#dev 2020-06-02
2020-06-02 UTC
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[LewisCowles] [tantek] by supplying a report-uri you can gain visibility
# [LewisCowles] You could also look into the console in-browser as every visiting client would be told
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# [LewisCowles] can archive.org show what was there so you can link to pastebin of before change and after, with some text summarising?
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@call_user_func [New]sgkirby/sendmentions Send webmentions and pingbacks to URLs in content https://github.com/sebastiangreger/kirby3-sendmentions (twitter.com/_/status/1267752870847234049)
# [LewisCowles] 😞 need someone that saved one as a fixture or unmodified to make a fair comparison probably need several.
# [LewisCowles] They are trash though. Banned my new shiny lurking account within 15 minutes
# [LewisCowles] apparently following left-leaning people is "automated activity"
# [LewisCowles] and only providing more data to the corp will prove I'm human enough to continue
# [LewisCowles] I've added it to the Wiki as a pattern. It's about as trustworthy and reliable as asking for someone's credit card details to prove they are over 18 and whoever was involved in coding it should be ashamed of themselves
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@garius Agreed. The theory is SUPER important. But so's learning how to navigate the compromises that come with real-world development. Something I've suggested before is they let ME set an exercise. I'd then be the shittiest client ever. So run a Kobayashi Maru for dev students! https://twitter.com/DrMattJakeman/status/1267749638163107841 (twitter.com/_/status/1267750682418991110)
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[jgmac1106] maybe I should give Kirby another spin...I have the licenses...I got close to my 2020 goal, have webementions on my site...but so far from having any publishing ability
# [jgmac1106] weird year ate up much of my learning time.....Kirby was really close to what I want to eventually get to, and if native webmentions don't work I can use Fluffy's stuff
# [jgmac1106] or the eleventy route see so many people go that way...guess that is my decision continue with rolling a 40% working site by myself, Kirby, or maybe SSG and eleventy
# [jgmac1106] can you screenshot?
# [jgmac1106] nvm
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[KevinMarks] there is a kind of repudiation too I think, where you can remove a post from your cache explicitly
# @call_user_func [New]sgkirby/commentions A versatile comment system and integrated Webmention endpoint for Kirby 3. https://github.com/sebastiangreger/kirby3-commentions (twitter.com/_/status/1267785570073231360)
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@sebastiangreger Comments/#webmentions plugin Commentions for @getkirby finally reached v1.0: more versatile, better UIs/APIs, same focus on data ethics and privacy; huge thx @fabianmichael for joining the effort! https://sebastiangreger.net/2020/06/commentions-comments-and-data-ethics (twitter.com/_/status/1267791648186142729)
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petermolnar I'm looking at ancient versions of my website; <meta name="CONTACT" content="one-of-my-long-dead-email-addresses">
# petermolnar https://www.metatags.org/all-meta-tags-overview/meta-name-contact/ - "The meta tag Contact is not used anymore." - Why?
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# [jgmac1106] [prtksxna] did you know we put in proposals at WMF all hands 2 years ago to add indieauth and webmentions? I think they are on the gift calendar
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# [jgmac1106] and I am on the advisory board of GOIF [Sadik_Shahadu] will have very exciting news soon, we need to connect as they want to help do design testing in lofi situations
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[prtksxna] I saw [Sadik_Shahadu] here, and then on the Wikibase channel and was like is this the same person 😄
# [prtksxna] [jgmac1106] You did? 😮 To add those to MediaWiki?
# [jgmac1106] yeah, one sec
# [jgmac1106] What is challenge?
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Loqi challenge is an event-like post which serves as a (typically open) invitation for people to post achievements towards some goal, like running a total distance, or posting photos at some frequency (every day), supported by silos like Strava and micro.blog https://indieweb.org/challenge
# [prtksxna] Neat! I know https://samwilson.id.au/ used to run their blog on MediaWiki. Had a neat set of extensions they had built to be able to do so
# [prtksxna] [Sadik_Shahadu] 👋👋
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# [Sadik_Shahadu] Glad to meet you here too [prtksxna]
# [jgmac1106] can't lie switched to dokuwiki found the admin tax on wikimedia just too high
# [jgmac1106] switchign to chat
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# [KevinMarks] benward's legacy is gone?
# [KevinMarks] Ben Ward built lots of the indieweb- and web-friendly bits of twitter
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# [KevinMarks] to be fair, rabble and blaine built the OG twitter which had XFN and feeds and other api integrations. The api-first model lasted a bit after they left
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jacky the software seems similar to that of the one running https://viewer.scuttlebot.io
# [KevinMarks] did you get a URL spec consistent? That was under discussion last time I looked
# [KevinMarks] well, it means we have a way to do rel=me stuff at least
# [Rabble] yep!
# [Rabble] ↩️ Yeah... oh well... gotta change the world again again i guess.
# [KevinMarks] I know @soapdog was working on it
# [Rabble] @hash is an identifier, a feed basically defined by a keypair
# [Rabble] %message is an individual message within a feed
# [Rabble] and &something is a blob
# [Rabble] we don't have strong linking of profiles, which we call #sameas but it's clearly needed, we just keep implementing it then debating it and then not having it rolled out.
# [KevinMarks] looks liek there's still some awkwardness about ssb: vs ssb:///
# [Rabble] the SSB community's right now in a bit of a phase of rethinking things, in particular this project has gotten a lot of interest: https://github.com/cinnamon-bun/earthstar
# [Rabble] awesome, sssb-viewer is pretty old, we’ve got a partially replaced code base in ssb-reader but it doesn’t do the display stuff https://github.com/planetary-social/ssb-reader
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# [snarfed] hey jacky do you have a link or any more context on the "twitter upgrade on Jun 1st"? it may have broken bridgy scraping twitter likes too. https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/949
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# [KevinMarks] What is streaming?
# Loqi streaming is a method of content delivery where the user can start viewing or listening to media without downloading the entire file in advance https://indieweb.org/streaming
# [KevinMarks] streaming << a private lived stream to s3 https://netninja.com/2020/05/31/intelligent-live-video-streaming-for-protesting/
# Loqi ok, I added "a private lived stream to s3 https://netninja.com/2020/05/31/intelligent-live-video-streaming-for-protesting/" to the "See Also" section of /streaming https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=70181&oldid=70147
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