#dev 2019-12-18

2019-12-18 UTC
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@scottmathson
↩️ Ahh I see what article's getting after, here, and I 110% agree - you might also like @jimmy_daly's article 'Blogs Are Libraries, Not Publications' as well as exploring Indieweb's Webmentions https://indieweb.org/Webmention too, Nate https://www.jimmydaly.com/blogs-are-libraries/
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GWG
aaronpk: What properties does Overland store when you are on a plane, train, or other transport?
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[tantek]
I know someone here was doing automatic url updating to the nearest fragment link?
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[tantek]
E.g. a page or site that had explicit fragment IDs on every heading / section / paragraph and while you scrolled it auto updated the URL bar to the frag ID nearest to your scroll position
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gRegorLove
!tell mblaney this post is showing up in monocle as "name.com reposted" https://mblaney.xyz/2019-12-17-Not_sure_if_youve_heard_of_IndieWeb_but_it looks like the p-author h-card has two p-name properties
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi
[name.com] Not sure if you've heard of #IndieWeb, but it's that notion that you should be able to keep your own content in your control. Join the group and share your solutions to decentralize the web. indieweb.org i.haza.website now provides domain registrati...
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mblaney
hi gRegorLove
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Loqi
mblaney: gRegorLove left you a message 57 minutes ago: this post is showing up in monocle as "name.com reposted" https://mblaney.xyz/2019-12-17-Not_sure_if_youve_heard_of_IndieWeb_but_it looks like the p-author h-card has two p-name properties
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mblaney
that seems a little bit strange, my repost author formatting is non-standard but I don't see how monocle would choose that as the author.
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Loqi
aaronpk: vika_nezrimaya left you a message 20 hours, 55 minutes ago: Quill suddenly lost my ?q=config results even though it was fine yesterday! Indigenous works...
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Loqi
aaronpk: vika_nezrimaya left you a message 20 hours, 55 minutes ago: I suppose this might have happened because I don't specify an icon for IndieNews
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Loqi
aaronpk: GWG left you a message 15 hours, 59 minutes ago: Do you have a list of extra properties that Overland or you save to Compass?
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Loqi
[name.com] Not sure if you've heard of #IndieWeb, but it's that notion that you should be able to keep your own content in your control. Join the group and share your solutions to decentralize the web. indieweb.org i.haza.website now provides domain registrati...
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mblaney
aaronpk, "name.com reposted"?
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aaronpk
No scroll down to the author h-card
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aaronpk
Actually it's the same as in the link you posted
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mblaney
I'm asking how gRegorLove got "name.com reposted"
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aaronpk
Monocle would grab the author name and say "reposted"
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gRegorLove
Yeah the author h-card has p-name "name.com" then "Malcolm Blaney". The photo and URL properties are also doubled up like that
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mblaney
ah fair enough, because the h-entry has a repost-of.
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gRegorLove
The name.com name, photo, url could go in an h-cite, but yeah the author card should just be you
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mblaney
yeah I've been struggling to find a way to display reposts.
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mblaney
using an h-cite changes the layout when I want to display them together.
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gRegorLove
ah yeah [source] reposted by [me] format makes it trickier
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mblaney
I also don't want to be the author of the post, ala tumblr style
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gRegorLove
but you're the author of the repost
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mblaney
yeah I guess I can capture that better and still find a way to display it. keep getting stuck on it though.
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gRegorLove
I see what you mean visually. e.g. this post doesn't have anything about aaronpk until the footer, though it does have u-author so it parses with him as author https://aaronparecki.com/2019/11/07/28/
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aaronpk
Just think of reposts like Twitter
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aaronpk
it should look like the post was made by the original author, and should tell you who reposted it too
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mblaney
thanks that's a good example. I just want to add the repost author in visually in the h-cite then.
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aaronpk
on my site it's implied that I'm the one who reposted it because it's my website
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mblaney
yeah I've still got multi-author blogs in the back of my mind...
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aaronpk
but in the markup it's an h-entry by me with a repost-of property that's the original h-entry
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aaronpk
yea for multi author sites you need to do what Twitter does and say "reposted by ____"
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mblaney
so you take the original h-entry and switch it to an h-cite?
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mblaney
I think I still want to add "reposted by" in the h-cite markup, it just won't have any structural meaning.
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aaronpk
Yea the original h-entry becomes an h-cite, and the h-cite should be only the contents of the thing being reposted
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aaronpk
I thought this was described on /repost
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aaronpk
I could be mis remembering and we should update the docs
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mblaney
I've read that page before, but couldn't work out how to go from there to the way I wanted to display reposts.
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mblaney
I think it's making more sense now though
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[intover_q]
Hi, folks, a general question:
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[intover_q]
How do you manage multiple pages with multiple languages for multiple devices (Responsive). Especially with different languages, the page design "shifts" and must be adjusted. Do you have any idea / Best Practice / Guidelines from experience, not to go insane while managing your Websites 😅
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@qmacro
↩️ Thanks, great article! I remember trackbacks and pingbacks but didn't know we have webmentions now - very nifty.
