#dev 2020-07-25

2020-07-25 UTC
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[tantek] I think using WebSub as part of friends-only post publishing / distribution / notification is still being figured out (whether it can even work with the existing protocol) so definitely feel free to experiment and modify things if it seems necessary
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Summer[m] Is there a Node.js module for post type discovery? https://indieweb.org/post-type-discovery#Algorithm
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jacky what is nodejs
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Loqi Node.js is a platform for running javascript applications and runs on all modern operating systems https://indieweb.org/nodeJS
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jacky hmm
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jacky https://github.com/notenoughneon/mf-obj looks like it might be able to
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jacky but only by a chained response flow https://github.com/notenoughneon/mf-obj#isreply
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jacky it's a pretty light algo to implement if you have a microformats2 parser tbh :)
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Summer[m] Cheers, also found https://www.npmjs.com/package/post-type-discovery which was more recently updated.
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Summer[m] Haha, I'm sure it is. I just don't wanna be bogged down with a monolithic app. If a parser exists, I would rather use it, potentially extend it. 🙂
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jacky oh nice this is lean
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Summer[m] Aw, the spec doesn't list checkin, bookmark or audio ☹️
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jacky I _think_ those are discoverable
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jacky like with the presence of a `checkin`, `bookmark-of` or `audio` properties respectively
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jacky that should be updated to reflect that
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jacky Summer[m]: someone else asked this, definitely helps to up-vote / mention interest
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jacky https://github.com/tantek/post-type-discovery/issues/40
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Loqi [RosemaryOrchard] #40 Check-ins as a specific property
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jacky this is also necessary tho https://github.com/tantek/post-type-discovery/issues/41
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Loqi [aaronpk] #41 what is the process for new post types to get added?
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Summer[m] Yes, I already saw that one, +1'd, and subscribed to the issue.
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Summer[m] And to the other one you pointed to now as well.
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jacky nice
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jacky I need to remind myself to put up my site explaining how it does PTD for those types
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[jeremycherfas] [manton] I can confirm that although Sunlit is apparently confirmed by WithKnown, it does not in fact gain the ability to post to WithKnown.
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sknebel jacky: some thoughts on websub + private content here: https://github.com/sknebel/AutoAuth/issues/8
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Loqi [sknebel] #8 AutoAuth, private feeds and WebSub
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jbove What is beakermentions?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "beakermentions" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "beakermentions is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jbove beakermentions is an application to read and send responses on what you're currently viewing on Beaker Browser, specially designed to be run from an attached pane.
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Loqi ok
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jacky something like that _might_ be better as a subheading of the /Beaker page
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jbove Can I keep as is and link it form the Beaker page?
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jbove *from
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@R2k I wrote this tiny blurb a few years back https://qr.ae/TDJNSn, and just the other day stumbled upon this piece on Webmentions by @ChrisAldrich https://alistapart.com/article/webmentions-enabling-better-communication-on-the-internet/ Can’t wait for the Internet to be better connected. (twitter.com/_/status/1286994486707597312)
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@jackyalcine Note to self: filter out Webmentions that come from my own site to posts. It’s useful to display but not to use in my notifications context. (https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/c650eb1f-8d11-499b-a347-813dc35cc603) (twitter.com/_/status/1287076798279421957)
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@zsbenke ↩️ Van pár plugin, de a magic nagyrészét a http://brid.gy végzi. Keress rá az Indie Webre és a WordPressre. (twitter.com/_/status/1287114951958683655)
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GWG Can someone compare the notes from the Micropub session today to the updates to the extensions and issues pages to see if I missed anything?
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aaronpk looks at the list of things he committed to do
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GWG I committed to a bunch as well
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GWG But we closed off a bunch of issues, or at least we have a path to
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GWG Looking forward to IndieAuth discussions in the same vein
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[schmarty] Aww y'all did me dirty on the rel micropub media for discovering micropub media endpoints discussion
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[schmarty] I feel like the what and the why are pretty clear in here https://indieweb.org/micropub_media_endpoint#Discovery_via_link_rel
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aaronpk how did that link not come up in the discussion?
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[schmarty] I found it via my phone just now searching the wiki for "rel micropub_media" 😂
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aaronpk ah it's not linked from the github issue at all https://github.com/indieweb/micropub-extensions/issues/15
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[schmarty] Bottom line is that a line can be drawn between mp endpoints and media endpoints in practice. They're often separate services and code based
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[schmarty] Code bases
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Loqi [dshanske] #15 Discovery of the Media Endpoint Using Link Rel
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aaronpk moves the wiki discussion to github
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[schmarty] So requiring an mp endpoint to know about the media endpoint is extra config work
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GWG [schmarty]: Sorry. I created the issue to track it. I should have found it then
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aaronpk i didn't even know there was brainstorming on that wiki page https://indieweb.org/micropub_media_endpoint
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aaronpk i'm going to move all these to github issues so the discussions can continue there
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[schmarty] And an mp client is already doing rel discovery so it's not "extra" work to discover the media endpoint the same way
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[schmarty] ty for the move aaronpk
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aaronpk we were working off only the information in the github issue, so these points were never brought up
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[schmarty] Guess I should have done my own homework to come prepared to speak up 🤷‍♂️
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[schmarty] I was not aware it had been GitHub'd and it was long ago that I added the brainstorming
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GWG So, we'll revisit during the next Micropub session someday in future
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GWG It might not be too far, if we all see the benefits of these conversations
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GWG I have a lot I want to do
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GWG Now that we all talked
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[schmarty] Glad it was a productive Pop-Up!!
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aaronpk so there was a bunch of stuff on that media endpoint wiki page that was never brought up today
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aaronpk i'm moving it all into the micropub extensions wiki page or github issues as appropriate
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GWG aaronpk++
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aaronpk welp i ended up doing wiki gardening and spec gardening instead of working on features on my website
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jacky work was done tho!
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aaronpk and successfully moved! https://micropub.spec.indieweb.org/
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[schmarty] aaronpk++ 🎉
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