#dev 2022-01-12

2022-01-12 UTC
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[tantek]
yes, very much so. spoke to Mark about it around when he first published it. wish it had a published and updated date, looks like it got a very recent update
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[tantek]
who was asking / chatting about messaging standards vs web standards? This was an interesting update on the iMessage vs apparently "RCS" tension: https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/apples-imessage-green-bubble-issues-are-an-outdated-problem-and-its-time-to-fix-it/
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[KevinMarks]
That misstates the issue. It is the iOS user's bubbles that turn green. The Android user is grey
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Loqi
the Webmention REC is 5 years old!
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Loqi
Countdown set by [tantek] on 2022-01-07 at 4:06pm PST
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[jacky]
It's blueish now but you can make it any color
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[schmarty]1
What is dunking?
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Loqi
dunking is in social media a particular (ab)use of quote posts, popularized using Twitter's quote tweet feature, to quote a post with a comment intended to at a minimum refute the quoted post, though often to also mock or otherwise denigrate, sometimes in an attempt to appear wittier and garner more reactions (likes and reposts) https://indieweb.org/dunking
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[schmarty]1
dunking << "Dunktags" proposal to correlate responses around a given tweet without boosting it in Twitter's algorithm https://soatok.blog/2022/01/12/dont-dunk-the-gunk/
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Loqi
ok, I added ""Dunktags" proposal to correlate responses around a given tweet without boosting it in Twitter's algorithm https://soatok.blog/2022/01/12/dont-dunk-the-gunk/" to the "See Also" section of /dunking https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=79065&oldid=66437
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cuibonobo
Love the dunktag idea. Would be great as a browser extension or an app on your phone's share sheet that automatically screencaps, archives, and generates a hashtag.
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petermolnar
fyi this is pretty darn impressive: https://github.com/psf/requests-html
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Loqi
[psf] requests-html: Pythonic HTML Parsing for Humansβ„’
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capjamesg[d]
That is impressive.
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capjamesg[d]
Although it hasn't been updated in a while (that's not an issue if it's feature-complete though).
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sknebel
hm, seems mostly like a relatively thin wrapper around puppeteer (i.e. remote controlled chrome)?
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sknebel
some useful bits, sure
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petermolnar
in that case I was mislead, for some reason I thought that's pure python :(
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[tantek]
aaronpk, any special things planned for Webmention's 5th birthday? πŸŽ‚
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GWG
[tantek]: What are you planning?
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[tantek]
at least a post πŸ™‚ was considering some incremental implemntation improvement but I don't know if that'll happen.
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[tantek]
GWG, want to add Webmention's 5th birthday to the agenda for HWC tonight?
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aaronpk
oh is that today?
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[tantek]
do we have party hats?
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[tantek]
maybe we can have aaronpk at HWC as a special guest and do a Webmention AMA
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GWG
[tantek]: I will update the event
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[tantek]
maybe if we ask nicely we might even get snarfed to drop into HWC and give us his perspective on Webemention-as-an-API
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aaronpk
we need a good webmention tagline that i can put on a shirt :)
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GWG
Hmm...
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GWG
Link bait?
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capjamesg[d]
"Webmentions: How else would you send a distributed comment on the web?"
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capjamesg[d]
(snark intended)
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[tantek]
"Do Webmention it"
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capjamesg[d]
"Webmentions: Own your social interactions"
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capjamesg[d]
"Webmentions: Take control over your comments"
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capjamesg[d]
"I can't *believe* it's not a Webmention!"
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GWG
Alice links to Bob
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[tantek]
"Link in my website"
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GWG
Webmentions...like a pingback you actually want
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aaronpk
IndieAuth: My website is my password
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GWG
You got your website in my comment section...
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GWG
Oh, we're doing all protocols?
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capjamesg[d]
Micropub: No, we don't serve alcohol...
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capjamesg[d]
Micropub II: Yes, the Wikipedia Micropub page talks about small pubs. We're the protocol, not the pub.
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[tantek]
Target: mention me. / Source: Hi Target :)
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capjamesg[d]
IndieAuth: Distributed identity without the blockchains.
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capjamesg[d]
Webmentions: If you'll be the source, I'll be your target?
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[tantek]
The only jargon you put on a t-shirt should be the thing the t-shirt is about
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capjamesg[d]
Very true.
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capjamesg[d]
IndieWeb: This shirt is syndicated to my website.
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capjamesg[d]
IndieWeb: This shirt was first a blog post.
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capjamesg[d]
*James exits because he's putting too much thought into these.*
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capjamesg[d]
I like that one best πŸ˜’
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capjamesg[d]
That was supposed to be a πŸ‘Œ emoji. Apologies!
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[chrisaldrich]
I like the IndieAuth tshirt idea, but couldn't find Robert Redford saying the word website.... https://memes.yarn.co/yarn-clip/d4aa882e-7143-4163-869b-458fa1519cbb
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[chrisaldrich]
That blue text ought to be pretty easy to recreate on modified t-shirt tho... #Sneakers
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[chrisaldrich]
Now I'm thinking that I ought to have a Sneakers-like UI for signing in...
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[fluffy]
Today Sneakers would use a deepfake voice instead of piecing together individual words.
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aaronpk
owncast is making progress on activitypub! https://i.imgur.com/hNuSQ0M.png
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[jacky]
oh this nice!
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[jacky]
*that's nice
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[KevinMarks]1
you need Mary McDonnell to trick Stephen Toblowsky into saying it
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