#dev 2022-06-06
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@brianleroux Heh, https://webmention.rocks turns implementing the webmention spec into a sort of video game.
(I'm fun at parties.) (twitter.com/_/status/1533630787299336192)
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "video game" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "video game is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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CrowderSoup I am (sort of) gamifying my IndieWeb work on my own site by putting all the todo's into Habitica capjamesg, haha
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@leppert In light of @reading's coming sunset, a few kind users convinced me to finally open source (MIT) the code. Everything is showing its age, but then again aren't we all. Have a look: https://github.com/reading-am (twitter.com/_/status/1533833437366345728)
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[KevinMarks] what is reading?
# Loqi To read or reading is the act of viewing and interpreting posts or other documents; on the IndieWeb, a read post expresses that something has been read, like a book or section thereof https://indieweb.org/reading
# [KevinMarks] reading.am << open sourced at https://github.com/reading-am
# Loqi ok, I added "open sourced at https://github.com/reading-am" to the "See Also" section of /Reading.am https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=81819&oldid=81809
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AramZ-S[m] I see what he means about it being somewhat out of date, Ruby and Coffeescript, two things a lot less popular among devs these days
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[Scott_Jack] as in, rock solid and with few dependencies?
# [Scott_Jack] I've dabbled in trying to learn a few languages over the years but I think what I'm missing is process and best practices
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[tantek] scojjac, yes, and I think another long term lesson here is that non-C syntax languages are never going to be dominant, and likely retreat to finding only small community niches. the one exception being Python which is still fighting to hang on. Perl is essentially the COBOL of the web now.
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[schmarty] declining popularity of Coffeescript makes sense, as it overlapped a lot with ES6 syntax features and the need for cross-compilers to use them.
# [schmarty] Ruby (especially Rails, which is the framework for this reading.am repo) seems to be doing just fine. regular improvements, active community.
# [tantek] I mean yeah, it's doing fine in its community niche. this is more the point I was making: https://insights.dice.com/2020/12/03/10-most-popular-programming-languages-on-github/
# CrowderSoup I would say _Rails_ seems to be doing fine, but I rarely see anything written in Ruby that isn't Rails. Python has data science and automation nerds backing it up (I like python for scripting and automating personally). But like [tantek] mentioned, "C-Style" languages are popular because the syntax is familiar and I don't see that changing in the
# CrowderSoup foreseeable future honestly.
# [schmarty] 🐚
# [tantek] whoa even longer term, this is a cool chart: https://octoverse.github.com/#top-languages-over-the-years
# CrowderSoup Oh that is a really cool chart
# [schmarty] lol the chart makes it look like Objective-C died in 2016 😂
# CrowderSoup Looks like Ruby fell the farthest and TypeScript climbed the most
# CrowderSoup To be fair to typescript though, it is _really_ nice
# [schmarty] it's also worth noting that rankings hide a ton of details.
# CrowderSoup I typically reach for Go in my personal projects, but TypeScript is great for building front-ends as a team.
# [snarfed]1 https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ is the other classic one with much more history
# [schmarty] i appreciate that their methodology is right there before the rankings, unlike github's 😂
# [tantek] ah, I see why VB is still up there, the methodology https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programminglanguages_definition/ of using search engine results heavily biases old crap that's been around a long time that has legacy content on the web
# [Scott_Jack] I've done a little JavaScript, TypeScript, and Python so it's kind of nice to see those high on the list. I'm not sure I love that the modern web is so dependent on JavaScript but it doesn't seem to be going anyuwhere
# [Scott_Jack] Just recently was trying to get through a .NET Core course but lost interest and haven't been able to get back into it
# [Scott_Jack] Objective-C made me not want to develop iOS apps
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[aciccarello] I'm curious to see how web assembly is going to affect the JS dominance.
# CrowderSoup I think WASI will be pretty interesting to watch. It could be a new / better JVM.
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ You've got your own site and control your URLs, so you're definitely on it! And you've got Webmentions for additional icing on the cake. Kudos! I'm glad you've managed to get things set up and working for yourself. It definitely helps to… http://stream.boffosocko.com/2022/terriblemia-youve-got-your-own-site-and-control-your-urls (twitter.com/_/status/1533915341352493062)
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