#dev 2019-12-30

2019-12-30 UTC
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[prtksxna] Zegnat: This is really cool. I don't think there is an API for stories yet, so must be manual.
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[frank] [Zegnat] I think it's manual labour. Or at least some some sort of automation after story-posts are saved to the local cameraroll. I could imagine some sort of iOS Shortcuts script to select specific photos and autopost to your site. (paging [Rose] for Shortcuts input...)
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[Rose] 👀
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[Rose] So, automatically doing something _after_ the fact is much harder than doing it as part of the posting in my experience. The problem is the native app doesn't let you post anything via Shortcuts properly.
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[Rose] You could create a shortcut that gets photos added to your camera roll in the last X minutes though, and lets you confirm those and then does something with them (something being up to you to determine, it could make a GIF to send somewhere, or just give you the images)
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[frank] [Rose] In Instagram Stories you have a setting to save made photos/videos to your cameraroll as well. Once it is in your cameraroll you could have a daily trigger to select photos and post them. I think?
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[Rose] You still have to run it manually, I think that running it immediately after posting the story would be better, as then you can easily tell which posts were together
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[frank] Hmm... So Shortcuts doesn't have a schedule of sorts? Like every night at 8 PM, show me the photos that might be included on my blog.
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[frank] Maybe Launchpad Pro could help with that
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[Rose] Shortcuts has automations including a timer trigger, but that's not an automated trigger - you only get prompted to run your shortcut.
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Zegnat [prtksxna], [frank], yeah, I also expect it to be manual. It was just interesting to see anyone is archiving their stories locally
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Zegnat Ie. not treating stories as ephemeral content
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GWG Morning
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Loqi morning!
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aaronpk Keep in mind that even Instagram lets you make stories permanent
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aaronpk you can collect them into little things on your profile that can be re-watched
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@tomcritchlowBOT Good week for the past I can wrestle webmentions to the inner game of indie consulting p…. (twitter.com/_/status/1211678794840510464)
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jamietanna[m] Anyone using Android + has a Micropub media-endpoint who can see if they can reproduce the issue I'm seeing in https://github.com/swentel/indigenous-android/issues/279 or at least clarify if I'm ready the spec correctly
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Loqi [jamietanna] #279 Photo uploads are not going via media-endpoint
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[grantcodes] jaimetanna: Media endpoints are optional, I don't indigenous sending photos that way is incorrect
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[grantcodes] Oh no I'm wrong, clients should always post to media endpoints if they are found.
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jamietanna[m] 👆🏼 Yeah that's what I was thinking. I'll see if I can see where in the code it's doing it and if I can raise a tentative fix
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sknebel Yeah that is quite annoying
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[tantek] anyone doing this? https://www.zdnet.com/article/fbi-recommends-that-you-keep-your-iot-devices-on-a-separate-network/
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Zegnat I think I read about Troy Hunt (of HaveIBeenPwned) running his washing machine on a separate net
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[tantek] TBH a lot of this stuff is making me consider faraday-caging the walls of my house, and then upgrading to a seriously aggressive proxy filter for broadband
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[tantek] wonders if RF blocking glass for windows is a thing
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[AlisonW] I believe that the semi see-through plastic sheet you can get to make a window one-way is metallic so might do a bit of Faradaying (if that's a word)
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Zegnat [tantek]: https://twitter.com/troyhunt/status/1065543090633564160
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@troyhunt So now I have my washing machine on an isolated IoT network pulling down 72Mbps using the AP in my entertainment room and can monitor it via all the @ubnt bits. Welcome to the future 😎 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsmRhQtVYAA0-yh.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1065543090633564160)
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Zegnat Although I personally feel like we can do with a future without washing machines pulling down mystery updates at 72Mbps
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Zegnat I also love the tweet that started it all: https://twitter.com/troyhunt/status/1065530983699476480
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@troyhunt Me to my wife: “Uh, what brand is our new washing machine?” “Samsung” “Why the fuck is it broadcasting an SSID?!” https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsmGx5FVAAEDvxi.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1065530983699476480)
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[tantek] if it's not a word it should be
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[tantek] Faradaying
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[tantek] This is why I'm specifically avoiding all networked appliances
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gRegorLove lol
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[AlisonW] Why the **** does a washing machine (or, frankly, any kitchen appliance) need to be networked? :: sadface ::
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[tantek] capitalism
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[CrowderSoup] I can see SOME uses, like remotely starting your coffee pot, or oven. But they are certainly not necessary. Regardless though, none of it should be hooked up to the internet, even if it IS networked
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[grantcodes] I have a separate network for iot junk. But I'm not 100% sure I've set it up properly tbh. I think there is cross contamination with default
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[tantek] [CrowderSoup] lolwutTF. even allowing for the *possibility* of "remotely starting your coffee pot, or oven" sounds like a massive physical security vulnerability
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[tantek] I might flip that on its head, that is, one possible use-case (as long as it can be locally overridden) would be remote failsafe powering off. e.g. shutting off appliances you forgot to turn-off. and then not being able to power-on (hence failsafe) until you are local to the device again.
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[tantek] only applies in use-cases where absence of the service / device-functionality is less harmful than it possibly "staying on" unattended
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[tantek] e.g. turning off an oven, range, other heat generation device(s)
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[tantek] or turning off any water pumping/flowing devices (for the same reason, though likely only applies to climates where pipes don't reach freezing temperatures)
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[snarfed] hey jamietanna did you know that Meetup API access requires a Pro subscription?
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[tantek] wow
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[snarfed] pricing is $30/mo per group, but i can't tell what that means if you have no groups. maybe free? seems unlikely but maybe possible
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jamietanna[m] snarfed yeah I've just got an email about that... Pretty naff! I've luckily already got two clients registered - one for Brid.gy and one for an app I'm no longer using, so I can re-work the second one for OAuth-dropins?
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[snarfed] hmm! did you get them before that requirement?
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[snarfed] we can do that, but it's not ideal. i don't have a better idea right now though 😐
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[snarfed] I've asked them about the no groups pricing
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jamietanna[m] Yeah I'm lucky as I did them quite a few months ago, it's silently happened and they've not updated all their docs
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jamietanna[m] I'll tweet at them to complain
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[snarfed] min Meetup Pro pricing is for one group, ie $30-35/mo
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[tantek] I'm expecting aaronpk to launch a competitor at this point 🙂
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jamietanna[m] I've seen some good alternatives (bookmarked a few at https://www.jvt.me/tags/meetup.com) but the community haven't yet moved / don't want to move yet
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GWG Evening
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[snarfed] jamietanna, granary PR looks good! ready for me to merge?
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jamietanna[m] snarfed If you're happy with it, please go for it 🙌
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jamietanna[m] I've just started on the Brid.gy PR https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/pull/906
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Loqi [jamietanna] #906 WIP: Meetup.com
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@hacdias Here's how to enable #indieauth on your own website! It's a really interesting authorization method I've never heard about before searching about the #indieweb!! https://hacdias.com/2019/12/30/09/using-indieauth/ (twitter.com/_/status/1211797283525812224)