@witesAuralite is a new social network that's mindful of your attention and respects your privacy. There are no ads, there are no anonymous profiles, and bots are clearly labeled as such. It embraces open-standards such as RSS or webmentions. It's a social net… https://ift.tt/335drXq (twitter.com/_/status/1309818813752500230)
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LoqiIt looks like we don't have a page for "Auralite" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Auralite is ____", a sentence describing the term)
sebbunhoizey, just test / benchmark all implementations, note their differences, choose one and fix the issues it might have (like useful features only available in another one)
[chrisaldrich]I suspect that simply by not amplifying fake news and meanness with algorithmic feeds, Facebook could be nice too, the problem is that wouldn't make money...
aaronpkbut for real, if anyone thinks they can start a new social network backed by VC money and *not* have it turn out like facebook and twitter, that's just delusional at this point
aaronpki'm pretty sure tokens.indieauth.com will actually generate a token with no scope right now, so a client could already use it just for the login flow
ZegnatI am just thinking that if a token endpoint is now also expected to be able to provide profile information, it is even harder to split it up... maybe.
aaronpkthe token endpoint would go verify the authorization code at the authorization endpoint, which would return the full profile information, so it would really just pass that response through
ZegnatSorry for all the off-topic comments, aaronpk. Like I said, first time in a while I am critically reading it rather than looking for specific answers
ZegnatI forget what we said at the popup, were we going to require S256 for IndieAuth? Just wondering because as written I think we allow for everything? And I seem to vaguely recall that we maybe did not wanted to support "plain"
aaronpkmy worry is: 1) i don't want to _limit_ indieauth from using e.g. S512 in the future, and 2) I generally want to avoid adding additional things to the spec beyond OAuth if possible
ZegnatWill leave that to your disgression. I think https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7636#section-7.2 also makes the case very clear, but I know from experience that people will not read that far into the RFC because they will look for implementation details and not the security considerations...
Zegnat"The resulting profile URL MAY be different from what the user initially entered, but MUST be on the same domain." in 5.3.2 and 5.3.3, is that outdated after the introduction of 8.1?
ZegnatI think that might help all client developers a lot. More so than the link we currently have to Redirect Examples, which is only important for a small subset of service developers.
sebbufor now, it's like [i set up dropbox syncing in moon+reader] "i read epubs/pdf/cbz in moon+reader" "i retrieve the positions from dropbox" "i retrieve my reading lists from the sites" "i update my reading lists with the new positions"
[michael_lewis]Re Telepath "right now, the company doesn't really have a plan to make money, and the cost of growing and scaling its moderation before user numbers means it will have high costs up front" - I've seen that so many times now, and do you know what they'll almost certainly end up doing just like everyone else to monetise (and they will have to monetise with all their VC funding)? Advertising. And the consumer will become the product yet
sebbui already support webnovel.com (main source of web/light novels), wlnupdates (good tracker site) and support for novelupdates is incoming (big db)
sebbu(where i get the epub/pdf/cbz is out of scope of the project, but i *could* read tachiyomi's db or myanimelist's history to replicate new reading positions
[michael_lewis]Catching up with the earlier tags/keywords discussion, what I reckon happened is that a lot of people stopped using them because the SEO "experts" said they were a waste of time after Google stopped using them in their rankings, and Google did that because of all the "keyword stuffing" and the like.
[michael_lewis]Anyway, if anyone's got any good ideas for how to help with new personal websites discovery, let me know, because I'm not convinced the current facets (including tags) on Browse Sites works that well. I added the Newest Pages as an alternative discovery mechanism, but again still not convinced that's the best answer either.
sebbu(not a standard of specifying them, but a standard of what to use as tag/keyword, ie a name instead of another synonym, infinitive verb vs past participle, passive form or not, etc...)
@hackernoon "Webmentions: Why I Made the Switch from Comments " by @DailyDevTips1 https://hackernoon.com/webmentions-why-i-made-the-switch-from-comments-jq4a3tbp #webmentions #eleventy (twitter.com/_/status/1309704255050317824)
@DanielTechIT hackernoon: "Webmentions: Why I Made the Switch from Comments " by @DailyDevTips1 https://hackernoon.com/webmentions-why-i-made-the-switch-from-comments-jq4a3tbp #webmentions #eleventy (twitter.com/_/status/1309752883265646592)
@wites Auralite is a new social network that's mindful of your attention and respects your privacy. There are no ads, there are no anonymous profiles, and bots are clearly labeled as such. It embraces open-standards such as RSS or webmentions. It's a social net… https://ift.tt/335drXq (twitter.com/_/status/1309818813752500230)
@nhoizey ↩️ This is fixed, looks like it's the first time I had encoded characters in an URL.
https://nicolas-hoizey.com/links/2020/09/25/t-e-n-%C7%9D-t/#webmentions
I wish there was a simple full featured webmention plugin for @eleven_ty, instead of many of us struggling with multiple implementations… (twitter.com/_/status/1309862749023993857)
[chrisaldrich] What is Auralite?
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Auralite" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Auralite is ____", a sentence describing the term)
Zegnat [chrisaldrich]: https://www.protocol.com/telepath-social-network
aaronpk Zegnat [schmarty] [manton] GWG et al: https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth/issues/58
[schmarty] zegnat++ aaronpk++ !
[snarfed] sebbu sounds like https://granary.io/