#dev 2020-02-26

2020-02-26 UTC
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@botach Hot New Product: Boker 02MS112 MAC Coltellerie Microsub PT Fixed Blade Knife https://ift.tt/2VmPveA https://t.co/WhR2sjHwa6 (twitter.com/_/status/1232465125614874624)
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hs0ucy pwdhttp://searx.me/mysql
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hs0ucy cd ..
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hs0ucy ls -la
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hs0ucy cd TionisDiscord[m]
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hs0ucy emacs
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hs0ucy cd TionisDiscord[m]
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hs0ucy pwdhttp://searx.me/mysql
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hs0ucy pwdhttp://searx.me/mysql
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hs0ucy mysqlgrep
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hs0ucy mysql_
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hs0ucy cd ..
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hs0ucy ls
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hs0ucy cd puaka
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hs0ucy ls -la
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hs0ucy emacs index.p
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aaronpk hs0ucy: What's going on?
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hs0ucy ah fudge!
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hs0ucy sorry
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hs0ucy broadcast mode from terminator!
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aaronpk yikes
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hs0ucy very very sorry :S
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Ruxton hahaha
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Loqi ahahahaha
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Ruxton lucky you didnt type a password :P
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hs0ucy Ruxton: Yes, I double checked :)
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Ruxton cool feature that I ddn't know existed too ;P
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@bmann Webmentions really shines when you can share a blog post here, have people reply here, but the tweets get sucked into the original blog post. I run my own webmentions server which embeds mentions, the Twitter connection is run by @schnarfed’s http://Brid.gy (twitter.com/_/status/1232517187765702657)
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@bmann Webmentions really shines when you can share a blog post here, have people reply here, but the tweets get sucked into the original blog post. I run my own webmentions server which embeds mentions, the Twitter connection is run by @schnarfed’s http://Brid.gy (twitter.com/_/status/1232517187765702657)
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[tantek] aaronpk, maybe microsub -Coltellerie?
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ I'm enamored of @aaronpk's Monocle reader. I subscribe to almost anything, read it w/o interfering algorithms, & reply to posts directly in the reader, which uses Micropub to post those to my site that sends Webmentions to those sites in turn. [more] https://boffosocko.com/2020/02/25/55768083/ (twitter.com/_/status/1232556693797535744)
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GWG I am working on a bookmark/citation UI so I might be able to own my bookmarks
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GWG Trying to figure out the starting properties
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GWG URL, summary, categories, author...
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[KevinMarks] if you want some historic work to look at, theres http://microformats.org/wiki/xfolk (which predates the full microformats process)
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Loqi xFolk RC1
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GWG [KevinMarks]: I will start with a few and see what happens.
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GWG The difference I am working through is that a bookmark post is going to be different, even though I will likely store the rich content inside this new structure
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GWG A bookmark post is for sharing, these citations are more a private matter
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Zegnat Really only one way to find out what you need for yourself, and that is to start using what you have :)
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@kisik21 OK so #KittyboxCompanion got #IndieAuth support on Android (twitter.com/_/status/1232665979945127936)
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GWG Zegnat: I do more than I present
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@brettkosinski ↩️ For book start/finish posts I’m using IndieBookClub. For reviews, I’m just posting to my blog. Hopefully http://Brid.gy supports Goodreads syndication soon (and if not I’ll write that code myself)! Ravelry support would be amazing! #indieweb (https://b-ark.ca/wQcI2U) (twitter.com/_/status/1232715451165224961)
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[jgmac1106] As a callback to discussion from main channel, granted it is native comments but look at identity choices for leaving comments. Wonder if there are webmention equals
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@frankm I don’t understand how to enable replies/webmentions on my http://micro.blog. https://frankmcpherson.blog (twitter.com/_/status/1232746453224820737)
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aaronpk i really need an "import event" option in Quill and Meetable
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aaronpk i have too many places i need to post the same event now
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GWG aaronpk: Have you considered cloning yourself?
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aaronpk i suppose that would be another solution
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GWG aaronpk: It's the ultimate solution to SPOA
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GWG Either way, I sympathize
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[jgmac1106] ...don't stop there....keep going until Quill can act as a micropub migration tool
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GWG aaronpk: Would PRs help?
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@CharlieRoseMari Has anyone automated syncing their blogroll/following list with their microsub server? Maintaining both at the same time seems like a DRY violation, as well as bad UX. (twitter.com/_/status/1232764063719010305)
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jacky lol
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jacky also yeah re: PR
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jacky like if you had a 'description' of what the feature set for that would look like
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sknebel Since it was requested a few times, found time today to write up a request flow example for AutoAuth:
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sknebel https://github.com/sknebel/AutoAuth/issues/19
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Loqi [fluffy-critter] #19 Provide a full HTTP request/response transaction example
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aaronpk yea see that's the hard part. the code is easy.
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aaronpk sknebel++
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Loqi sknebel has 18 karma in this channel over the last year (55 in all channels)
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jacky ;) indeed
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jacky ayeeeee
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jacky let's go
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jacky <computer-typing-fast.GIF>
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jacky sknebel++
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Loqi sknebel has 19 karma in this channel over the last year (56 in all channels)
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jacky this is going to make 2020 indieweb interesting :)
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GWG How so?
