#dev 2020-01-09

2020-01-09 UTC
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@jeremyfelt Webmentions are so freaking cool and I've only dipped a toe in (twitter.com/_/status/1215070864229617664)
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aaronpk I think Siri is telling me to eat https://media.aaronpk.com/2020/01/file-20200108171146-4410.jpg
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mblaney hi jgmac1106
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Loqi mblaney: jgmac1106 left you a message 10 hours, 3 minutes ago: love to schedule a call to see how we could use and test ihazawebsite this coming semester
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mblaney sounds good, you've got my contact details yeah?
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[tantek] snarfed++ thanks for the prompt fix, filed issue for tracking other possible terms/phrases: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/908
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Loqi snarfed has 50 karma in this channel over the last year (90 in all channels)
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Loqi [tantek] #908 Bridgy source should rename blacklist and similar offensive terms
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aaronpk This is a good tool: https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=blacklist+user%3Aindieweb&type=Code
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aaronpk Mostly wiki and chat results tho
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[Rose] Can anyone recommend a tool for converting an airport code into a timezone? I think I'll need to connect multiple things together to achieve this.
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[Rose] What is Atlas?
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Loqi Atlas is a set of APIs for looking up information about locations, including a timezone lookup, finding the name of a city given a latitude/longitude, finding the current weather at a location, and generating static maps https://indieweb.org/Atlas
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[Rose] I knew one part existed!
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[jeremycherfas] I wonder whether FlightAware might be able to do this? I started playing with it yesterday and it seems to know the time zone of each airport, so maybe it exposes that somewhere.
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aaronpk [Rose]: i'm pretty sure i have a file i found somewhere which lists all airport codes and their timezones
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aaronpk oh look https://atlas.p3k.io/api/timezone?airport=PDX
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aaronpk ah that file it's using just has coordinates of the airports, then atlas looks up the timezone of the coordinates
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aaronpk the data is from http://ourairports.com/data/
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[Rose] Wonderful, thanks!
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aaronpk swentel: do you have a suggestion for how dries could get e-content on his site? it looks like cssgrid is conflicting with it
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[Rose] I've been asked to add TripIt integration to my bookings app, this requires a lot of work with timezones, but I think it will be pretty handy for my ownyourtripit project too
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aaronpk neat
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aaronpk timezones are fun :)
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[Rose] I'm a little daunted by the scope of this. But fortunately(?), the way the current data is structured requires a new DB anyway to add pretty much all the other features I need (such as OAuth!), so I get to basically "do over"
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[Rose] Maybe it doesn't quite _require_ it, but it will certainly be easier in a relational DB
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swentel ugh, got disconnected
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aaronpk 👋
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@aaronpk ↩️ This is actually a very good description of the benefit of IndieAuth's use of URLs as client IDs. https://www.w3.org/TR/indieauth/#client-identifier Every app is identified by its URL, so you can build trust that way across providers. (twitter.com/_/status/1215272819992350721)
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@tauphipi ↩️ webmentions...that might certainly help transition folk away from these large platforms. I don't know enough about IPFS or DAT to know if it's feasible. (twitter.com/_/status/1215275800146206721)
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GWG [Rose], aaronpk: I use the same data file for my location stuff and support lookup by airport
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@soMelanieSaid ↩️ Huh, that’s annoying. Interestingly, camelCasing broke Webmentions via Bridgy, so might be worth also checking if connected services are healthy (twitter.com/_/status/1215315001843433473)
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[tantek] Does anyone do indie monitoring of their indoor pollution / particular levels (ala Air Purple but with indoor sensors) ? Here's why: https://www.vox.com/2020/1/8/21051869/indoor-air-pollution-student-achievement
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aaronpk I hooked up a prototype recently! Need to figure out a permanent solution for it
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jamietanna[m] snarfed: Hacking the `features` manually seemed to work, so now I'm onto the next problem. There's no ability to link to my website from Meetup.com! So there's no `rel=me` link possible (although you can use i.e. Twitter)
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@jeremyfelt ↩️ The rabbit hole is deep and beautiful! https://indieweb.org/Webmention See the back-and-forth between Steve and me as an example: https://jeremyfelt.com/2020/01/06/now-supporting-webmention/ (twitter.com/_/status/1215341288112844800)
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jamietanna[m] `sources = source_cls.query().filter(source_cls.domains == domain).fetch(100) not sure how this works, given there's nothing in the database entry for `kind=Meetup` that contains my domain?
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jamietanna[m] (from `publish.py`) ☝️
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jamietanna[m] I managed to get a link back to my domain via the tumblr social link, but as above it ain't working
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swentel so, I wonder, when you receive a webmention, I now go and parse the the source and then find out for instance that it's a reply. I think it all cases it's always because of microformats, but are there other examples of markup that could work too?
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[snarfed] jamietanna hmm! good point. that's a new one.
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[snarfed] domain in solo profile isn't really necessary for interactive publish, but it is right now for automated publish, since the webmention trigger doesn't include the specific silo account
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[snarfed] target is just brid.gy/publish/[silo]
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[snarfed] do Meetup profiles have a description or bio or other plain text field that would be appropriate? we also pull web sites out of those for Twitter and other silos
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jamietanna[m] So you think I should try just sending a webmention manually and it may work, instead of doing the preview?
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jamietanna[m] Yeah they have a text field, and you can use the tumblr field to put a url to your site, although it's not ideal
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[snarfed] right. telling people to use the tumblr field is kinda confusing and poor UX, so I'm reluctant to use that, but the text field could work
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[tantek] depends, is the Tumblr field auto-linked and clickable?
