#aaronpkgrr i've learned so much about event sites building Meetable that i'm super annoyed at my own website's handling of events and need to figure out how to fix it
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#[schmarty]aaronpk: like from a plumbing perspective?
#aaronpkfor example my site will always display the start time of an event, which isn't what I want for multi-day events
#aaronpkand that is both a plumbing and UI problem
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#[tantek]aaronpk, I think it's at least reasonable to download / cache the entire upthread reply-context of something (any post) you're liking/bookmarking
#[tantek]use-case: someone upthread deletes a tweet
#aaronpki suppose the first easier step is to just always download the whole thing, regardless of whether i display it
#[tantek]I've definitely had that happen to me before
#[tantek]at least upthread yeah, and regardless of who is in the reply-chain
#[tantek]the downthread tweetstorm detection (and saving) is a different user feature
#[tantek](look for "/" in the last 10 chars of the tweet you're favoriting 😂 )
#[jgmac1106]for manual until it hurts I didn't do too bad. aaronpk would be smart enough to automate it, but I went fro,m source code I think to sublime, and then using weird editing hacks to instert microformats
#[tantek]don't turn on mfa if it means SMS and SMS recovery. that's making yourself more vulnerable
#[tantek]the YouTube Music not-logged in experience is WAY better than the Spotify not-logged-in experience
#[tantek]this makes me actually want to consider using YouTube Music, especially if there was some way to import/export playlists
#[tantek]as in, the ability to share a playlist that someone can play without having to login or install an app is quite compelling
#[tantek]does anyone else create playlists in YT Music and/or import/export them?
#[jgmac1106]agree on weakness of SMS (also in the ZTA memo BTW) but a reduction in the attack vector overall still better
#[jgmac1106]my university actually pulled back from authentication apps and allowed sms again bc of the trouble of support, made me sad
#[tantek]it's not a reduced attack vector overall, it's an INCREASED attack vector as in social engineering a SIM card is *easier* than phishing your email/pw single-factor
#GWGMy employer makes me use a MFA app every 14 days to reauth up everything, and some things every time I log in.
#[KevinMarks]Yes, you create playlists the same way you do in YouTube. You need to be logged in with a Google account but it doesn't need to be a paid one.
#[KevinMarks]The side benefit of a YT music paid account is that it removes ads from YouTube too.
#[KevinMarks]YT music is pretty much YT with the video off (you can turn it on too)
#capjamesg[d]At the moment this isn't access controlled other than requiring a syndication link. That access control will come when I get the indieauth login setup.
#sknebelcapjamesg[d]: typo on front page: " that might be worth visitng."
#capjamesg[d]aaronpk How did you deploy vouch-proxy on the wiki? I find the docs very confusing.
#capjamesg[d]I don't understand what protectedapp.example.com refers to in the nginx example.
#sknebelcapjamesg[d]: I'm quite busy right now so probably in a few weeks or so, but at some point we should talk about how we get OSM maps into that :)
#capjamesg[d]I haven't done a lot with maps so am very new to the world.
#sknebelwould be interesting to try and find the actual OSM objects for the places. and I'm not up to speed on nice ways of embedding such maps in mediawiki
#capjamesg[d]That's a good idea! I don't know how to do that so it will be a good learning opportunity.
#capjamesg[d]Do we have a good "how to sign in with indieauth" tutorial?
#Loqi[Ryan Barrett] Like all of you, I got a little stir crazy over the last year. I made it outside plenty, but I still felt cooped up now and then, and I dearly missed going new places and seeing new things.
On another note, I really, really like breakfast. Like, a lo...
#capjamesg[d](Slight nudge: we should have a "breakfast tour" page on the wiki :D)
#capjamesg[d]I shall need to create a "coffee crawl" one too.
#capjamesg[d](You should be able to sign in with IndieAuth now!)
#[tantek]capjamesg[d]++ amazing! IndieAuth login works! congrats on getting that setup
#Loqicapjamesg[d] has 25 karma in this channel over the last year (68 in all channels)
#GWG[tantek]: Yes, I just rarely do food/dining type posts...I did want to review experiences more
#[tantek]Is this only the second public MediaWiki instance with IndieAuth login?
#[tantek]and in particular with *only* IndieAuth login?
#[tantek]I feel like "how to add" this functionality alone is worth documenting on its own page on the wiki so we can encourage other wikis to do so
#[tantek]capjamesg[d], while it's fresh in mind for you, could you write some notes about the steps you took (and where you got stuck, errors you saw, how you did troubleshooting/fixing) to setup IndieAuth login on breakfastandcoffee?
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#capjamesg[d]There were a few issues. Perhaps due to my inexperience with deploying hosted software but nonetheless important.
#capjamesg[d]Specifically on IndieAuth, the process was pretty easy. I copied the IndieWeb wiki auth extension for Lasso / vouch proxy. The biggest challenge was figuring out how to run the proxy and get the headers right.
#capjamesg[d]I can document what I did to get past those issues.
#capjamesg[d]Does Loqi attribute your wiki changes to Loqi or your wiki account?
#sknebelit mentions the chat name in the message, but edits as Loqi
#rattroupe[d]Snarfed, I was never able to figure out why bridgy didn’t forward Reddit comments. I can’t tell from the docs if it’s designed to do that or not
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#[snarfed]think I might see the problem, I'll try to fix it soon
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#rattroupe[d]I’m a little relieved that there is a problem. I couldn’t tell if it was just me not using bridgy correctly, or if I had the wrong expectations of what it would do
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