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jacky with autoauth, doing protected posts is a _little_ easier (in my head)
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jacky like I had an idea for an impl that just allowed people in my addressbook in koype to view stuff
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jacky I want more granuality than that but this gives it a good start
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GWG jacky: I have a lot to do before getting there.
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jacky random: if I was showing a feed of recevied webmentions, would that be something like a h-feed with h-cite's in them?
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jacky :thinking:
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jacky I think it'd be just parsing the 'source' of the webmention as it came in
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jacky what is h-cite
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Loqi h-cite is the microformats2 vocabulary for marking up citations and references on web sites https://indieweb.org/h-cite
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jacky hmm yeah that's an overload
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jacky nvm then
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KartikPrabhu jacky: would someone else consume the feed of webmentions received by you?
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jacky no (I see where that's going to) but I'd want to use it in a reader to represent my 'notifications'
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jacky there's also another use-case I want - to read said webmentions for another site from a reader
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KartikPrabhu aah! so you wold consume it but in a third-party reader
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jacky example is me changing https://black.af to be more IndieWeb and reading its feed of incoming mentions
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jacky KartikPrabhu: precisely!
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KartikPrabhu i suppose that is a good use-case
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jacky it's a bit of overkill in a way but I want to also make all of my h-apps be able to receive mentions (only on the homepage) so I can then see when people mention them
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gRegorLove jacky, I do that: https://gregorlove.com/responses/ subscribed in Monocle under Notifications
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gRegorLove h-cite is correct
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jacky ooooh nice!
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@malcolmblaney ↩️ @CharlieRoseMari Yeah! I created a follow list at https://unicyclic.com/indieweb/directory that you can subscribe to. I use it with my microsub server. (twitter.com/_/status/1232789814342111234)
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sknebel Anyone happen to know if there's a "standard" way of using Oauth2 for git authentication? aaronpk ?
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aaronpk like instead of ssh?
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jacky sknebel: we _kinda_ do this by using only a token in place of the password
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jacky something like `git://git:$TOKEN@git.host:repo/path/in/question.git`
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aaronpk yeah oauth would be the process to get that token
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jacky this is backed by https://git-scm.com/docs/git-credential (for some plumbing details)
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jacky 'backed'
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jacky what is read
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Loqi To read or reading is the act of viewing and interpreting posts or other documents; on the IndieWeb, a read post expresses that something has been read, like a book or section thereof https://indieweb.org/read
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jacky wonders if only the second half is necessary tbh
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jacky what is a read post
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Loqi To read or reading is the act of viewing and interpreting posts or other documents; on the IndieWeb, a read post expresses that something has been read, like a book or section thereof https://indieweb.org/read_post
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jacky yeah imo only the second half
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[jgmac1106] except people now doing stuff about wanting to read, or in progress of reading
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[jgmac1106] which makes prununciation a pain bc English a PITA is it a to read post or i have read post....and which do yous say /ri:d/ or /red/
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jacky fair - that granuality is needed (and I think it's handled by the `p-read-status` of a book - which, I think, should be arbitrary unlike `p-rsvp`)
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sknebel aaronpk jacky: sorry, wasn't clear, I was thinking for the HTTPS transport
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sknebel where afaik Basic Auth is the most common
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jacky OH
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sknebel but you could do HTTP Authorization header with a token too
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sknebel and was curious if I had missed something
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jacky hm
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jacky I mean there's all of these options https://git-scm.com/docs/git-remote-helpers
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jacky but that's like consuming side
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aaronpk Yea GitHub does that now
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aaronpk pretty sure they completely dropped basic auth a while ago
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sknebel for their apps?
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aaronpk for anything that uses git via https
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sknebel ah, if you have 2FA active, but they put it in the basic auth: https://help.github.com/en/github/authenticating-to-github/creating-a-personal-access-token-for-the-command-line
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aaronpk ah i didn't realize it was connected to 2fa
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aaronpk or enterprise SSO
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aaronpk that makes sense tho
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sknebel yeah. wonder if app-requested tokens work too if they have the right scope, or if apps need to use the API to access repos
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aaronpk pretty sure they use http basic auth to pass the token because of how much existing tooling there is that assumes that
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sknebel yes, makes sense
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sknebel I saw https://isomorphic-git.org/docs/en/quickstart.html earlier, which is a JS git library that also works client-side, which made me a) wonder about how to give a random webapp git credentials in a safer way and b) if indieauth makes sense for git in any way
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ Using the Webmention and the Semantic Linkbacks plugins you can post events to your #WordPress site and others can RSVP from their sites to notify you. Here's an example of it working on my site: https://boffosocko.com/2017/11/30/virtual-homebrew-website-club-meetup-on-december-13-2017/#comments https://boffosocko.com/2020/02/21/55767873/ (twitter.com/_/status/1232811377359605761)
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jacky oh that'd be kinda cool
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