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[tantek] we should consider the UX of the result of what we tell people
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[snarfed] jamietanna oh and no, webmention trigger will require domain (web site) even more than interactive
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Loqi I agree
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jamietanna[m] Sounds good. I've managed to remove the `.filter(...)` and that (and maybe some other tweaks) made it work up until it verifies the link to Brid.gy
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[snarfed] :trollface:
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jamietanna[m] I'll push a change to the site to get it the link to `localhost` temporarily
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jamietanna[m] tantek: let me just get you a photo 1 sec
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[snarfed] ah yeah and we need to keep that filter anyway, it's how we figure out which silo account to publish to 😎
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jamietanna[m] That's fair, it just helped me validate the rest of the stuff! So now I'm failing with `missing an in-reply-to` although there is one? https://php.microformats.io/?url=https://www.jvt.me/mf2/2020/01/kkdvk/
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[snarfed] hmm true. maybe it's looking for meetup.com, without www?
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jamietanna[m] https://media.jvt.me/aifmn.png is what it looks like when a Tumblr link
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[snarfed] oh also just fyi i never got the API key email. which addr did you send to?
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jamietanna[m] Oh weird - the one you said to, `"public" <public@ryanb.org>`
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[snarfed] huh ok, odd indeed
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jamietanna[m] I can try resending, or send i.e. on Twitter DM?
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jamietanna[m] Ah so there's not an `inReplyTo` in the ActivityStreams object, so may be something I need to tweak in Granary
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jamietanna[m] Could it not be picking it up because I've got a child `h-event` in there?
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[snarfed] hmm, maybe?
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[snarfed] might be easiest to debug granary's microformats2. object_to_activity() in the python shell interactively, it similar
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[snarfed] (something like that. sorry, on phone right now)
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jamietanna[m] Yeah doing that has definitely proved that `json_to_object` doesn't parse it correctly
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jamietanna[m] It also seems to fail to parse the `h-entry` from https://php.microformats.io/?url=https://calumryan.com/note/3345
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Loqi [Calum Ryan] Attending IndieWebCamp London 2020 yes to https://2020.indieweb.org/london
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jamietanna[m] Hmm, it does parse it, but it parses it into the `$.object.url` does that sound correct, Snarfed? My understanding of ActivityStreams is poor!
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jamietanna[m] That's how the existing parser works though, so likely an error in how I implemented the Granary code
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[snarfed] hrm, this is all mf2 -> AS1, ie unrelated to Meetup code at all
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[snarfed] i may need to be at a computer later to be able to help more
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jamietanna[m] Correct - but it looks like when I implemented the Meetup glue code in Granary, I got it wrong
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jamietanna[m] I was looking for `$.inReplyTo`, not `$.object.url` for the RSVP `in-reply-to`
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[snarfed] ohh got it! yes, that sounds likely. feel free to compare to other silos' create methods
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jamietanna[m] Think I've got that bit now, it's now trying to create the request, and I've got something else wrong - just digging into it now
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jamietanna[m] snarfed OK, so within Granary I've assumed that the `actor` is going to be the actual user on Meetup.com, but in Bridgy's case, it's my profile URL - I'm guessing I should refactor to use the URL as the actor?
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jamietanna[m] That's apparently worked 😱
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jamietanna[m] Yep that's worked 🙌
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jamietanna[m] I'll raise a PR shortly for the Granary changes
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@thetrevorharmon ↩️ Haha yeah, I got mine from @kentcdodds, but I feel the same way. I would love to add webmention support like @mxbck, but just haven't gotten that far yet. https://mxb.dev/blog/using-webmentions-on-static-sites/ (twitter.com/_/status/1215392752566845441)
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jamietanna[m] snarfed: Granary fixes here https://github.com/snarfed/granary/pull/181 which then mean my existing Brid.gy PR works with no tweaks!
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Loqi [jamietanna] #181 Fix: Meetup library defects
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jamietanna[m] (this still does it via Tumblr - unless that's something fairly straightforward we can resolve?)
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@thetrevorharmon @kmelve Just came across your post about Gatsby + Webmentions and am pumped to get it working on my site! Thank you for writing this! https://www.knutmelvaer.no/blog/2019/06/getting-started-with-webmentions-in-gatsby/ (twitter.com/_/status/1215395831840301056)
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[snarfed] nice work, jamietanna! will look tonight
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jamietanna[m] Awesome, thanks!
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jamietanna[m] Did you want me to try resending the API key for Meetup?
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[snarfed] please do!
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[snarfed] if it still doesn't work, we can try Twitter DM or whatever
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jamietanna[m] Also what is the likelihood that you think we'll be able to put it live this weekend?
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jamietanna[m] Cool, will do
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[snarfed] and yeah, you'll probably also want to extract web sites from the text field. see examples in other sold, eg Twitter. there's a helper utility fn in util
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jamietanna[m] Would that be withing Granary or Bridgy?
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jamietanna[m] I'm guessing Granary?
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[snarfed] granary, user_to_actor()
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[snarfed] i think
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jamietanna[m] Yeah I see it now, thanks!
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[snarfed] weekend may be possible. I'm on a ski trip today through Sun so I'll only have bits of time at a computer in the evenings, if any, so may be sometime next week
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jamietanna[m] Okey dokey!
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@JamieTanna With the help of http://snarfed.org I've now got http://brid.gy running locally and syndicating RSVPs from my website to http://Meetup.com - hopefully it'll be live next week for the rest of the #IndieWeb to enjoy… https://www.jvt.me/mf2/2020/01/mdlpt/ (twitter.com/_/status/1215407887826259968)
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