgent
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@t
↩️ @ParagA #bluesky sounds interesting. For “existing decentralized standard” see #IndieWeb specs https://spec.indieweb.org/ like W3C #Webmention, and community that actively federates with Twitter (like this reply from my site). Happy to discuss more! https://tantek.com/t5421
(twitter.com/_/status/1205302115108708352)
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jacky
what is wormhole
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Loqi
The Wormhole is a coffee shop in Chicago, and possible HWC venue https://indieweb.org/Wormhole
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jacky
that's one thing, sure lol
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GWG_
How long has Loqi been waiting to use that?
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[tantek]
wow now that's an easter egg I had no idea about
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Loqi
bret has 1 karma over the last year
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GWG_
aaronpk: You gave me a lot of reading material there.
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aaronpk
haha sorry
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GWG_
I need to do some IndieAuth work
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GWG_
And some Micropub, webmention.... just everything actually
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GWG_
aaronpk: How many of the OAuth2.1 proposed standards you suggest are things we should do with the IndieAuth implementations?
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aaronpk
We already got one of them in there! Token revocation
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aaronpk
I definitely recommend PKCE
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GWG_
aaronpk: Check
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GWG_
And check
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aaronpk
we also already never used the password grant or implicit so we're good there
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aaronpk
there's more details to look at but that will require more thought
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GWG_
aaronpk: What is this about user agent checking?
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GWG_
Reading these security practices
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GWG_
Hmmm..referrer protections.
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jacky
are these documented on the github tracker?
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jacky
I def want to get RFC 8626 (device grant) working for my site so I can use a phone to auth
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aaronpk
Do it!
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jacky
ooh there's a typo here https://oauth.net/3/
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aaronpk
technically IndieAuth is just a discovery mechanism and user ID format on top of OAuth
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jacky
> exampels
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aaronpk
Ha nice catch
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aaronpk
I wrote that in like 15 minutes perched on a chair in the party hall during a break
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aaronpk
file a PR :-)
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jacky
was def in the process
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jacky
this kinda reminds me
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jacky
there's a bit of kicking around in the fediverse for something to handle "ticketing" that isn't on github
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jacky
or whatever people use
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jacky
before I saw that, I did kind of wonder why we didn't have that
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aaronpk
Ticketing like events?
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jacky
but it's also probably because 1) most devs are on github 2) it does a lot of the tracking well
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jacky
nah like issue tracking
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jacky
tickets is bugzilla days my bad
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aaronpk
better name than issues tbh
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aaronpk
issues is such a negative framing
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aaronpk
It's a very small leap to use webmention and microformats to enable cross instance issues and discussions between Gitlab/gogs/gitea instances
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jacky
we need someone who knows Go for gitea
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jacky
I kept trying and I'm so bad / not good at it lol
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jacky
on the scale of feasibility, it'd be mf2 > webmention > indieauth for me in gitea
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jacky
then there's the idea of cloning indienews to do this >:)
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jacky
someone posts to it to open an idea and salmentions can show up as replies to the main ticket
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Ruxton
whats up wth gitea/go?
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Ruxton
I've been using go for 4-5 years now
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jacky
oh just discussion on being able to post to it via webmention
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jacky
Ruxton: I wanted to actually first allow sign in to a gitea instance via indieauth (if it used indieauth.com or if it had an implementation built in)
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jacky
and then go for the webmention receiving support
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Ruxton
I'll add it to my list of random stuff to work on, maybe I'll find some time over xmas
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jacky
yo let me know!
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jacky
as a gitea user, I'd love this
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jacky
doesn't like that you can nest p-summary in p-content
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swentel
I find blockquote in e-content also a bit weird
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swentel
but maybe that was because I had much trouble getting that right in Drupal :)
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gRegorLove
jacky, are you working on a parser?
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jacky
gRegorLove: nah, it's something I notice in my microsub reader
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jacky
I might _have_ to because I don't think the original maintainer of the elixir microformats2 library might be responsive to stuff
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jamietanna[m]
> Is your setup sending webmentions to all URLs in the page? It looks like it's sending a wm from your post to your profile url, right?
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jamietanna[m]
gRegorLove yes, so I believe some of them go to the profile url and some to the page itself. But when it goes to the profile it still shows as a like, when it's really a like of the post, and a mention of the profile
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