#dev 2022-06-02
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@theprincessxena sqlite> select count(*) from webmentions;
4539
sqlite> select count(*) from webmentions where source_url not like '%twitter%';
831
CREATE TABLE webmentions
( id TEXT UNIQUE NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY
, source_url TEXT NOT NULL
, target_url TEXT NOT NULL
, title TEXT); (twitter.com/_/status/1532154809251512320)
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@schnarfed ↩️ Love it! You may also be interested in:
https://snarfed.org/2021-06-05_bridgy-stats-update-6
https://snarfed.org/1-million-webmentions
https://indiemap.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1532160885942149120)
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@exdeejay_ ↩️ select title, count(*) from webmentions group by id; (twitter.com/_/status/1532178757695455235)
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[snarfed] aaronpk I added a granary endpoint that accepts Instagram HTML: https://github.com/snarfed/granary/commit/e2ab89135f5f7a15897bd9755ce78a918d3c1f8d
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@CrowderSoup I made this #IndieWeb proof-of-concept for my own website using @vercel serverless functions: https://github.com/CrowderSoup/indieweb-proof-of-concept
I built this to explore how I could create WebMention and Micropub endpoints that would create files in the GitHub repo which then become content for the site. (twitter.com/_/status/1532228674727997440)
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[CrowderSoup] I’m really excited about this proof-of-concept
# [CrowderSoup] I think with that I’ve figured out how I’ll use serverless functions as my micropub and webmention endpoints. Putting things in branches also let’s me have a review step for webmentions / posts.
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@Mike_Andreuzza is an open-source project and hosted service for receiving webmentions and pingbacks on behalf of your indieweb site.
https://webmention.io/ (twitter.com/_/status/1532269473138343937)
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# superkuh Try #datahoarders or #hardware.
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[schmarty] CrowderSoup++ very nice!
# [CrowderSoup] Thanks [schmarty]! I'm really excited to start putting it together "for real" 😅
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[tantek] NPM << Criticism: https://mobile.twitter.com/firefart/status/1532091679741825024
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@firefart Want to watch the world burn? Here is a tool to check all NPM package maintainers for unregistered domains to hijack those packages by registering the domain again. NPM security guys are not interested in this data so here you go: https://github.com/firefart/npmdomainchecker (twitter.com/_/status/1532091679741825024)
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism: https://mobile.twitter.com/firefart/status/1532091679741825024" to the "See Also" section of /npm https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=81782&oldid=80167
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# [tantek] next time you're wondering if you should be here: https://xkcd.com/1954/ 🙂
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@OpenMentions Today's updates are minor improvements for the front page. A few bug fixes for some edge cases and a more compact preview of longer #Webmentions. (twitter.com/_/status/1532397740499648514)
# [CrowderSoup] [tantek] I often have to remind myself that I'm good at my job... And I've been doing it for over ten years at this point professionally 😅
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# [CrowderSoup] I have not yet been able to get up the courage to get up on stage and speak to a group of engineers outside of my own job/companies. That still scares me to death 💀
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@holliebutler Fifth test.
Also on:
* http://brid.gy
(https://teaandbook.net/?p=155) (twitter.com/_/status/1532405197225529351)
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# [schmarty] hollie: Loqi (the bot) watches Twitter for keywords like IndieWeb, webmention, bridgy and posts them in the chat
# [schmarty] Who is Loqi?
# Loqi Loqi is a friendly and useful bot/digital therapist present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/User:Loqi.me
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[hollie] Oh! Well....I was planning on blogging (and syndicating) IndieWeb stuff but also spinning, sewing, sailing, things not salient to discussion here. That seems like maybe a problem? I don't want to spam this forum. I'll think about this. Maybe I shouldn't be using brid.gy? There's so much I still don't know about how all this works.
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# [aimee] Any chance I can get admin or maintainer rights on `microformats/microformats-parser` it's difficult to maintain this package without those permissions (I need to change required status checks)
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[KevinMarks] done
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# [aimee] Thank you 😊
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jacky if I had a h-card that was 'indirect' (and by indirect, I mean, its URL doesn't point to the current page but it has some properties associated to it), how should one go about 'resolving' the rest of the information? I figure it'd be some sort of semi-recursive looking up of the URLs pointed at in the h-card and using it to build a composite h-card
# jacky for example, I have https://jacky.wtf/contact that points to https://jacky.wtf/about
# [snarfed] lots of background in https://indieweb.org/h-card#Issues , but I don't remember any existing process for "merging" multiple h-cards from different places
# jacky I see something at https://indieweb.org/h-card#partial_vs_complete (that I've actually added to)
# jacky and there's some stuff at https://microformats.org/wiki/representative-h-card-parsing but this looks like a means of getting the 'truth'
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# [tantek] [hollie]++ excellent & heartfelt post: https://teaandbook.net/nothing-works-on-my-indieweb-site/
# [tantek] LOTS of us who have even have the prior skills of programming, or HTML/CSS, or PHP etc., specifically have either transitioned away from WordPress, or have avoided it altogether for simpler solutions where if you’re going to have to spend time being a "mechanic" at least the time is better spent (and the solutions require a lot less maintenance)
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AramZ-S[m] Yeah, I'm trying to put work into figuring out and documenting how to do more of this stuff with Static Site Generation in general and 11ty in particular.
