#dev 2022-03-18

2022-03-18 UTC
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jacky angelo: this is really good
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jacky like this is what I keep seeing but didn't know how to describe
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[KevinMarks] definitely add the SVG to the wiki
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[tantek] angelo++ definitely add it to /IndieMark#Brainstorming !
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Loqi angelo has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (4 in all channels)
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tracydurnell[d] angelo++ it's looking good! Love the spider
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Loqi angelo has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (5 in all channels)
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tracydurnell[d] I think including the icons is helpful
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tracydurnell[d] Might consider adding some others where appropriate
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tracydurnell[d] Like a search icon
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tracydurnell[d] Maybe a couple silo icons for POSSE? But could also see keeping those off might be nicer 😉
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tracydurnell[d] I like the colors for the different rings, they might stand out more if they were the background color and the type was reversed, but I'm not sure if that would be hard
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[tantek] ooof, this is making it even more clear how much of the IndieMark axes and levels need updating đŸ˜Ŧ
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tracydurnell[d] (if there's a send to back feature it'd be simple but that was one that didn't match adobe shortcuts 😉)
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jacky noticing this in monocle https://imgur.com/a/sfouEK1 I've been changing my h-card quite a bit lol
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[tantek] why does it say "someone" liked?
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jacky I didn't mark up my h-card properly I think
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jacky but over time, as I did, it got more accurate
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jacky okay so aaronpk, I got that error again - this time with indienews
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jacky https://news.indieweb.org/en/webmention, when attempting to submit https://jacky.wtf/2022/3/oo/ooK1B0udp16W9yQp2BHBhyz5 (a different page) returns a 500
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@peeke__ ↩ī¸ Hi Jeremy, my posts actually don't automatically post to Twitter, I don't know if http://webmention.io does such a thing for you. I manually include a syndication link in my articles and a http://webmention.io meta tag in my head. (twitter.com/_/status/1504712529162952704)
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@jeremysarber @peeke__ Regarding https://peeke.nl/implementing-webmentions, I barely know what I'm doing with this IndieWeb stuff. If my site sends webmentions and has a link to https://brid.gy/publish/twitter, why don't posts automatically publish to Twitter? What am I missing? (twitter.com/_/status/1504617523228073986)
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@jeremysarber @peeke__ Regarding https://peeke.nl/implementing-webmentions, I barely know what I'm doing with this IndieWeb stuff. If my site sends webmentions and has a link to https://brid.gy/publish/twitter, why don't posts automatically publish to Twitter? What am I missing? (twitter.com/_/status/1504617523228073986)
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@garrettc (Just testing something, ignore this. No, really, ignore it) https://cf41-82-6-3-137.ngrok.io/blog/2022/03/testing-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/1504747568017952768)
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jacky interesting 'social' video app
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jacky https://along.video/
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jacky blergh, meant to drop that in #-chat
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[tantek] could be on topic too if you like the UX 🙂
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jacky I def do like the approach
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jacky it's obvs very phone centric tho
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[tantek] phone centric is ok, lowering the barrier for mobile creating, editing, posting is a good thing
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jacky this looks like a /collection of /video posts https://along.video/superbryntendo/22doVovR
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[tantek] wondering if it's worth documenting RingMark as a site death (rng.io)
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[tantek] nevermind. rng.io works but www.rng.io was the error I was seeing (clicked on it from somewhere)
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capjamesg[d] Why are random numbers / values so hard to generate on computers?
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capjamesg[d] I just saw a post on HN about the random number generator in Linux and it made me think how exactly do computers generate random numbers.
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jacky something to do with prime numbers, I believe
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jacky I feel like julia evans might have written about this tho
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[tantek] lava lamps
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sknebel the usual OS-level way of doing it nowadays is getting some actual randomness from somewhere (I/O timing, hardware randomness-generators, ...) and then turning that into a lot of random bits by feeding it into an encryption algorithm
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sknebel programming languages/libraries might implement a bunch of other algorithms though
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[snarfed] classic computer science problem
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[tantek] and here I thought it was a physics problem
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jacky takes the quantum computer out of this room
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[snarfed] something something entropy
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[fluffy] Mersenne twister is a pretty good algorithm for doing pseudorandom numbers and I believe true random numbers also take in entropy and use it to seed Mersenne twister.
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[fluffy] The lava lamps themselves are just for show, incidentally; the actual entropy source on lavarand is the low-bit noise from the CCDs recording them.
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sknebel MT is a classic, but not that great. mostly used if you just need fast, not so secure afaik
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jacky what would post type discovery look like for an /issue?
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jacky currently, it's really focused on GitHub so I'm guessing it'd be checking if in-reply-to is a link to a GitHub issue URL?
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[tantek] what's the use-case of identifying it as an issue different from a reply?
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jacky good question; I guess none that immediately come to mind
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jacky before I'd probably want it for filtering out in one's feed
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jacky but now I can just move it to a different one because of channels
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[tantek] you could filter it as you would filter any replies
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[tantek] jacky, since you took a look at IndieMark before and wrote up a good warning, could you take a look at the intro section / How to to see if we can remove that warning or perhaps reword it? https://indieweb.org/IndieMark
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jacky that rephrasing is good!
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[tantek] lots more work to do to improve it per all the feedback, however hoping I've made a decent dent
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[KevinMarks] can the wiki handle a big SVG rather than a png? Angelo's diagram seems like a natural SVG
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angelo [KevinMarks] i tried to upload the SVG but it cried about an embedded SVG (the logo).. i can remove the logo, change web actions to interactivity, flesh that out and replace the PNG with a (logoless) SVG
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[tantek] indeed, we can leave off any logo for Brainstorming
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[tantek] the IndieMark content itself is going to need a lot more work before we have anything close to a "finished" diagram worth putting a logo on to share 🙂
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e-snail ...should I cancel my tattoo appointment?
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[tantek] see also, tattoos of QR codes to expired domains
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