#dev 2020-09-04

2020-09-04 UTC
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hirusi[m] Would anyone have a clue why my u-photo is not getting parsed? 😭 😭
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hirusi[m] https://indiewebify.me/validate-h-card/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frusingh.com%2F
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[chrisaldrich] It looks like it's there here: https://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frusingh.com
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Loqi Ru Singh
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hirusi[m] Strange cause I don't see it on IndieWeb Webring or IndieWebify.me
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[chrisaldrich] unmung.com picks it up too...
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hirusi[m] It does...
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[chrisaldrich] I would say that sometimes there are bugs in indiewebify.me, but it seems to work for a few other examples at the moment....
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[chrisaldrich] and indiewebify.me even picks it up as the representative h-card
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[chrisaldrich] caching perhaps???
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hirusi[m] I've tried to refresh each one a few times. It just hasn't ever picked it up for me... not now and not a few months ago :(
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[chrisaldrich] And it looks like it's finding your photo for your articles on the next step.
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[chrisaldrich] what is indiewebify.me?
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Loqi Indiewebify.me is a service that checks how indieweb-compatible your site is and reports back its results https://indieweb.org/Indiewebify.me
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hirusi[m] oh it is? that's doubly strange!
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hirusi[m] I have two different files for h-cards on my home page and h-cards anywhere else... the one on an article is a super minimal h-card since it's hidden anyway.
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hirusi[m] it might be that some of these parsers don't like the nesting i've done on the home page h-card
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[chrisaldrich] I don't see any recent issues on the github repo for indiewebify that might indicate issues....
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[chrisaldrich] What is h-card?
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Loqi h-card is the microformats2 vocabulary for marking up people, organizations, and venues on web sites https://indieweb.org/h-card
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hirusi[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/BJLsqRtCheuRZULfEJpkSglv/message.txt >
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hirusi[m] Whereas on home page it's nested 2-3 levels down
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hirusi[m] i.e. in the source HTML
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hirusi[m] Let me try adding a hidden image and see what happens
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hirusi[m] Directly one level down and it works
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hirusi[m] https://indiewebify.me/validate-h-card/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frusingh.com%2F
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hirusi[m] Since it's the same image, I guess I can keep this HTML though I wonder where to open an issue
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[chrisaldrich] you can try here: https://github.com/indieweb/indiewebify-me which linked in the indiewebify.me definition above (for future reference)
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Loqi [indieweb] indiewebify-me: Tools to help you get the best out of your indieweb site
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[chrisaldrich] the other oddity I notice is that indiewebify.me finds an email too and pin13 doesn't
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hirusi[m] Webring also picks it up now
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hirusi[m] I'l file an issue and see where it goes
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[chrisaldrich] hirusi[m]++ for finding an apparent edge case
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Loqi hirusi[m] has 1 karma over the last year
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hirusi[m] Woo, first karma. 🙂
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[chrisaldrich] Wait?! What? You've been building so much stuff over the past several weeks you should have 12 or more by now!
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[chrisaldrich] What is karma?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "karma" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "karma is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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hirusi[m] Haha, I suppose I usually come here asking for help, so... 😜
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hirusi[m] https://github.com/indieweb/indiewebify-me/issues/90 - if anyone would like to follow
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Loqi [hirusi] #90 "Check your homepage h-card" doesn't pick up u-photo unless it's nested directly under the h-card tag
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hirusi[m] I'll open this on webring now as well
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[chrisaldrich] hirusi[m]++ for asking for help
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[chrisaldrich] alright... time to hit the hay... goodnight all.
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hirusi[m] haha! well, good night!
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[Murray] !tell @hirusi[m] have you updated anything on your end? Because when I go to the link you provided for indiewebify.me (https://indiewebify.me/validate-h-card/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frusingh.com%2F) it shows your photo fine 🙂
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hirusi[m] Yes I have. I have "corrected" and added two u-photos, one that is displayed, and a hidden one purely for better parser compatibility :)
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[Murray] cool, congrats on finding a solution 🙂 really loving the design of your website by the way, it looks great!
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hirusi[m] Thank you!! ❤️
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sknebel Wikipedia map tiles update: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/maps-l/2020-August/001729.html " Around mid October the Foundation will end support for the Wikimedia Maps Service API "
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@giuseppegurgone ↩️ I figured so but it'd make for a nice standalone package. Do you use Webmention and is it custom made? (twitter.com/_/status/1301885952042905600)
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aaronpk ugh i really need to speed up my blog post pages
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aaronpk when they have a lot of likes it's taking a couple seconds to load
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aaronpk i must be doing something inside of a loop
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[tantek] what is performance?
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Loqi Performance typically refers to the speed, responsiveness, and initial load of a website https://indieweb.org/performance
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[tantek] aaronpk, will be interested to see which tools & techniques you use to investigate and improve the performance!
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aaronpk fortunately/unfortunately it's all backend performance issues
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[tantek] that's still very useful to understand. I'm in the same boat, I need to speed up my home page and I'm pretty sure it's (nearly) all backend issues too. the biggest frontend cost is photo image size right now (for me)
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GWG Anyone's website set exif data on upload?
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[James_Gallaghe] Just asked [aaronpk]: are there any good open-source IndieWeb projects looking for support? I’m a beginner to open-source but I have a free weekend and working on the IndieWeb seems like a good way to pass the time.
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GWG [James_Gallaghe]: What interests you?
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GWG And what language, for example?
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hirusi[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/KPTWTETLzybWFJTarclBaBex/message.txt >
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hirusi[m] Here's the parsed output: http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frusingh.com%2Fmicro%2Frsvps%2F2020%2F09%2F05%2Fhomebrew-india%2F
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sknebel it might not like that its in a feed - or its currently having problems, since it shouldn't give 500 for a post it doesnt like
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hirusi[m] um... i think i did get my markup wrong...
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[James_Gallaghe] !tell GWG I’m not really sure just yet. I’d just like to see a sampling of the projects out there to which I could contribute. I work best in HTML, CSS, JavaScript, and Python.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG [James_Gallaghe]: There are a lot of people with different projects...hard to advise
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GWG Bridgy, for example, if you like bridging things to microformats and webmentions, is written in Python
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GWG There is a Python microformats parser
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GWG Hmm...
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GWG Sorry, I am a PHP person
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[James_Gallaghe] Interesting. I’ll need to take a look at both!
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[James_Gallaghe] I see a few good issues on the Python microformats parser GitHub. I’ll read through the docs in the morning.
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hirusi[m] still a 500... i guess I'll tackle this later.
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Loqi hirusi[m] has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (3 in all channels)
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[chrisaldrich] hirusi[m]++ for asking for help (Loqi apparently ate the earlier one...)
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[KevinMarks] admin tax << https://twitter.com/mislav/status/1301508711005982726
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/mislav/status/1301508711005982726" to the "See Also" section of /admin_tax https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=72533&oldid=72250
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[LewisCowles] does anyone have a good prefers reduced motion js detector? For no JS a lot of my more active transitions are less annoying (only focus states and one throbbing button).
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[LewisCowles] The thing is that some JS elements type-in. I provide html for non-JS users, but I'm wondering if there is a good way to detect and bypass typing text animations.
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[KevinMarks] https://thenewstack.io/wordpress-co-founder-matt-mullenweg-is-not-a-fan-of-jamstack/
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Loqi [Richard MacManus] Matt Mullenweg, founding developer of WordPress and CEO of Automattic, thinks the currently trendy JAMstack approach to website management — which decouples the frontend from the backend, and doesn’t require web servers — is a backward step for...
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[tw2113] i have my own like/hate relationship with javascript already anyway
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