# AramZ-S[m] It just feels like I end up spending more time doing actual writing on my blog and less time fiddling with the code on SSGs
# AramZ-S[m] Tho some stuff is obviously more of a challenge than others.
# AramZ-S[m] Also, I think a lot about linkrot and I like the idea of a site I can drop onto GitHub pages and know that one day if my domain expires the pages will still be up and public for the life of GitHub, even if on a slightly different domain.
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# [hollie] Oh thank you [tantek]! Okay so I'm curious, as a total newbie....what are these WordPress alternatives? I'm super curious! I'm aware of things like Wix or Squarespace but those aren't the types of sites I would want (and my one foray into WixLand went very poorly). If I were willing to devote some time to learning, is there a better thing that folks here would suggest I learn, or look into?
# [hollie] I'm not saying no to micro.blog (I have one and like it: hollie.micro.blog) but it has some problems for me at the moment. One is that I really want to be able to make my theme look different, and I don't understand how (I'm happy to learn - would that be "learn PHP" still?). Second, I still want to be able to post about my other hobbies and have the ability for other folks from those communities to comment and subscribe. Right now
# AramZ-S[m] I feel like one could do a really interesting POSSE site using an SSG on Glitch.
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[chrisaldrich] I still love my Known install, but I think Hollie would be roughly in the same boat as with WordPress from a learning curve perspective and the community around it isn't as large or active.
# [hollie] I don't think readers of my micro blog can subscribe to get posts by mail, can they? I have a bunch of subscribers at my old WordPress.com hobby blog that I'd like to be able to move, offer them the same easy way to get posts. I don't know how to do that, and it isn't obvious to me how anyone outside the micro blog community can comment on my posts (someone said you can install....ack I can't remember the name - a popular comment
# [chrisaldrich] I played around with Blot.im a few months back and really enjoyed the pared down minimalist ethos of mostly just text, but when it comes to easy out-of-the box flexibility, one still has to have CSS and other general development chops to get it to do "all the things" one might want.
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "subscribe by email" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "subscribe by email is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [chrisaldrich] What is Known?
# Loqi Known is an open publishing / community platform project https://indieweb.org/Known
# [chrisaldrich] What is a newsletter?
# Loqi A newsletter is a regularly scheduled email that is sent out on a specific topic to an email list https://indieweb.org/newsletter
# [chrisaldrich] [hollie] I don't use it much, but I've got a sample Known instance that one can join at http://known.boffosocko.com/account/join if you want to test out some basic pieces of functionality, but I don't think I've turned on or opened up all the things there in terms of some of the syndication plugins, etc.
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@brianleroux indieweb is delightfully chaotic. there are some very well baked specs (like indieauth) and some very grassroots things (like the nascent microformat h-app) … and because its federated you can sort of take it in whatever direction makes sense for *you*. (twitter.com/_/status/1532481969740623872)
# [chrisaldrich] It's been ages since I've played with that server [hollie]. I'll try to look at it later when I'm back at my desk
# [chrisaldrich] Mostly I keep it for folkx to kick the tires a bit. It was also an experiment at crossposting from another site to it as a syndication endpoint.
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# [chrisaldrich] That version is definitely not on the bleeding edge of Known development. 😭
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# [KevinMarks] It reminds me of this http://epeus.blogspot.com/2002/07/jerome-k-jerome-on-coding.html
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# [snarfed] [hollie] I'll second the micro.blog recommendation. Definitely less aimed at tweaking or admin than WordPress or Known, for better or worse. You can choose a new theme, customize one, or make your own though! https://help.micro.blog/t/custom-themes/59 , https://help.micro.blog/t/plug-ins/104
# [snarfed] and it can send posts as email newsletters so your friends can subscribe: https://help.micro.blog/t/email-newsletter-subscriptions/731
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