#dev 2021-01-20

2021-01-20 UTC
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GWG I need to talk out a micropub issue.
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GWG So, if a post has a photo property, per post type discovery, I set it as a photo post and render it appropriately.
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GWG The problem is if it is not a photo post but has a photo property, I'm currently not showing the photo.
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GWG Namely, if, in the example of the PTD algorithm, it is an rsvp, repost-of, like-of...etc
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GWG So, this is creating a problem because someone noted they'd like to show the photo on a checkin. My implementation of checkins in PTD is above photo.
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GWG So, do I assume any time someone has a photo property, and it isn't a photo post, it should end up in the content, because without it being a photo post, that is where I'd end up putting it
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GWG But, what is the definition of u-photo? The one in the Microformats wiki is a bit dated
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aaronpk This is why explicit post types are awkward
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aaronpk the way I handle it, if the post has a photo, I show the photo. Doesn't matter if it also has other properties like a Checkin or bookmark
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GWG I was just working as if only photo posts should have an explicit u-photo. Everything else would have the photo linked in the content, because it is not the primary content.
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aaronpk To me, "photos in the content" are a very blog post specific thing
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GWG I'm going to have to think about this a bit in my UI
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aaronpk it's definitely a challenge, and there are also just different preferences
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GWG And I have to shoehorn it into WordPress
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[tantek] Exactly what aaronpk said: "This is why explicit post types are awkward"
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[tantek] GWG, skip the intermediate step of determining post types for the purpose of rendering
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[tantek] e.g. right now you're doing:
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[tantek] (some set of properties -> post type -> rendering rules for that post type
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[tantek] instead:
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[tantek] set of properties -> rendering rules for each property
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[tantek] no explicit post type needed
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[tantek] the only reason you should need explicit post types is to interoperate with legacy protocols that requires explicit post types. that's literally it
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[schmarty] composition++
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Loqi composition has 1 karma over the last year
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@phiilu ↩️ I guess I wanted to create a space for people to ask questions if something was unclear or provide a solution if something is outdated. I probably will get rid of it and put a CTA to discuss it on Twitter. Thanks Kyle. What do you think about webmentions? (twitter.com/_/status/1351821503596273664)
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@achneeee ↩️ hm, muss mich korrigieren, das löst das problem leider nicht. versuche mich zu authentifizieren über https://openid.indieauth.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/1351870499274575873)
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@achneeee ↩️ ok, dann liegt's wohl am openid-indieauth-proxy. danke! (twitter.com/_/status/1351896993258463234)
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[snarfed] hey [Nicolas_Hoizey], i’m trying to understand https://twitter.com/nhoizey/status/1351876166941106176 , do you think it’s a bridgy bug?
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@nhoizey Whoops, @simonhearne noticed `h-entry` and `p-author` in the links pages made http://brid.gy believe that authors had bookmarked their own content! 😅 The one from Simon: https://simonhearne.com/2021/layout-shifts-webfonts/#bookmarks Another from @adactio: https://adactio.com/journal/17379#comment86203 https://nho.io/n/2021/01/20/1/ (twitter.com/_/status/1351876166941106176)
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[Raphael_Luckom] thanks [snarfed]!
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[snarfed] welcome! also https://indieweb.org/push_notification#Brainstorming
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[Raphael_Luckom] hehe I've been here for a bit. I changed my handle from `raphael luckom` to `raph-l` so it would be easier to type
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[snarfed] oh, welcome to your thanks
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[KevinMarks] whitehouse.gov is wordpress generated and has a gmpg profile (but no rel=me)
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GWG [KevinMarks]: Can we get them to install webmentions?
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[KevinMarks] well, we could ask David Recordon nicely
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[schmarty] GWG: i would love to hear your case for adding webmentions to whitehouse.gov at Respectful Responses this weekend 😄
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[KevinMarks] no feed though; they say follow fb or twitter
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gRegorLove !mf2 https://whitehouse.gov
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Kaja https://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwhitehouse.gov
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GWG [schmarty]: Might not be so respectful if they did. That would be a spam target
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[schmarty] GWG: precisely why it is worth talking about!
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[tantek]1 One approach would be to recognize that they do already have a Twitter account and that shows replies etc., so how could that experience be even better if those tweets were hosted on whitehouse.gov?
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[KevinMarks] Hm, I got a lot of rels with unmung
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[KevinMarks] http://www.unmung.com/mf2?url=https%3A%2F%2FWhitehouse.gov&html=&pretty=on
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gRegorLove There's an `hentry` in there too, but nothing else. Python gets that and the rels
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