#dev 2022-01-15
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gRegor capjamesg, merged and deployed your indiewebify.me PR, thanks! I did find another edge case that needs a fix, though probably more than just text update: https://github.com/indieweb/indiewebify-me/issues/87#issuecomment-1013574530
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Loqi [gRegorLove] Reopening because there's still a validation message [here](https://github.com/indieweb/indiewebify-me/blob/04e5c9516ab739e1b8a09c15148c25c56fa01fc8/templates/validate-h-entry.html.php#L35) that directs to add `p-name e-content`.
We should double-...
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@lcptuk Webmention
W3C protocol for notifying a URL when a website links to it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webmention (twitter.com/_/status/1482212655083438088)
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capjamesg[d] I was just thinking about what could be done to build on Microsub.
# capjamesg[d] I was thinking about what details I would have liked to see in the draft spec.
# capjamesg[d] Maybe there has already been a discussion on this but I wondered if there is any way in which reaction state could be dictated in the standard.
# capjamesg[d] Suppose I press Like on an article I have liked. That creates a Micropub request in the background. But, when I refresh the page, there isn't a way for me to track that I have indeed liked the resource.
# capjamesg[d] I can usually remember what I have liked in my reader as I only click that button a few times per day. But, not having a state that tracks submitted likes, etc. is a bit frustrating.
# capjamesg[d] In terms of implementation, there could be an extension of the main jf2 object that tracks any reactions submitted to a Micropub endpoint from the client / server end.
# capjamesg[d] Whether or not that's something other people would desire is something that would need to be discussed though 🙂 just an idea!
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petermolnar https://stitcher.io/blog/twitter-home-made-me-miserable "On average, 51% of tweets in chronological timelines contained an external link, compared to just 18% in the algorithmic timelines" - twitter definitely doesn't like POSSE
# petermolnar twitter--
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[tantek] capjamesg[d] the short answer is that the microsub+micropub client should at least cache the action the user took (like) and display it. The longer answer is that presumable the microsub server is subscribed to all the users posts, including likes, so they should be available to the client to integrate into the display of posts
# [tantek] Yeah both of those need to be in a “how to build” section or something in /social_reader
# capjamesg[d] Indeed!
# capjamesg[d] I hadn’t thought about that.
# capjamesg[d] I suppose a feed could list all my likes, etc. and the feed client could treat it with a special case.
# capjamesg[d] Good idea.
# capjamesg[d] Yes. That’s why I was thinking about how the spec could help. The server could request all social interactions are sent through the server which then appends them to a feed of interactions used to save state.
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# petermolnar "backlinks on POSSEd notes are entirely optional" are they, though? If one implements POSSE, it rarely makes sense not to link back to the canonical imo.
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[snarfed] we've definitely debated this before in the community. a lot of the debate is captured on https://indieweb.org/permashortlink , https://indieweb.org/permashortcitation , etc
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# [KevinMarks]1 There was a UK "news" account which exploited this, by posting other people's headlines, then replying to that tweet with a link to the source, thereby out ranking the original news source in the default feed.
# lagash [KevinMarks]1: source?
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# [KevinMarks]1 Eg they'd tweet “🚨 Breaking: Boris Johnson dances on Prince Philip's grave 🚨” then reply to it with “source: Sky https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-downing-street-apologises-to-the-queen-for-number-10-lockdown-parties-held-on-eve-of-prince-philips-funeral-12515732 ”
# [KevinMarks]1 The 2nd tweet would vanish, the first would show up and get retweeted
# [James_Van_Dyne] capjamesg: I was splitting the tests into packages (to match src) and mocking out the network requests (for some examples that’ll help in one of your PRs) and it seems that your RSS feed has disappeared from blog post head (It’s there on the main page, it seems)
# [James_Van_Dyne] Found a bug, I’ll fix it after I go for a run
# capjamesg[d] Thank you!
# capjamesg[d] Those mock network requests would be very useful indeed.
# capjamesg[d] Do you mean my site is missing the link tag to the RSS feed?
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# [James_Van_Dyne] I may have gotten the pages mixed up. But I didn't see a link to your RSS feed on individual post pages. I'd think it should be there, no?
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