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[manton]
@mblaney Thanks for letting me know about your account on Micro.blog… I checked your RSS feed and it looks like Micro.blog can't load it because there are no guid elements on your items. Also the dates might be in the wrong format.
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GWG
[manton]: By the way, tell me if there are any problems caused by my roundabout posse to micro.blog method
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ben_thatmustbeme
i have a lot of catching up to do
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GWG
ben_thatmustbeme: Yay
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Loqi
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[KevinMarks]
This is interesting on using netlify 'serverless' functions for an otherwise static site https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2019/12/dynamic-async-functionality-jamsstack-websites/
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aaronpk
vika_nezrimaya: fyi looks like your image urls are being served with a content-type header of text/plain
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vika_nezrimaya
nginx misconfiguration issue probably, my static file hosting is served by nginx
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vika_nezrimaya
oh well I JUST GOT MY NEW RASPI4 IN THE MAIL
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vika_nezrimaya
So I'll reconfigure it all anyway
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vika_nezrimaya
Pics on my blog obviously
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aaronpk
I saw! that's how I noticed the image problem :)
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vika_nezrimaya
:3
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vika_nezrimaya
I'm not sure what it is but I'll try to investigate!
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vika_nezrimaya
Most browsers seem to do content type sniffing so I've never noticed it
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vika_nezrimaya
aaronpk did something break for you because of this?
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aaronpk
yeah it's fine in a browser directly, but my image proxy refused to resize it because it thinks it's not an image
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aaronpk
so it showed up as a broken image in monocle
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vika_nezrimaya
oh wow
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vika_nezrimaya
ok it's in my task list now
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@jgmac1106
↩️ Hoping folks take more of stable docs and being moving stuff to @mozdevnet as well as part of the December gift challenge, for static stuff just need HTML, microformats https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/microformats and webmentions https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/ (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/yUBg1)
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@brob
I really need to get my webmention functionality polished and live... https://t.co/TKkKOQaxDX
(twitter.com/_/status/1207337122363006976)
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[Rose]
Does anyone know how to round the corners off of an image with imagick?
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[schmarty]
[Rose] the docs seem to? it gets into some wacky nesting of commands! http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/thumbnails/#rounded
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@BillSeitz
↩️ @jgmac1106 Ugh never realized Twitter can't be used for indieauth/login anymore, need to change my link....
(twitter.com/_/status/1207358611724423168)
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aaronpk
what now
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aaronpk
he's linking to indieauth.com
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aaronpk
I wonder why
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[jgmac1106]
hasn't logged in a while probably trying rel=me in an old twitter profile link, just switching it
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aaronpk
his site uses indieauth.com, which doesn't support twitter
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[jgmac1106]
l'll let you explain if you feel so inclined
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aaronpk
he's correct as long as he is aware he is using indieauth.com
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gRegorLove
If they remove `<link rel="authorization_endpoint" href="https://indieauth.com/auth">` he can log in to the wiki using Twitter
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aaronpk
yep. i'm just not sure why he has it in there or if he needs it for something else
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gRegorLove
It may just be old. His wiki page has a lot of 2013-2014 stuff http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/IndieWeb
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gRegorLove
Looks like it has its own token endpoint though. Wiki is built on Flask
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gRegorLove
*and* own micropub
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gRegorLove
oh, the auth endpoint would be needed for micropub then. big caveat.
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[tantek]
feels appropriate for dev since devs can make these decisions about their own hosting, code, etc.:
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[tantek]
environment << 2019-12-18 The Atlantic: [https://newrepublic.com/article/155993/can-internet-survive-climate-change Can the Internet Survive Climate Change?] / How a warming world is sparking calls for a greener web <blockquote>Every website on the internet requires energy—and in a global economic system that’s mostly reliant on fossil fuel, that means more pollution.</blockquote>
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Loqi
ok, I added "2019-12-18 The Atlantic: [https://newrepublic.com/article/155993/can-internet-survive-climate-change Can the Internet Survive Climate Change?] / How a warming world is sparking calls for a greener web <blockquote>Every website on the internet requires energy—and in a global economic system that’s mostly reliant on fossil fuel, that means more pollution.</blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /green_computing https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=67390&oldid=66272
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[tantek]
environment << 2019-12-10 WIRED: [https://www.wired.com/story/amazon-google-microsoft-green-clouds-and-hyperscale-data-centers/ Amazon, Google, Microsoft: Here's Who Has the Greenest Cloud]
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Loqi
ok, I added "2019-12-10 WIRED: [https://www.wired.com/story/amazon-google-microsoft-green-clouds-and-hyperscale-data-centers/ Amazon, Google, Microsoft: Here's Who Has the Greenest Cloud]" to the "See Also" section of /green_computing https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=67391&oldid=67390
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