#dev 2022-01-14
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@gtsb_webmention ↩️ Review of DeFi ecosystem will be really helpful. Thanks for the great content! (twitter.com/_/status/1481792031345238018)
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[schmarty]1 Oh no the account name has webmention in it
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[tantek] https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/a-web-for-all/ something we can do better on our own sites than the silos
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# [tantek] that's an interesting distinction capjamesg[d] between /projects and /open_source
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[aciccarello] Is this a #indieweb-meta conversation?
# [aciccarello] cool, just wanted to check before continuing
# [aciccarello] My impression was also that it would be duplicate but I could see where it would be helpful to see what projects want contributions
# [aciccarello] The projects page seems hard to scan outside of the TOC
# [aciccarello] RE: Web for all. I've thought about the unsupported devices problem when trying to open web pages on old computers. I think it's good to call out that not everyone has the option to update browsers.
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capjamesg[d] [tantek] I thought it was an appropriate choice to have two separate pages.
# capjamesg[d] While a page on /projects may be open source, I wanted a hub that could act as the main point of reference for projects looking for / accepting contributions.
# [aciccarello] what is contributing?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "contributing" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "contributing is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# capjamesg[d] As a way for someone like me who wants to contribute to open source a bit more to find out how they can help in the community.
# [aciccarello] what is contribute?
# Loqi Here are a few ways to participate in and contribute to IndieWebCamp, before, during, after, and even if you can't make it: join online live discussion, add your projects to your IndieWeb User Page, help wikify the current / upcoming IndieWebCamp! https://indieweb.org/contribute
# [aciccarello] I'm surprised there's nothing about open source/software contributions on that page
# capjamesg[d] I agree.
# capjamesg[d] contribute << [[Open Source]]
# Loqi ok, I added "[[Open Source]]" to a brand new "See Also" section of /contribute https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=79099&oldid=61846
# [aciccarello] capjamesg, My first impression was that the projects page should have a section for projects looking for contributors but it's already so long as is
# capjamesg[d] Yes. And that's after I pruned it earlier today.
# capjamesg[d] I hope the page will stay updated with only active projects.
# capjamesg[d] I'd be inclined to say that personal website implementations only being used by one person might not be worth showing on the page just yet, or maybe having on a separate page.
# capjamesg[d] That would help bring the focus to projects that have at least a few community implementations which are more likely to have more docs, people to speak to who know the tech, etc.
# [aciccarello] Right, those should probably be on their user page
# capjamesg[d] I didn't make that change because I did not want to do it without asking how people would feel about it.
# [aciccarello] I can see how projects is currently more organized with the lens of "I want to use a project" than "I want to get involved with a project"
# capjamesg[d] Yes. And I wanted to make the open source part explicit.
# capjamesg[d] Someone searching for open source projects to contribute to should be able to do so with minimal effort. It's hard enough to find projects looking for contributions imo.
# [aciccarello] I would be interested to see a [looking for contributions] badge on the projects page
# [aciccarello] Something that stands out enough to see when scanning the page
# [aciccarello] Also, I think it's funny that the projects page is tagged as a stub. "Help by expanding it" 😅
# [aciccarello] Interesting to look at the CMS page. It just has a list of links to project pages rather than a full section for each
# [aciccarello] what is a cms?
# Loqi A content management system (often abbreviated as CMS) is software used to create, enter, edit, update, delete content on websites; some CMSs are used for IndieWeb sites, see the tables on this page for current usage https://indieweb.org/CMS
# [aciccarello] I guess I don't see what the intention of the projects page is currently
# [aciccarello] Maybe there isn't a unified one right now which is part of the problem 😂
# [aciccarello] If I'm looking for a project, I'm probably going to look at the page of what I want the project to do (i.e. CMS or webmentions, etc)
# [tantek] agreed on broadening /contribute to include developers looking to contribute to some OSS
# [tantek] capjamesg[d]++ for helping with the very painful task of pruning / moving projects to /former_projects
# [aciccarello] Is there any way to narrow down the scope of projects? Right now it feels like "any software that would be remotely helpful for an indieweb project"
# capjamesg[d] Happy to help 🙌
# [aciccarello] capjamesg[d]++ Yeah nice work keeping the wiki helpful
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aaronpk i just moved a couple of my old things from /projects to /former_projects
# capjamesg[d] Can Loqi send a reminder when an old page with a lot of content might need a review?
# capjamesg[d] actually, there is a uk government slack bot that does just that.
# aaronpk lots of stuff to find things that need work here https://indieweb.org/Special:SpecialPages
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# [tw2113_Slack_] it’s been an afternoon of ES6 JS for me today
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# [tantek] 8.5 days until the 4th anniversary of the WebSub Recommendation! https://indieweb.org/timeline#January